Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

glinda

(14,807 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:44 PM Oct 2014

My father died Sunday night

Last edited Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:49 PM - Edit history (2)

My mother died less than three years ago and my father died Sunday night, just after visiting him. He had suffered for years because of horrors he had seen in WWII and the effect upon the family was profound. And difficult. He battled and won over his chemical demons and not his depression and when my mother passed, he thought about suicide.
I have been putting aside my life for caring for his the last two years and moreover the last five months after he was diagnosed with MDS from chemical exposure from perhaps War or maybe a job he held. (more cases are growing each year) We will never know. A horrible scourge of a disease that is not common and not diagnosed while it morphs your body so that eventually you live like a vampire with blood pacs and tubes. It sneaks up on you. It is terminal if you are older or do not qualify for a bone marrow transplant.
An ambulance took him to two Hospitals twice in the last week and half. He moved care locations four times. He was 87 and his body just finally gave in. Thankfully it was swift....talking Friday, closing eyes and speaking softly Saturday and then Sunday, unable to speak but showing a lot of movement when he heard my voice. Then he passed. It was fast. MDS takes you fast.
But the pain he lived with due to War and to illness was not. It festered.
I am grateful to Veterans so very deeply and sad for what they have had to endure and sorry. Will miss the good parts of him but not the bad.
We need to address our toxins and our Wars people.

134 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
My father died Sunday night (Original Post) glinda Oct 2014 OP
{{{Glinda}}} shenmue Oct 2014 #1
Good thoughts on his passing. dhol82 Oct 2014 #2
So sorry for your loss, Glinda dickthegrouch Oct 2014 #3
So sorry Glinda and RIP Glinda's dad uppityperson Oct 2014 #4
So very sorry to read your sad news. displacedtexan Oct 2014 #5
May good memories bring you peace. You have provided care and love to your parents... Frustratedlady Oct 2014 #6
So sorry for your loss etherealtruth Oct 2014 #7
I'm so sorry. I lost mine 8 years ago and some days it feels like yesterday Warpy Oct 2014 #8
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #104
I am so sorry for your loss Tree-Hugger Oct 2014 #9
So sorry glinda Uben Oct 2014 #10
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #28
Your father, mother, you and the rest of your family are heroes Kaleva Oct 2014 #11
So sorry. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #12
I'm so sorry for your loss. I wish you and your family peace. Triana Oct 2014 #13
I am so sorry. 840high Oct 2014 #14
My sympathies for your loss, glinda. enlightenment Oct 2014 #15
Please accept my condolences for your loss. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #16
So many sacrificed their youth and their old age Generic Other Oct 2014 #17
Condolences. AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #18
It is tough to be a caregiver, and even tougher PatrickforO Oct 2014 #19
I'm so sorry for your loss. QED Oct 2014 #20
Wish you the best, TheVisitor Oct 2014 #21
So sorry, hon. I held my Dad's hand when he breathed his last. CurtEastPoint Oct 2014 #22
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #105
Very sorry to hear this...I'm sure he's now at peace. joeybee12 Oct 2014 #23
I am sorry.... Tikki Oct 2014 #24
(((....))) handmade34 Oct 2014 #25
I am very sorry for your loss Andy823 Oct 2014 #26
So sorry Glinda Marrah_G Oct 2014 #27
I'm so sorry for your loss, glinda. brer cat Oct 2014 #29
I've very saddened to hear this. RKP5637 Oct 2014 #30
Powerful message received, Glinda. Take good care of yourself now. Hortensis Oct 2014 #31
So sorry for Nite Owl Oct 2014 #32
Good memories last forever... DontTreadOnMe Oct 2014 #33
Deepest sympathy malaise Oct 2014 #34
So sorry, Glinda. TDale313 Oct 2014 #35
My dad Omaha Steve Oct 2014 #36
... glinda Oct 2014 #56
Yes. raven mad Oct 2014 #115
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #121
I am so sorry glinda....(((hugs))) nc4bo Oct 2014 #37
I'm so sorry Glinda dflprincess Oct 2014 #38
Healing thoughts your way, glinda. So, so sorry. nt Laffy Kat Oct 2014 #39
My heart goes out to you ... CaptainTruth Oct 2014 #40
So sorry to hear this... snacker Oct 2014 #41
Sorry to hear about your father, glinda. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #42
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #106
Checking in from my own grief storm to express my sincerest condolences LaydeeBug Oct 2014 #43
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #57
Me too, you too, HUGS ALL AROUND! <<<<<<<3>>>>>>>> nt LaydeeBug Oct 2014 #62
(((((((glinda))))))) WillyT Oct 2014 #44
So, so sorry AwakeAtLast Oct 2014 #45
(((glinda))) Crewleader Oct 2014 #46
So very sorry for your loss glinda. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #47
I am sorry for your loss. badtoworse Oct 2014 #48
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #107
so sorry riverwalker Oct 2014 #49
Sorry for your loss, glinda. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #50
I'm so sorry for your loss. bearssoapbox Oct 2014 #51
I am so sorry gopiscrap Oct 2014 #52
I am so sorry. Lifelong Protester Oct 2014 #53
I'm so sorry, glinda… You see the good... MrMickeysMom Oct 2014 #54
So very sorry, losing a parent is extremely difficult. MDS ... slipslidingaway Oct 2014 #55
Something else to think about is Gulf chems and Fracking chems....similar compounds. glinda Oct 2014 #65
Your link is an excellent read. glinda Oct 2014 #66
Agreed, everything you read to begin with says it is disease that strikes older people ... slipslidingaway Oct 2014 #116
Thank you for this great info on MDS. What my glinda Oct 2014 #122
My pleasure, although I am sorry for the reason ... slipslidingaway Oct 2014 #129
Well we don't have any choice now do we? glinda Oct 2014 #131
Yes the list goes on ... slipslidingaway Oct 2014 #132
thanks! glinda Oct 2014 #133
That is all we can do ... slipslidingaway Oct 2014 #134
My condolences to you and your family. n/t oneshooter Oct 2014 #58
My heart goes out to you. peace13 Oct 2014 #59
My condolences Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #60
(((hugs))) and prayers for you, glinda. sueh Oct 2014 #61
{{{glinda}}} Wishing you peace and gentle healing. n/t veness Oct 2014 #63
My condolences KT2000 Oct 2014 #64
He is at peace, and may you find peace. No Vested Interest Oct 2014 #67
I'm so sorry for your loss.. virgdem Oct 2014 #68
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #87
Deepest condolences, Glinda bvf Oct 2014 #69
............. madfloridian Oct 2014 #70
My babylonsister Oct 2014 #71
glinda, I am so sorry for your loss. that generation is gold. i hate to hear each time one goes. roguevalley Oct 2014 #72
Peace to you, glinda. countryjake Oct 2014 #73
Very, very sorry for your loss. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #74
My sincerest condolences A HERETIC I AM Oct 2014 #75
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #88
So sorry for your loss. madamvlb Oct 2014 #76
Peace be with you. anniebelle Oct 2014 #77
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #89
I'm so very sorry, glinda. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #78
sorry for your loss. barbtries Oct 2014 #79
Condolences to you and your family. gademocrat7 Oct 2014 #80
He is at peace at last, Glinda. (hugs) peacebird Oct 2014 #81
Sorry for your loss. Sherman A1 Oct 2014 #82
My condolences. westerebus Oct 2014 #83
Love and Peace. Grieve well. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #84
My dad, also a WW II veteran (Marine Raider, 1st Marine Division) died of ALS in 2000. catbyte Oct 2014 #85
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #90
I am so sorry for your loss. LoisB Oct 2014 #86
I am so sorry for your loss. LiberalLoner Oct 2014 #91
So sorry for your loss VA_Jill Oct 2014 #92
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #94
"We need to address our toxins and our Wars people." calimary Oct 2014 #93
My husband is dealing with Agent Orange issues right now.. the VA is secondwind Oct 2014 #95
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #108
My deepest sympathies on your loss. CrispyQ Oct 2014 #96
My deepest sympathies Glinda Peacetrain Oct 2014 #97
***hug*** myrna minx Oct 2014 #98
My sincere sympathies. Raster Oct 2014 #99
May he RIP riverbendviewgal Oct 2014 #100
I am sorry for your loss and thankful for your post Burma Jones Oct 2014 #101
So sorry. We do need to address our wars. We need to bid them good bye. merrily Oct 2014 #102
I am sorry for your tremendous loss. And I agree with your closing thought. marble falls Oct 2014 #103
Condolences and best wishes for family and friends. raven mad Oct 2014 #109
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #114
so very sorry for your loss. mountain grammy Oct 2014 #110
I am so sorry for your loss, glinda. Granny M Oct 2014 #111
I'm very sorry for your loss... Phentex Oct 2014 #112
may he rest in freedom noiretextatique Oct 2014 #113
So sorry TuxedoKat Oct 2014 #117
So sorry for your loss. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #118
I wish you peace. herding cats Oct 2014 #119
Update glinda Oct 2014 #120
WWII never left my dad either. Cruel tax on our family as well Maru Kitteh Oct 2014 #123
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #124
I'm so sorry for your loss, glinda. City Lights Oct 2014 #125
... kiva Oct 2014 #126
So sorry, Glinda. ladyVet Oct 2014 #127
(((((<3))))) glinda Oct 2014 #128
I'm so sorry! Solly Mack Oct 2014 #130

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. May good memories bring you peace. You have provided care and love to your parents...
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:56 PM
Oct 2014

in their time of need and unless someone has done this, it is hard to know how difficult it can be.

Hugs to you.

Warpy

(111,257 posts)
8. I'm so sorry. I lost mine 8 years ago and some days it feels like yesterday
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:59 PM
Oct 2014

but do know that you won't feel like this forever. It will get better with time.

War destroys everybody exposed to it in one way or another. It's why we need to rid our government of war hawks, never institute a draft unless invading hordes are already ashore, and make damned sure it only happens as a last resort, only slightly above national suicide with our oversupply of nukes.

War hawks have sacked the treasury and mortgaged our future. They need to be stopped so they can never do what they did to your dad (or mine) ever again.

But in time, your good memories will start to crowd out the bad ones and thinking of your dad will bring joy instead of pain.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
10. So sorry glinda
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:01 PM
Oct 2014

Losing your parents so close together must be really tough, but knowing loneliness and solitude first-hand, I'm not so sure that it is not the preferable way to go. It's quite common for elderly couples to die within a couple of years of each other. And after the past couple of years, I think I understand why. I lost my wife in 2012 to cancer. A broken heart is slow to mend.

Kaleva

(36,299 posts)
11. Your father, mother, you and the rest of your family are heroes
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:05 PM
Oct 2014

Having to go above and beyond for decades coping with the ravages of war.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
16. Please accept my condolences for your loss.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:15 PM
Oct 2014

Be gentle with yourself while you grieve. The scourge of war sends ripples of pain and anguish down through the generations.

May your father rest in peace.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
17. So many sacrificed their youth and their old age
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:16 PM
Oct 2014

I am sorry to hear of your father's passing, but glad he is relieved of his suffering.

TheVisitor

(173 posts)
21. Wish you the best,
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:29 PM
Oct 2014

it sounds like you can sigh a sigh of relief knowing that he wont be suffering anymore, even though it is painful to let loved ones go...
you are right about war... after all this time, it still hasn't solved anything... and yet people keep doing it
best wishes for you and your family, especially during this difficult time... may your Father rest in peace

CurtEastPoint

(18,644 posts)
22. So sorry, hon. I held my Dad's hand when he breathed his last.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:30 PM
Oct 2014

Also WWII vet. I miss him still, after 7 years.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
26. I am very sorry for your loss
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:39 PM
Oct 2014

War is hell and so many terrible things are used on soldiers, such as chemicals, that are disgusting. I hope someday there will be no more wars, but I won't see it in my life time.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
115. Yes.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:36 PM
Oct 2014


Daddy: US Army Aircorps, WII and US Army Korea
Dale, my sweet father-in-law: US Navy, Pacific Theater, WWII
Leroy: 5th Special Forces, Viet Nam, 1966, 1967, 1968
Brad: 101st Airborne, Viet Nam, 1969, 1970
Danny: USMC, Viet Nam, 1968, 1969, 1970

Amen. The ones who went before paved the way for those of us who chose to fight on.

dflprincess

(28,076 posts)
38. I'm so sorry Glinda
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:09 PM
Oct 2014

no matter how old they are or we are, losing our parents is just something we can't be ready for.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
42. Sorry to hear about your father, glinda.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:15 PM
Oct 2014

Remember all of the good things about him.
And let the rest go.

WWII ruined my father, too.
That poor kid from the farm just wasn't ready to see or endure what he saw and put up with.

May your father rest in peace.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
43. Checking in from my own grief storm to express my sincerest condolences
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:15 PM
Oct 2014

My father died at the end of June and I am *still* devastated about it.

He was a Viet Nam Veteran (helicopter pilot) and was doused in Agent Orange. The effects took decades off of his life, and it is devastating.

AwakeAtLast

(14,124 posts)
45. So, so sorry
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:32 PM
Oct 2014

It sounds like he gave every bit of himself for our country, and we should be grateful. Unfortunately our gratitude is not enough to cover you and your family's suffering.

My deepest condolences to you.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
48. I am sorry for your loss.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:53 PM
Oct 2014

I lost my father to Alzheimers almost three years ago and the last 3 or 4 years were very tough. He was 99 and also a WWII veteran. When he died, I found relief knowing that he was not suffering and the pain of losing a loved was over for me. In time the bad memories of the last few years faded and the great memories I had of him came back to the forefront. I hope that happens quickly for you and that you find peace going forward.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
51. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:19 PM
Oct 2014

Be comforted that he is now free from the physical and/or mental pain/memories that all veterans bring home from being in combat.

Granted, there are some good memories and friendships that will never be forgotten...

Take care of yourself during this time.

Good thoughts and prayers to you and your family.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
54. I'm so sorry, glinda… You see the good...
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:38 PM
Oct 2014

… May that comfort you for a long, long time… The good memories DO go on.

It's so true, as well - what we should address, and this helps so many others in similar conditions to live in that hope.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
55. So very sorry, losing a parent is extremely difficult. MDS ...
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:55 PM
Oct 2014

we had no idea of what it was until several years ago when my husband was diagnosed, fortunately he was in his late fifties and we just celebrated his 'second birthday' of four years post transplant.


"We need to address our toxins and our Wars people."

I so agree with your above statement! There has been discussion on marrowforums of MDS and agent orange.

http://forums.marrowforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200


Wishing you strength and that the ugly times are overshadowed by the good memories.











glinda

(14,807 posts)
65. Something else to think about is Gulf chems and Fracking chems....similar compounds.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:25 AM
Oct 2014

Many people are going to get this "condition"

glinda

(14,807 posts)
66. Your link is an excellent read.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:34 AM
Oct 2014

Benzene, which is one of the chemicals attributed to MDS was also used by General Mills Corporation and others. Think of the Chemicals being sprayed onto crops also. Benzene torches used in WWII also. There are other chemicals besides just that one of course that cause it.
We are in for a rude awakening medically in the coming years with this disease.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
116. Agreed, everything you read to begin with says it is disease that strikes older people ...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:47 PM
Oct 2014

but I've read several cases in the past few years where the person was quite young. MDS, secondary MDS, can also come about from other chemo drugs, for example some drugs for breast cancer.

Be as well as you can be during this difficult period.


California Congresswoman Fighting For Legislation That Could Have Prevented Husband's Death

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/07/17/california-congresswoman-fighting-for-legislation-that-could-have-prevented-husbands-death


"... Bob Matsui's pneumonia was a complication from Myelodysplastic syndrome, a stem cell disorder that is rare, not very well understood and affects 12,000-15,000 people a year, according to the MDS-focused foundation AAMDS...


...Throughout the long political career of her husband, who served 14 consecutive terms as a California congressman, Doris Matsui donned increasingly more important hats: housewife, socialite, Clinton campaign volunteer, then public liason in the White House.

And when Bob Matsui died in 2005 just days after he entered the hospital with pneumonia, Doris took on that role too—replacing her husband as the representative for California's 5th congressional district.


Bob Matsui's pneumonia was a complication from Myelodysplastic syndrome, a stem cell disorder that is rare, not very well understood and affects 12,000-15,000 people a year, according to the MDS-focused foundation AAMDS..."



glinda

(14,807 posts)
122. Thank you for this great info on MDS. What my
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:17 AM
Oct 2014

recent and exhaustive reading on it shows these numbers are rising rapidly. Most times diagnosed in the elderly but yes.....younger are getting it also. It has a strong relationship to certain named chemicals that sadly are in many things and activities. And yes....a lot in our Military. We are in big trouble. Big big trouble.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
129. My pleasure, although I am sorry for the reason ...
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:42 PM
Oct 2014

we've had this discussion.

Bottom line, IMHO, is to always question and go with your gut when told something is safe.





glinda

(14,807 posts)
131. Well we don't have any choice now do we?
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:43 PM
Oct 2014

Fracking chems, wastewater, GMOs. Pesticides, our furniture/carpeting, Pharmaceuticals, the list goes on.....

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
132. Yes the list goes on ...
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:09 PM
Oct 2014

just finished watching Frontline tonight "The Trouble with Antibiotics."

All we can do is try and remain vigilant while still living our lives. It is all a balancing act and we can only hope we have tipped the scales in our favor with some choices we make.

Hope you are doing well.







slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
134. That is all we can do ...
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:10 PM
Oct 2014

to try and find something positive in the negative.

So much easier to say than to do!

Wishing you hugs ... for a long time







 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
59. My heart goes out to you.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 11:27 PM
Oct 2014

Peace, love and healing energy to you. Your gift of taking care of him was special and so important. Peace and Love, Kim

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
67. He is at peace, and may you find peace.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 02:03 AM
Oct 2014

Peace will come, with you knowing that you were there for your father at his time of need.

At 87, he has lived a long live, and now deserves rest.

virgdem

(2,126 posts)
68. I'm so sorry for your loss..
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 02:16 AM
Oct 2014

May your Dad rest in peace finally. My Dad just passed in late March and it has been a difficult time for me. It does get better as time passes, but you will always miss him. May you find peace in the coming days and weeks ahead as you deal with the loss of your Dad.

babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
71. My
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:49 AM
Oct 2014

deepest condolences go out to you also, glinda. He knew you were there; that's the best anyone can do, I think.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
72. glinda, I am so sorry for your loss. that generation is gold. i hate to hear each time one goes.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:50 AM
Oct 2014

Your father is happy and healthy and with everyone who he loves and loves him. Right now, nothing will help you. You are worn out but you did a glorious thing. You helped your dad when he was helpless the way he helped you. Only time is your friend. It is hard but you will make it. One day at a time. Know you are loved. -RV

anniebelle

(899 posts)
77. Peace be with you.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:23 AM
Oct 2014

I lost my father in WWII when he was 28 years old and I was 4 months old ~ never got to meet the man. But it was like I lost my mother too ~ she grieved for him until her death at 82 years old. War is a game played by old men and they use our precious men and women as their pawns. You would think this country would wake up to the fact this game is played for BIG MONEY ~ not for country, not for freedom ~ just power and spoils of war. I used to think his dying was the worst that could happen to a soldier, I've found out since, that's not so. Hold tight to your good memories.

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
85. My dad, also a WW II veteran (Marine Raider, 1st Marine Division) died of ALS in 2000.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:33 AM
Oct 2014

There were 4 guys from his division that he still kept in contact with who died of it too. Who knows what they were exposed to back then. ALS is the most horrific disease I've ever seen. He went from tromping around in the woods & chopping down trees in December 1999 to not being able to lift a spoon in June 2000. He refused any artificial means to stay alive, so he passed away on June 5, 2000, 2 days shy of his 76th birthday, and 15 days shy of mine. Condolences on losing your dad, glinda. I miss mine every single day.

VA_Jill

(9,971 posts)
92. So sorry for your loss
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 12:13 PM
Oct 2014

My dad was a WWII veteran (officer in the U.S. Navy) and a brilliant man who later became a university professor and taught several generations of students, retiring at last from the chairmanship of the Geography department at University of Tennessee. In his later years he suffered from dementia and it was tragic to see this brilliant man lose first his sense of humor and then his comprehension of his surroundings and the world about him. He died 4 years ago of congestive heart failure at the Veterans Home in Knoxville, which is a fantastic place as such places go. He rarely talked about the nitty-gritty of his military service, preferring instead to focus on the people he served with and the places he saw, but after his death my daughter and her husband found his flight log book with descriptions, including where he had flown over Hiroshima and Nagasaki days after the bombings. None of this was in the memoir he wrote and had privately published for family about 12 years before he died. It's pretty harrowing, I gather, though I have yet to see it. It's no wonder he did not talk about it.

Now my son is dealing, or in his case NOT dealing, with PTSD from 2 tours in Iraq. He was always a sensitive kid and I worried when he enlisted in the Army. He went the National Guard route and was doing fine until Shrub started the Iraq thing and he had to go. He even did reasonably well with his first tour, up in Kurd country where things were quiet and about as safe as they're going to get in a country at war. It was the second tour that got him. He either won't or can't talk about it, but he is getting worse instead of better. I am afraid that one day he will not come to the door.

calimary

(81,265 posts)
93. "We need to address our toxins and our Wars people."
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 12:29 PM
Oct 2014

That would be the best epitaph for your dad, glinda. The best legacy he could possibly leave. And the best bequest he could pass on to you. Because we DO! We NEED to address our toxins and our wars. Especially our wars that leave so much damage behind, and I'm not talking only about wreckage and destruction and broken buildings and infrastructure. The broken PEOPLE left behind.

I'm deeply sorry for your loss. I'm even sadder about your dad's suffering for all those years. Thank you so much for sharing his story and for inviting us in to mourn with you. We all need to carry this forward in our hearts - AND in our actions and our activism, so more of our soldiers and our veterans don't have this kind of agony in their future.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
95. My husband is dealing with Agent Orange issues right now.. the VA is
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:42 PM
Oct 2014

looking over his case to see if he is eligible for disability. He is almost 72.

I am very sorry for your loss, you were a good caregiver.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
96. My deepest sympathies on your loss.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:54 PM
Oct 2014

I'm dreadfully sorry for the pain your father's service to his country caused.


Someone on DU posted this a few years ago & this poem haunts me like no other.

Wheat fell headless in the field
Till Death did reap enough.
We seek to bury the revealed
No earth is deep enough.
You cannot wash the stains from minds
No one can weep enough.
Nor shut the past behind the blinds
No night has sleep enough.

--Study member


For those interested, the source for the poem can be found at http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA319601

A 50-Year Prospective Study of the
Psychological Sequelae of World War II
Combat

Burma Jones

(11,760 posts)
101. I am sorry for your loss and thankful for your post
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:58 PM
Oct 2014

Your Father is now a small part of everyone who reads this.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
109. Condolences and best wishes for family and friends.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:03 PM
Oct 2014

From mustard gas to IR, we have been totally irresponsible to our servicemen and women. My brother-in-law died from Agent Orange (2 tours in Viet Nam) and this was only acknowledged by our government 2 years after his passing.

My heart hurts for you.

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
111. I am so sorry for your loss, glinda.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:32 PM
Oct 2014

He is at peace now, and free of pain. Wishing you peace during your time of grief.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
117. So sorry
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 11:06 PM
Oct 2014

for the loss of your beloved dad and mom. I'm sorry he had to go through so much suffering too. I'm sure you were a real comfort to him though. God bless you for being there for him.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
119. I wish you peace.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 11:15 PM
Oct 2014

I'm so very sorry for what you've went through.

I know it's not profound enough considering what you shared with us here. I agree with you on what you said for what it's worth.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
120. Update
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 08:50 PM
Oct 2014

Arrived home form Veteran's Cemetery a little while ago. I had not cried at all until I felt a tear or two come down my face when handed the Flag today after it was folded. It was a great honor to be with the 11 or so Military Personal that showed up. Two bugles in fact.
The V.A. people are and were the kindest and most honestly thoughtful of ALL the people I have had to deal with in the last over two years with my folks. BY FAR! Do not let bad Press cloud the hard work that those outside the Military Industrial Complex and Politics do. There is much suffering and many stories that they can tell you. There is too much human collaterol.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
123. WWII never left my dad either. Cruel tax on our family as well
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:43 AM
Oct 2014

War is hideous. He woke with terrors screaming and crying. Pain and rage in more than a dozen man's measure that he worked so hard to keep within a soul gentle by nature. It's so hard on the whole family, like a silent screw, twisting in a vice that nobody can see.

I am grieved for your loss. May the tender mercies of time soothe the raw and painful edges of your sorrows.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
127. So sorry, Glinda.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:40 PM
Oct 2014


My father, 84, has something similar called myelofibrosis, diagnosed last year. It's a bone marrow disease which the doctor says makes the bone marrow thick and rough like tree bark. His spleen has taken over making new blood, which is very hard on him. He's had transfusions, takes a cancer drug at $1000 a pop, twice a day. He's too old to get a bone marrow transplant.

But he still works. He's slowed down, and some days he comes home early, but he would die if he had to sit at home. And make my mother crazy (she had breast cancer two years ago, nearly dying from complications from the surgery).

It's hard knowing Daddy is going to die before his time from this. We expected him to live into his 90s, like most of his family, but the expectancy from this is five years.

Daddy was too young for WWII, but served in Korea, and spent many years in the National Guard.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
128. (((((<3)))))
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 05:36 PM
Oct 2014


Just spoke to someone whose father served in Korea and he passed in his late 50's from a heart condition that they believed was from serving there. They did not try to prove it but it was chemical related they were sure. My heart is with you, your family on the suffering experienced now from back then. He and no one deserves this. It is a series of hostile and heartless diseases.


My heart goes out right now to those in California whose aquifers are contaminated with tracking chems which are some of the same chems used in wars.


What is wrong with this picture, huh? Same chems, same companies, same end game of fossil fuels.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»My father died Sunday nig...