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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:09 PM Oct 2014

Tracing Ebola’s Breakout to an African 2-Year-Old

Patient Zero in the Ebola outbreak, researchers suspect, was a 2-year-old boy who died on Dec. 6, just a few days after falling ill in a village in Guéckédou, in southeastern Guinea. Bordering Sierra Leone and Liberia, Guéckédou is at the intersection of three nations, where the disease found an easy entry point to the region.

A week later, it killed the boy’s mother, then his 3-year-old sister, then his grandmother. All had fever, vomiting and diarrhea, but no one knew what had sickened them.

Two mourners at the grandmother’s funeral took the virus home to their village. A health worker carried it to still another, where he died, as did his doctor. They both infected relatives from other towns. By the time Ebola was recognized, in March, dozens of people had died in eight Guinean communities, and suspected cases were popping up in Liberia and Sierra Leone — three of the world’s poorest countries, recovering from years of political dysfunction and civil war.

Public health experts acknowledge that the initial response, both locally and internationally, was inadequate.

Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/world/africa/tracing-ebolas-breakout-to-an-african-2-year-old.html


Why did it take over 3 months for WHO and the CDC to identify Ebola?! I smell a rat!
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Tracing Ebola’s Breakout to an African 2-Year-Old (Original Post) apples and oranges Oct 2014 OP
Why would WHO or CDC not want to identify ebola? Serious question. uppityperson Oct 2014 #1
WHO has had its budget slashed since 2008 Warpy Oct 2014 #2
Because people die in droves Aerows Oct 2014 #3
I don't think they wanted to, they just didn't care. apples and oranges Oct 2014 #4
My word Aerows Oct 2014 #5
I'm guessing the OP assumes the whole world is Disneyland. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #9
Makers of Zmapp snuck into Guéckédou, injected a child with ebola? Seriously? uppityperson Oct 2014 #6
I'm seeing a lot of the conspiracy enthusiasts on DU today Warpy Oct 2014 #7
I wonder, too. Aerows Oct 2014 #10
So much medical ignorance going around Warpy Oct 2014 #13
Obama did it because slavery and stuff. F'ing Kenyan panader0 Oct 2014 #12
You mean you really love a good conspiracy movie. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #8
So are you saying FLyellowdog Oct 2014 #11

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
1. Why would WHO or CDC not want to identify ebola? Serious question.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:12 PM
Oct 2014

Interesting article though 2 months old.

Past Ebola outbreaks have been snuffed out, often within a few months. How, then, did this one spin so far out of control? It is partly a consequence of modernization in Africa, and perhaps a warning that future outbreaks, which are inevitable, will pose tougher challenges. Unlike most previous outbreaks, which occurred in remote, localized spots, this one began in a border region where roads have been improved and people travel a lot. In this case, the disease was on the move before health officials even knew it had struck.

Also, this part of Africa had never seen Ebola before. Health workers did not recognize it and had neither the training nor the equipment to avoid infecting themselves or other patients. Hospitals in the region often lack running water and gloves, and can be fertile ground for epidemics.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
2. WHO has had its budget slashed since 2008
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:23 PM
Oct 2014

and relies on local health workers to identify clusters of cases.

This case eluded detection since it was spread out. Earlier ebola outbreaks have been restricted to one or two villages, killing a score or more in a tight cluster. This one was spread around over a wide area, three cases here, two there, and so forth.

What you have to realize is that bad water gives people there diarrhea all the time and untreated diarrhea can be fatal, mostly for infants and children but occasionally for adults who can't drink enough to avoid dehydration. Death from dysentery is common.

This is the first instance of having it show up as a European style plague, moving quickly from area to area, family to family.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. Because people die in droves
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:32 PM
Oct 2014

from things like malaria, pertussis, tetanus and diphtheria in Africa?

It probably took them 3 months because people die from things there that Western countries aren't afflicted by, due to our levels of vaccination, and have cultural practices that are different from those in African countries.

If you are implying that the WHO wanted to unleash Ebola on the world, I strongly suggest you rethink that position.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
4. I don't think they wanted to, they just didn't care.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:38 PM
Oct 2014

But then there's this (from the same article):

But no one can explain how such a small child could have become the first person infected. Contaminated fruit is one possibility. An injection with a contaminated needle is another.


I'd like to know more about the pharmaceutical firm behind Zmapp and information about their travels.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
5. My word
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:51 PM
Oct 2014

You do realize that people in Africa regularly eat fruit bats, known vectors, and that a woman got it from preparing one for dinner in Rwanda?

Your user name is quite apt. "The pharmaceutical firm behind Zmapp purposefully infected people with Ebola" is apples and oranges away from "people eating bushmeat get infected and an experimental drug that has been in development for a year seems to help."

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
9. I'm guessing the OP assumes the whole world is Disneyland.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:57 PM
Oct 2014

Nice, clean, tidy Disneyland. The only way disease propagates is through the needle of Big Pharma.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
7. I'm seeing a lot of the conspiracy enthusiasts on DU today
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:55 PM
Oct 2014

I have to wonder what crackpot website out there is feeding them.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
8. You mean you really love a good conspiracy movie.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:56 PM
Oct 2014

Do the world a favor, and go rent a few.

(Yes, I know...I'm in on the plot. )

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