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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 06:20 AM Oct 2014

Here's What Happened When One City Gave Homeless People Shelter Instead of Throwing Them in Jail

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/heres-what-happened-when-one-city-gave-homeless-people-shelter-instead-throwing-them



Kilee Lowe was sitting in a park when cops picked her up and booked her into jail overnight.

After she got out the next morning, she returned to the park. The same officer who had thrown her into a cell not 24 hours before booked her again. It was back to jail for Kilee.

Kilee has been cycling in and out of the criminal justice system for years. After three and a half years in federal prison, she’s been homeless for a little over a year now.

“Just because I don’t have a credit card in my pocket,” she says, “does not make me a criminal.”

Kilee lives in one of hundreds of American cities that have criminalized homelessness. Sometimes the “crime” is loitering. Sometimes it’s panhandling. In 2014 alone, one hundred American cities have banned sitting or lying down in public places. Wherever it happens, the fallout is frustratingly similar.
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Here's What Happened When One City Gave Homeless People Shelter Instead of Throwing Them in Jail (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2014 OP
And it saves the city money overall Sienna86 Oct 2014 #1
An obvious solution, why is it taking so long for the rest to figure out? nt Live and Learn Oct 2014 #2
Hatred and stupidity about the homeless..k and r Stuart G Oct 2014 #6
If Salt Lake City, a bastion of conservatism can do this, so can the rest of us. marble falls Oct 2014 #3
I have a feeling... TheVisitor Oct 2014 #4
it's about time. nt magical thyme Oct 2014 #5
What a wonderful, compassionate, sensible approach! theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #7
Gosh, it's cheaper and probably lowers crime as well. raouldukelives Oct 2014 #8
For Profit Prisons blaze Oct 2014 #9
How true. They should be outlawed... nt fadedrose Oct 2014 #14
"One hundred American cities have banned sitting or lying down in public places..." PatrickforO Oct 2014 #10
Went to article - here are the numbers and how they did it JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #11
For profit dotymed Oct 2014 #12
K/R marmar Oct 2014 #13
This needs to be on CNN or 60 Minutes..... fadedrose Oct 2014 #15

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
6. Hatred and stupidity about the homeless..k and r
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 07:53 AM
Oct 2014

As stated in a post below..."If Salt Lake City can do it...so can the rest of cities that deal with this problem.."

TheVisitor

(173 posts)
4. I have a feeling...
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 07:51 AM
Oct 2014

that they're OK with being decent to people in Utah as long as God is somehow associated with it... but Salt Lake City is not nearly as conservative as the rest of Utah, it's kind of like Austin, Texas... It's a semi-liberal large city that exists in a sea of red...

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
8. Gosh, it's cheaper and probably lowers crime as well.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 08:23 AM
Oct 2014

Who knew people liked having shelter?
Heck, maybe if people had decent housing, food and healthcare they might feel less inclined to eviscerate others for what they have? Maybe we could deliver a far safer, more humane and much cheaper solution to our problems than additional prisons and expanding and militarizing our police forces.
Oh wait, scratch that. No profit motive. People would rather join & share in the profits from corporate prisons and defense contractors and provide them fiduciary protection for committing acts of terror on our citizenry than take the hard, narrow path of a liberal conscience.
Hard to blame them. Bigger flat screens, shinier cars, fancier foods and monstrously larger carbon footprints are fun, for them, today.

PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
10. "One hundred American cities have banned sitting or lying down in public places..."
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:25 AM
Oct 2014

The British did this back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Except they banned the homeless from sleeping in public at night. They hired hundreds of cops to roust them out - if anyone nodded off in a park, they were awakened and had to move.

Then when day came, they couldn't work because they hadn't had any sleep. Instead, they laid down and slept.

So, wealthy British made fun of them for being lazy.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
11. Went to article - here are the numbers and how they did it
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:26 AM
Oct 2014


Salt Lake City crunched the numbers. And the prescription was clear. The city was spending $20,000 per homeless resident per year – funding for policing, arrests, jail time, shelter, and emergency services. Homelessness was not going down. Instead, for $7,800 a year through a new program called Housing First, the city could provide a person with an apartment and case management services.

In 2005, the city was spending $40 million to address chronic homelessness. Several years after starting the Housing First program, in 2013, spending was down to $9.6 million.

And more importantly, chronic homelessness has dropped 72 percent.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
12. For profit
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:29 AM
Oct 2014

prisons, jails, probation (which usually redirects you to the others) will fight hard against this spreading.
Lives=profit...what a country.
I sure hope this does become the norm.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
15. This needs to be on CNN or 60 Minutes.....
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:42 AM
Oct 2014

Finally they are helping some vets get off the streets, but all people should have a little spot where they are safe and out of the elements....

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