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Woman sings two notes at the same time..... (Original Post) boston bean Oct 2014 OP
Day yamm that hurts my ear madokie Oct 2014 #1
yeah, it wasn't the best signing I ever heard. boston bean Oct 2014 #2
Tuvan throat-singing: The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #3
me neither.. never even knew it existed.... boston bean Oct 2014 #4
Reminded me of this as well. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #8
Sheldon Cooper Tuvan throat singing antigop Oct 2014 #9
I saw a video about that. It took me about five minutes MineralMan Oct 2014 #5
Whew! pinboy3niner Oct 2014 #6
lolz KittyWampus Oct 2014 #19
Interesting Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #7
Nope. Those partials are produced anytime we sing. MineralMan Oct 2014 #10
So, they're overtones. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #12
Exactly. If you can whistle, you already know how to do it. MineralMan Oct 2014 #14
For those who want an explanation of how this is done, MineralMan Oct 2014 #11
Yes..but is this an Ebola symptom? nt msanthrope Oct 2014 #13
Only if you have a high fever while doing it. MineralMan Oct 2014 #15
Just checking. And I don't think you are a racist for posting that. nt msanthrope Oct 2014 #16
Well, it certainly got my two cats' attention. Brigid Oct 2014 #17
Oh gosh, mine too! procon Oct 2014 #20
Tuvan throat singing from Mongolian>>>> WAY more interesting, imo KittyWampus Oct 2014 #18

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. Day yamm that hurts my ear
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:17 AM
Oct 2014

I only have one and I don't want to abuse it anymore than I have to to get by so I had to turn that off pretty quickly

boston bean

(36,224 posts)
2. yeah, it wasn't the best signing I ever heard.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:19 AM
Oct 2014

But still thought it was cool someone could make two voices at one time.

MineralMan

(146,345 posts)
5. I saw a video about that. It took me about five minutes
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:25 AM
Oct 2014

to reproduce the effect. Our voices always have a range of overtones or partials when we sing. Making those more prominent is just a matter of creating the right resonance cavity using the mouth, tongue and throat to produce a resonance at the frequency of the particular partial we're trying to emphasize.

It's not really difficult to do, once you know what you're trying to do. This woman has developed this ability very well. For me, it was just a curiosity, since I couldn't find any use for it in performance.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
7. Interesting
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:34 AM
Oct 2014

I'm guessing that the high notes are produced by use of a method called vocal whistle wherein the vocal cords are approximated and air passes through the approximated vocal cords, thus producing a whistle -- much like the whistle is produced using the lips instead of the vocal cords. Meanwhile, the lower part of the vocal cords are functioning normally, i.e., "flapping" back and forth while air passes through in order to make sound.

MineralMan

(146,345 posts)
10. Nope. Those partials are produced anytime we sing.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:39 AM
Oct 2014

Emphasizing them is simply done by creating a resonant cavity that matches the frequency of the partial. Watch her mouth and throat. She's producing the notes, which all exist in the overtones from the fundamental note she is singing, by altering the resonance of her mouth and throat to emphasize the desired partial.

We do the same thing when we whistle. The note is produced by creating a resonant cavity at the frequency of the note we want to produce.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
12. So, they're overtones.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:53 AM
Oct 2014

I've experienced it many times in choirs but never heard them produced by an individual voice. Again, interesting.

MineralMan

(146,345 posts)
14. Exactly. If you can whistle, you already know how to do it.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:01 AM
Oct 2014

Sing any low note, near the bottom of your vocal range. The partial overtones are all in there, and make up the timbre of your voice. By shaping your mouth, throat, and pharynx cavity in the same way as you do when you whistle a tune, you can emphasize any of the partials of the low note that is the fundamental tone. In fact, the vocal and other resonant cavities will be the same as if you were whistling the tone you're attempting to produce.

The easiest ones to produce are in the second and third harmonic series. In the second harmonic series you'll find the third, fifth and octave of the fundamental. In the third harmonic octave, you'll have those along with additional tones. Above that, you can actually produce a decent scale, but that's a bit more difficult and takes a lot of practice.

It took me a few minutes the first time I tried it, after hearing the Tuvan throat singers, but once I produced the first overtone, the rest came easily. Very small changes in the resonant cavity you produce are required.

Try it. You can do it, I guarantee, if you're able to carry a tune with your voice. Just keep in mind that people will think you're odd, so try it by yourself until you get the technique.

MineralMan

(146,345 posts)
11. For those who want an explanation of how this is done,
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:46 AM
Oct 2014

here's a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone_singing

It takes a bit of experimentation to learn how to do it, but once you understand the physics of it, it's pretty easy. Lots of cultures use overtone singing, as described at the link.

procon

(15,805 posts)
20. Oh gosh, mine too!
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 11:12 AM
Oct 2014

They've both just run back to the bedroom and are hiding under the bed. They are a tad confused when it comes to sounds, displaying no reaction to loud TV car crashes, explosions or blood curdling screams, yet any sort of music drives them out of the room, and singing scares silly. For our poor kittehs sake, maybe it's time to reconsider our entertainment choices.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
18. Tuvan throat singing from Mongolian>>>> WAY more interesting, imo
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:17 AM
Oct 2014

It's done in other indigenous cultures world wide but I'm familiar most w/Inuit and Mongol

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