Damn. My very conservative friend just nailed it, re: the new shooting in MO

[Recursion]

This is his quote,

"I looked in the published police manual and it said 'the very nature of a pedestrian stop renders it dangerous.' Really? Because panhandlers manage to speak to pedestrians dozens of times every day without anyone getting shot."

I disagree with nearly everything he ever says, but on this matter we're on the same page...

[B Calm]

1. It's pretty rare to find a republican learning to think for their

self, without a right wing propaganda mouth piece telling him or her how to think. Maybe you're influencing this person?

[Recursion]

2. He's very vocal about not being a Republican

He's voted independent, libertarian, or conservative/moderate Democrat his whole life. He has nothing but contempt for the GOP.

[B Calm]

3. LOL, they all say that, but when they vote, they vote for republicans.

Like ISIS members who hide their identities with a mask, republicans hide by saying they are libertarian or independent. I don't blame them, they're ashamed for being stupid.

[calimary]

9. That's why some run to the "libertarian" label for cover.

"Libertarian," for too many people I've seen and heard from, is just a safe word to use to describe that you're really a republi-CON, but you just don't want to admit it.

[unblock]

4. actually, panhandling is pretty dangerous.

most of the violence falls short of getting shot, though i'm sure that happens as well.


part of the reason a police pedestrian stop is dangerous is because the police have that power to radically alter the course of the pedestrian's life in a heartbeat. even people who have never don't anything remotely illegal know that misunderstandings and mistaken identities happen, never mind what the sight of a gun can do to people. any time the police stop someone, they're scaring them, and scared people can do stupid things.

so, yeah, it's dangerous, but that has much to do with the police, doesn't it?

[jtuck004]

7. "yeah, it's dangerous, but that has much to do with the police," < Seems we ought to plaster those

words around a bit. Maybe on billboards...

[Recursion]

11. Ding ding

yeah, it's dangerous, but that has much to do with the police

Some of the people on our side, aren't

[Downwinder]

5. It must be because pedestrians are inherently suspicious.

Why are they not driving like most people? Why would someone walk if they can ride? Walking on the sidewalk seems to be even more suspicious.

Being a pedestrian is "reasonable cause" to be stopped and harassed.

[lastlib]

6. especially if you're committing the serious crime of walking while dark.....

(...-skinned, that is...)

[Downwinder]

10. Light skinned after dark will get you stopped here.

I have noticed that it is even more likely if you are walking while female.

Disclaimer: Since I made it known that I am carrying a camera and recorder I have not been deemed suspicious.

[True Blue Door]

8. The act of walking often involves sinister conspiracies. Hitler walked.