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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN lead story - saying the senate is lost to the dems
Today . saying the math is impossible
No need to vote people. It's over.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)On edit: I saw the headline on CNN.com. Asking if Repubs have already won the Senate.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)CNN is not a valid news source, as far as I am concerned.
We should let its sponsors know our disapproval.
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)How about Huffington Post? They have it as a 55% probability that the Republicans will win the Senate. http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2014/senate-outlook
How about the NY Times? It changes every day, but today it's a 68% probability. http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/senate-model/
I know, we can get some good news from Daily Kos. http://www.dailykos.com/poll-explorer/2014-senate
Er. No. Not so much. Highest probability is that the Republicans will win the Senate there too.
Damn it. OK, let's check in with 538 Blog. They've given us good news in the past.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/senate-forecast/
Shit. Just shit. 57% probability there too.
Perhaps if we look at all the polls we can get some good news. RCP? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/2014_elections_senate_map_no_toss_ups.html
Oh FFS. 52 seats to the Republicans.
Perhaps you have a link to a site, because I'm all out of bookmarks where I get my information.
madville
(7,413 posts)Is that the Republucans have a good shot at 51 or 52 seats when it's over, that's what everyone is saying.
It may actually be worse if Democratic turnout is weaker than expected.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Remember during the 2012 election when Obama was well ahead of Romney in one of their polls, but they called it a tie?
Of course if a poll came out showing Romney ahead of Obama, they would tout it as proof Obama was going to get shellacked.
These guys don't even pretend anymore.
They've got their marching orders and they execute their game plan on a daily basis.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Ryano42
(1,577 posts)Between all the bashing and arguing here and Crap News Network calling the race, I can now spend my time better by sealing myself in plastic wrap and duct tape!
Thank you all.
librechik
(30,678 posts)CNN showing off its vast liberal slant again.
Beaverhausen
(24,475 posts)fuck CNN
Andy823
(11,495 posts)It's all about trying to discourage democrat from voting. If you can convince them it's a "lost cause" MAYBE they will stay home.
CNN bought and paid for by the right wing corporate assholes, or the Koch brothers.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Sounds like the M$M is nervous.
antiquie
(4,299 posts)Were not f--king kidding: Republicans are favored to take control of the Senate in 26 days. No matter where you live, please sign up to make phone calls to Democratic voters in the toss-up states that will decide the election.
herding cats
(19,569 posts)We should all be working our fingers off doing what we can to help in toss-up states!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)From all appearances, the Republicans are in big danger of losing seats in Kentucky and Kansas, South Dakota has suddenly gone from locked-up to toss-up, and Georgia might go with a Republican. If the Republicans lose those four seats, it doesn't much matter what happens in the rest of the country.
In the meantime, get out the vote. The more voters, the more Democrats win.
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)South Dakota will go to a runoff. For the Democrat to win, every one of the people who voted for either the Democrat (Weiland) or the Independent (Pressler) will have to show up and vote against the Republican in the runoff. The chances of that happening are a little slim don't you think? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/sd/south_dakota_senate_rounds_vs_weiland-4091.html
Kentucky? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/ky/kentucky_senate_mcconnell_vs_grimes-3485.html Look at the numbers, not just the ones where Grimes is winning, which are about one out of four polls, and inconsistant in which polls show her winning. For example, the Courier poll that shows her up by two now had her down by four, and down by two in the previous two cycles of the poll. For Grimes to win, the Undecideds are going to have to break at a ration of more than two to one for her. In other words, for every undecided that casts their ballot for McConnell, more than two undecided voters will have to tap the screen next to Grimes. Possible, but not very likely.
Kansas. The Democrats pulled out of the race. Everyone is calling it for the Independant at this point, but even with that the Rethugs are looking at 52 seats. http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/senate-model/
But what assurance do we have that the independent in Kansas will caucus with the Democrats? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/ks/kansas_senate_roberts_vs_orman-5216.html
If you had a choice of trying to keep your seat in six years, do you think you could get your name in the paper and thus get free publicity as a member of the minority, or the majority party? If the Rethugs promise not to primary him in six years, and give him a good committee assignment, what are the chances that Greg Orman won't jump to their side? But lets say he doesn't, let's say he goes with our party. We would still only have 48 seats in the Senate.
I live in Georgia. It is going Republican in the Senate Race. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/ga/georgia_senate_perdue_vs_nunn-4040.html Here again, Nunn would have to pick up more than two votes of the undecided to get over 50%. It's possible she will get more independents than Purdue, but not likely that she'll get that many more.
Colorado is close, and could go either way. It is within the MOE for most of the polls. In that race, using the averages, we just need a few more undecided than the Republicans get.
FSogol
(45,581 posts)Lots of folks seem to be quite content to bash Democratic chances. Wonder why?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Wait; no it's not.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)It's over.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)They will do this N O W.
Soc Sec? Same thing. Stocks are down...all 401k's down now...and they want this for your retirement?????
Look out. Dems better get off their butts and vote. They ARE known to sit out these midterm elections.
Oh, and Fuck CNN.
I cut my cable and don't miss it a bit!!!
Got a LAVA antenna for the roof and a roku for lots and lots of TV....anything I want that's over the internet, is now on my BIG screen TV in HD. All for free.
One time buy for antenna and one time buy for Roku. Both cheaper than two months of cable.
Do it! CUT THAT CORD! Send these propagandist bastards a lesson!
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)I think we'll probably pull off at least one upset (Kentucky or Kansas). I was worried about Kay Hagan, but she looked strong in her debate and helped herself a lot with her performance.
pstokely
(10,533 posts)stay home
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)America has a short term memory. By all means GOTV. In 2016 we can sweep once again.