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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:04 AM Oct 2014

West Virginia drops gay marriage ban

Celebrate!!

The Charleston Gazette
Thursday, October 9, 2014
West Virginia drops gay marriage ban
By Erin Beck Staff writer

Same-sex couples and civil rights advocates celebrated a historic victory Thursday after West Virginia government officials said they no longer would fight efforts to allow couples of the same gender to marry in the state.

Shortly after 1 p.m., Attorney General Patrick Morrisey said his office would not defend against the lawsuit challenging the state’s same-sex marriage ban and Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin said he would direct state agencies to follow the law as interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court, which recently refused to hear appeals of several challenges to marriage bans in other states.

A few hours later, clerks in some counties were giving marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples.

“Our state is known for its kindness and hospitality to residents and visitors alike,” Tomblin said in his statement. “I encourage all West Virginians — regardless of their personal beliefs — to uphold our statewide tradition of treating one another with dignity and respect.” -

See more at: http://www.wvgazette.com/article/20141009/GZ01/141009221/1419#sthash.4z4kq8FP.dpuf

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West Virginia drops gay marriage ban (Original Post) theHandpuppet Oct 2014 OP
Yay! WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #1
If y'all had just waited a week! LOL! Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #2
Yeah, we know! theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #4
What a beautiful photo. okasha Oct 2014 #7
Thank you! theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #10
Love that pic! Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #8
We're just going to call it our 24th anniversary, which it truly is theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #12
We are still discussing plans. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #14
That picture is so beautiful, you just brought a tear to my eye. CaptainTruth Oct 2014 #38
You just have lots of anniversaries. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #39
Very sweet! hifiguy Oct 2014 #45
Just have as many anniversaries as you want. merrily Oct 2014 #48
Wonderful photo. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #53
The Governor of West Virginia said that. Wow. arcane1 Oct 2014 #3
This is what our esteemed Oklahoma governor, Mary Fallin, had to say: Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #5
Human rights should never be put up for a vote. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #9
You should see her polticial ads. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #11
Why is Oklahoma so red? theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #13
I honestly don't know. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #15
Gay Jew sees giant burning cross?! theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #18
agree, some things should not be voted on demigoddess Oct 2014 #42
WV is run by Democrats theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #6
I think it's the coal association that makes them seem republican. arcane1 Oct 2014 #20
We've always found WV to be more accepting theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #23
no going back now ..... W VA can be drop dead beautiful Botany Oct 2014 #16
It can't be, but -- WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #17
Before they completed the turnpike, driving around there in the winter... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #19
I know what you mean. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #21
I hear you. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #24
Old US 33 going from Buckhannon to Elkins WVA used to be a bastard in the winter Botany Oct 2014 #22
I have to say I do like the modern roads theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #25
great pic... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #28
Yay! shenmue Oct 2014 #26
WV is ahead of my native Ohio on this? awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #27
A welcome surprise!! Fearless Oct 2014 #29
Scratch West Virginia off the Hucksters new residence rpannier Oct 2014 #30
I would like to ship his worthless ass to Somalia. SoapBox Oct 2014 #33
By dog sled rpannier Oct 2014 #35
Excellent shipping idea! SoapBox Oct 2014 #36
Wow! So Happy for you in West Virginia, tHp! Cha Oct 2014 #31
onward to cannabis legalization vlyons Oct 2014 #32
Great news! SoapBox Oct 2014 #34
this would be like Massachusetts banning same sex marriage JI7 Oct 2014 #37
You shut your mouth and comply with the law bluestateguy Oct 2014 #40
I am demigoddess Oct 2014 #41
Marriage equality is no longer a political wedge issue. morningfog Oct 2014 #43
But the religious right will remember that Democrats led the fight and there's still abortion. merrily Oct 2014 #47
That is so cool! Kath1 Oct 2014 #44
Come on VA this is getting embarrassing, now WVA has marriage equality and we don't ugghhhhh Heather MC Oct 2014 #46
Except you DO... Rhythm Oct 2014 #50
Environment jalan48 Oct 2014 #49
My county starts issuing marriage licenses tomorrow!!! Rhythm Oct 2014 #51
Yay! crystal dawn Oct 2014 #52

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
2. If y'all had just waited a week! LOL!
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:11 AM
Oct 2014

CONGRATS!!! What a wonderful one week anniversary gift (well, a day early)!!!

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
4. Yeah, we know!
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:17 AM
Oct 2014

We just got so tired of waiting with no guarantee when the ban would be lifted. Still, I'm so happy for all my LGBT brothers and sisters in WV!

What do you call a week's anniversary when you've already been together for 24 years? I think we're going to have to come up with a whole new anniversary system for folks like us.

Here's our photo that you liked -- to think this is what terrifies the "family values" folks. There's nothing here to hate or fear.


Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
8. Love that pic!
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:20 AM
Oct 2014

You are right about a new system of "anniversaries" though. When my partner becomes my husband, do we start back at zero? We have been together for 13 years. Aw hell, I will look at it as another day for gifts and lavishment.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
12. We're just going to call it our 24th anniversary, which it truly is
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:25 AM
Oct 2014

That way we can expect some nifty gifts for our 25th! (Just kidding.)

So what are your wedding plans now?

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
14. We are still discussing plans.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:28 AM
Oct 2014

My partner is concerned about blowback. Though he has an androgynous name, he is still concerned we could become targets. We aren't in a huge city. Hell, to cross from one side to the other, if you hit all the lights, takes 8 minutes! There is no place in town that is more than 15 minutes away. I will say most people who "suspect" about us have asked if we set a date. The 'common' folk are much less uptight than many would think.

CaptainTruth

(6,590 posts)
38. That picture is so beautiful, you just brought a tear to my eye.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 03:02 PM
Oct 2014

I've always believed marriage should be based on love. Seems like the right wing & religious folks think it should be based on sex.

To me, it degrades marriage to define it in terms of sex rather than in terms of love.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
39. You just have lots of anniversaries.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 04:02 PM
Oct 2014

We've got 4 so far. The one we've used for 33 years. The one (13 years later minus 1 day) celebrating our faith community accepting our marriage. The one I can't even remember (about 10 years after the second anniversary) when we were legally married. The one last year when the Federal government recognized our marriage. And soon, I hope, the final one when our state recognizes our marriage.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
45. Very sweet!
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:53 AM
Oct 2014

Congratulations and all the best wishes!! Live long, healthy and well together for many years!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
48. Just have as many anniversaries as you want.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:28 AM
Oct 2014

First date.

First time you said "I love you."

Date you began living together.

Marriage ceremony anniversary.

Whatever was meaningful to you, celebrate it.

Best wishes.

sheshe2

(83,753 posts)
53. Wonderful photo.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 07:10 PM
Oct 2014

Your rings are beautiful, you were finally able to come full circle, theHandpuppet.

Again congratulation to you both.

And to WV as well!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. The Governor of West Virginia said that. Wow.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:15 AM
Oct 2014

“Our state is known for its kindness and hospitality to residents and visitors alike,” Tomblin said in his statement. “I encourage all West Virginians — regardless of their personal beliefs — to uphold our statewide tradition of treating one another with dignity and respect.”

If we can't get rid of racism/sexism/homophobia completely, at least we're making it unpopular, and at full speed!!!!

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
5. This is what our esteemed Oklahoma governor, Mary Fallin, had to say:
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:18 AM
Oct 2014
"In 2004, voters had an opportunity to decide whether or not to allow same-sex marriage in Oklahoma. Seventy-six percent voted not to, and to instead define marriage as the union between one man and one woman. I was one of the many voters who cast my ballot in favor of traditional marriage. Today's ruling is another instance of federal courts ignoring the will of the people and trampling on the right of states to govern themselves. In this case, two judges have acted to overturn a law supported by Oklahomans. Their decision will be appealed and, I hope, overturned. As governor, I will continue to fight back against our federal government when it seeks to ignore or change laws written and supported by Oklahomans."

source


Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
11. You should see her polticial ads.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:24 AM
Oct 2014

One doesn't know whether to howl in laughter or cry in despair. She "beat back Obama's liberal agenda!"

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
15. I honestly don't know.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:34 AM
Oct 2014

I have lived here off and on since 1999, but the state is very conservative. Tulsa has some very liberal blood, and there are some other areas too, mostly with universities, but this is a VERY religious state. I about shit my pants and drove off the road when I was driving back from OKC one time because once you hit Edmond, there is a 4-story cross on the side of the highway. Because of the time of day/night, and the fact it was lit, the sun hit in a way that, at first glance, made it look like it was on fire! Gay Jew sees giant burning cross?! Yeah, I was a little freaked out, til I realized it wasn't on fire and part of church. The only other time I was that freaked out on an Oklahoma highway was when we were, again, coming home from OKC and saw the tornado hunters pulling off the road, only to realize a tornado was forming above us on the highway. Who knew a 1987 Pontiac could do 100 miles an hour?! It probably normally doesn't, but it did that day!

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
42. agree, some things should not be voted on
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 04:32 PM
Oct 2014

saying that, i was so happy to be able to vote for marriage equality in our state--as a statement of where we stand today--against discrimination.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
20. I think it's the coal association that makes them seem republican.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:58 AM
Oct 2014

Heck, I'm from Virginia, and always thought that WV was more conservatives.

Ah, what stereotypes and media can do, even when we're looking for it. Thank you for your post!

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
23. We've always found WV to be more accepting
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:04 AM
Oct 2014

We lived in western Virginia for several years and there are places there that are downright scary. Very xenophobic. In one small town the local KKK, in the middle of the night, left a letter on our doorstep within a week of us being there. Beautiful country but I would never want to live there again.

Botany

(70,503 posts)
16. no going back now ..... W VA can be drop dead beautiful
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:36 AM
Oct 2014


all 50 states might very well have the right to marry who you love by 2015

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
19. Before they completed the turnpike, driving around there in the winter...
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:56 AM
Oct 2014

... was a white knuckle experience. Traveling from Virginia to Ohio, I had to exit the interstate at Sam Black Church and travel through the mountains and Rainelle. After about 60 miles of driving a course that would make a modern roller coaster seem like a snooze I'd finally come down from the mountains just south of Charleston. I don't miss those winter drives on the backroads -- I think they took about 20 years off my life. Gorgeous country but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be stuck there in winter.

WhiteAndNerdy

(365 posts)
21. I know what you mean.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:01 AM
Oct 2014

On my fourteenth birthday, my family got stuck in an ice storm not far from there and nearly went over the hillside at one point. I had this awful looping nightmare all night. I loved visiting, but I'm glad I didn't live there year-round.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
24. I hear you.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:08 AM
Oct 2014

I know when I'd drive those roads in winter you could always tell where the bad spots were because there'd be a set of tire tracks that simply disappeared over the side of a mountain!

Botany

(70,503 posts)
22. Old US 33 going from Buckhannon to Elkins WVA used to be a bastard in the winter
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:04 AM
Oct 2014

it is now a breeze on a 4 lane freeway

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
25. I have to say I do like the modern roads
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:11 AM
Oct 2014

It's not as scenic but who can enjoy the scenery if you're trying like hell not to drive off the side of a mountain, anyway?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
27. WV is ahead of my native Ohio on this?
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:54 AM
Oct 2014

"Almost heaven, West Virginia". As an Ohioan, I take back all of my WV jokes. K&R

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
30. Scratch West Virginia off the Hucksters new residence
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:28 AM
Oct 2014

At the rate it's going, he'll be stuck moving to Russia or a western Asian country

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
35. By dog sled
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 03:01 AM
Oct 2014

or 8th class postage
That's where they dump the box in the ocean and let the tides carry it

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
32. onward to cannabis legalization
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:33 AM
Oct 2014

The culture wars are giving ground this week

marriage equality - check
fair voter laws - half a check
legalize recreational pot >>> onward
equal pay for women >>>

JI7

(89,249 posts)
37. this would be like Massachusetts banning same sex marriage
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 03:23 AM
Oct 2014

that would be a sign of how tough the battle will be for supporters and how far we still have to go.

WV ending the ban means it's opponents of equal rights who have lost.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
43. Marriage equality is no longer a political wedge issue.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 04:39 PM
Oct 2014

It is great to watch the speed of its national arrival.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
47. But the religious right will remember that Democrats led the fight and there's still abortion.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:24 AM
Oct 2014

Still the fewer cultural issues, the more maybe, maybe the parties will have to focus on other issues.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
44. That is so cool!
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:11 PM
Oct 2014

So happy for you in West Virginia!

Brought the laptop out here on the porch to smoke a cigarette, have a gass of wine and check out DU. Hoisting my glass right now in celebration!

Rhythm

(5,435 posts)
50. Except you DO...
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 01:50 AM
Oct 2014

The SCOTUS punt of the US 4th Circuit's overturn of Virginia's prohibition means y'all are in the 'equality club' too!

Heck, y'all we were here BEFORE us!




jalan48

(13,864 posts)
49. Environment
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 12:40 PM
Oct 2014

Now if West Virginians can only do something about the big corporations ruining their environment. Gay or straight they all have to drink the water and breathe the air.

Rhythm

(5,435 posts)
51. My county starts issuing marriage licenses tomorrow!!!
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 01:53 AM
Oct 2014

I just want to go hang out at the courthouse downtown and be a freelance witness for those rushing to tie the knot!!!

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