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Malraiders

(444 posts)
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 05:44 PM Oct 2014

Sheriff Deputy releases K9 to bite handcuffed man

And the dog latches on to the man's inner thigh and it seems to take a long time for the well trained officer to manke the well trained German Shepard to release the man from the bite.

That is why those dogs are so expensive. They are so well trained.

Then the cop yells at the man for moving. He tells the guy (paraphrasing - When I tell you to stop moving, you better stop moving.

Here's the video:

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Sheriff Deputy releases K9 to bite handcuffed man (Original Post) Malraiders Oct 2014 OP
I hope this man sues the shit out these assholes Politicalboi Oct 2014 #1
I just love cops. Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #2
50 Shades of Wrong Nictuku Oct 2014 #3
Who was filming that? The camera got real close. Was that one of those cop body cameras they wear? blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #4
This is coming up on MSNBC Go Vols Oct 2014 #5
Fire that piece of shit cop and retire the dog. MerryBlooms Oct 2014 #6
Released the dog JimDandy Oct 2014 #7
Most cops are good cops!!11! Mariana Oct 2014 #22
Sad but true: JimDandy Oct 2014 #23
Does this Shock Anyone? star14 Oct 2014 #8
Why is this donut eating bastard still a cop? He should be prosecuted for assault. Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #9
Sadistic fascists. lpbk2713 Oct 2014 #10
Yay cops! They're the best! arcane1 Oct 2014 #11
Beat me by a minute. Iggo Oct 2014 #13
There he is! arcane1 Oct 2014 #14
Yay, Cops! Iggo Oct 2014 #12
I have a lot of doubts about that dogs training.. ms liberty Oct 2014 #15
The dog was doing it's job, it was the cop that screwed up Marrah_G Oct 2014 #20
Cops are psychopaths. joshcryer Oct 2014 #16
I did not see.... SouthernLiberal Oct 2014 #17
Psychos love badges. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #18
The cop lost control of his dog. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #19
he did lose the leash TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #24
Thank you for all the insight Marrah_G Oct 2014 #25
Did you see the reaction of the other officer's scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #28
I'll have to watch it again for that TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #29
That's why there suppose to be a screening process not only for K9 officers scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #30
it needs to be disbanded TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #32
I agree it is a poor handler yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #31
more info - police chief's response Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #21
Ya know, when the guy is writhing in pain and they say he should have held still, I can't buy it. Shrike47 Oct 2014 #26
He didn't release him , dog got away scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #27
Fucking cowardly criminals in blue. SamKnause Oct 2014 #33
Its never a pitbull, nilesobek Oct 2014 #34
once the guy was cuffed onethatcares Oct 2014 #35
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
1. I hope this man sues the shit out these assholes
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 05:55 PM
Oct 2014

Trying to excuse the dog attack over a little movement. And then the out of shape cop couldn't even pull the dog off.

Nictuku

(3,610 posts)
3. 50 Shades of Wrong
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:02 PM
Oct 2014

.... I don't know what happened before the tape, but it was clear this person was totally cooperative with the police. It is unbelievable that a K-9 police dog is released to attack someone who is face down .... handcuffed.

Don't watch this if you don't want to get angry.

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
6. Fire that piece of shit cop and retire the dog.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:23 PM
Oct 2014

I hope there's a civil suit awarded that breaks that asshole's bank.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
7. Released the dog
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:29 PM
Oct 2014

on the absolutely compliant prisoner. WOW! I hope all 4 of these sickos have been fired. They just stood there and let the dog sink his teeth in for at least 30 seconds.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
22. Most cops are good cops!!11!
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 10:34 PM
Oct 2014

It's only a few bad apples!11!1



Yeah, sure, that's why we almost never see any "good" cops stepping and and stopping the "bad" cops in any of these videos. If there were so many "good" cops out there, it would be happening all the time.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
23. Sad but true:
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 10:56 PM
Oct 2014

"Thats's why we almost never see any 'good' cops stepping (in) and stopping the 'bad' cops in any of these videos."

 

star14

(15 posts)
8. Does this Shock Anyone?
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:29 PM
Oct 2014

I'm am not shocked at a damn thing the police does anymore, and we all need to stand up to fight this crap.

Kingofalldems

(38,456 posts)
9. Why is this donut eating bastard still a cop? He should be prosecuted for assault.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:36 PM
Oct 2014

I wonder if his buddies on the scene reported this?

If not, they should also be fired.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
10. Sadistic fascists.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:36 PM
Oct 2014



This is how they get their rocks off.

They yuk it up over this sort of thing when they gather at Dunkin Donuts.

ms liberty

(8,574 posts)
15. I have a lot of doubts about that dogs training..
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:54 PM
Oct 2014

Unless he had given it a command prior to the beginning of the video that had not been countermanded properly, that dog was not well trained and he seemed to be a crappy handler. I've had GSD's for most of my life, some of them professionally trained, and this video is disturbing on several levels.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
20. The dog was doing it's job, it was the cop that screwed up
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 09:07 PM
Oct 2014

He dropped the leash. Cop needs to be reassigned at the very least.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
16. Cops are psychopaths.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:55 PM
Oct 2014

It was clear that this cop was wrong, his dog got away, and rather than speak calmly, and tell the man to be still and that the dog was not under control, he decided to play as if everything was hunky dory and that it was the guys fault for moving (writhing in pain) that the dog wasn't letting go.

Of course, admitting a mistake means instant lawsuit. That's why people are lying corrupt jerks these days.

This looks like a wearable camera, easy settlement, no apology from the cop for how he was behaving.

SouthernLiberal

(407 posts)
17. I did not see....
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 08:37 PM
Oct 2014

any indication that the dog was ever under the control of it's handler. If anything, the best I can say that the dog's purpose was to frighten suspects. In this case, it appears to me that the dog was used as an instrument of torture, perhaps to punish the man because the cops did not find the gun they were looking for.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
19. The cop lost control of his dog.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 09:05 PM
Oct 2014

I don't think it was intentional, but that really does not matter. That cop needs to not be a K-9 officer anymore. I have a feeling it's going to cost the town a good chunk of money.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
24. he did lose the leash
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 11:43 PM
Oct 2014

I saw a lot of mistakes he was making. Not everyone is cut out to be a handler, and he shouldn't have been patrolling with the dog until he and the dog are extensively trained together and pass training tests. The dog shouldn't have been allowed to bark wildly and keep lunging like that, and the officer didn't do anything about it.

Going by the shadow of him and that dog there was one point where it was clear he was just casually holding the leash - didn't even look like he had his hand wrapped around it and that it was just laying atop his palm.

This dog doesn't seem to have gotten any real training. It went after the guy on the ground without any command given. That's just outrageous. TRAINED police dogs are expensive, but it's things like this that make it imperative for the dogs to be fully trained before purchase... after all, they can be a hazard to the officer handlers train with them if they aren't. It's scary to find that some departments appear to be purchasing far cheaper untrained dogs and doing their own training that is woefully inadequate.

My local department has four K9's now. All were purchased fully trained, and the officers paired with them to be their handlers were really scrutinized for suitability including their household conditions since the dogs live with their handler and his/her family all their lives. For a couple of years they only had one, and knowing the officer handler fairly well I'd bombard him with questions any time I ran into him. Eventually I was allowed to watch their early morning daily sessions and that grew into helping out with equipment and stuff like that - just being useful. After awhile I just didn't have time for it anymore.

That dog knows me though. I had to stop at the police station a couple of weeks ago to pick up this year's parking permit for our street (we only have street parking and there's precious little of it, so the people that live here got stickers so we get first dibs on spaces). He was in the parking lot talking to one of the officers with K___ off leash beside him when I walked by, and K___ recognized me and started wagging his tail, but the officer had to tell him to go sit in the car since he's not allowed to just go up to anyone he knows. And of course, being the well trained dog that he is, the second the command was given he immediately went right into the back seat of the patrol car and sat down, but his eyes followed me all the way into the building. I felt so horrible for the dog that I couldn't greet him like I'd been able to do before when I used to hang out and watch the training sessions and making myself useful. They were so interesting, and I learned so much.

I've been accustomed to seeing what a fully trained K9 acts like and how their handler acts with them, and as soon as this video started I was shocked at how both the handler and dog seemed to be woefully lacking. Even without a leash at all K___ would always do exactly what he was told and if not told to do anything other than sit quietly while his handler chatted with someone in the parking lot until given another command that's what he'd do. Both the dog and handler in this video is shockingly unlike what I'm used to seeing either in person or in watching K9 training, competition or community presentation videos. Almost like both the handler and the dog were just some neighbor with their dog on the street.

Whatever this police department is they've made a huge mess of their K9 unit. A handler that can't control his K9 even on leash and a K9 that attacks someone without a command??? Outrageous. And dangerous as hell to the community.

I really don't know what to make of this video. Even the clock on the video doesn't look like it's a police car or officer device but a regular camera. That's just how bad whoever the handler and the dog are, and if they really are police K9 and handler... OMG.

On edit: Watching the video again, it certainly does seem to be a police car video and a really horribly trained or untrained handler and dog. The reason he told the guy to stop moving is because UNTRAINED K9's more true to their dog nature than true to commands won't let go if the thing they're biting is still moving. To dog, a thing is not dead or subdued if it moves. This handler KNOWS the dog isn't properly trained and instead of commanding it to leave off had to tell the guy to not move so that the dog would let got on its own... and that's because he had to know the dog couldn't be commanded to let go. OMG!

I really want to know what department this was. No uncontrolled K9 has any business being on any police force. And the handler knows he can't control it.


 

scarystuffyo

(733 posts)
28. Did you see the reaction of the other officer's
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 12:27 AM
Oct 2014

They thought they might be the target of that dog

That was all kinds of fucked up

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
29. I'll have to watch it again for that
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 12:52 AM
Oct 2014

I wasn't really paying much attention to what they were doing being so shocked from the first couple of frames of the video how incompetent both handler and dog were. I swear I was really starting to think this just couldn't be a K9 with it's officer handler and was just some neighbor with a vicious uncontrolled dog on the street filming on their own. It was THAT bad. The officer couldn't handle the dog even on leash for heaven' sake. The dog ran in and bit of it's own accorded - it was given no command to do anything at all, and when it did that there was no command for the dog to leave off. That tells me that the handler KNEW he couldn't control this dog and that it wasn't trained.

Gah! It's horrifying! Can you imagine if he and his dog were out patrolling in a neighborhood and the dog suddenly decided it should rip into a little kid for no reason when not being commanded to do anything and the officer wasn't even able to control the dog on a damn leash as in this video??? WTF???

Did this department just bring in some dink with his vicious dog off the street and slap a badge on him or something??? Because that sure as hell is what it looks like. It's an example of everything a K9 and it's handler should never ever be.

I'll have to watch it again for the other officers' reactions though my eyeballs may fall out in horror. Each time I watch it it just gets worse.

 

scarystuffyo

(733 posts)
30. That's why there suppose to be a screening process not only for K9 officers
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 12:56 AM
Oct 2014

but much more importantly for the temperament of the dogs. I don't know what type of police dept that is but their
K9 unit needs a revamp

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
32. it needs to be disbanded
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 01:11 AM
Oct 2014

It's THAT bad.

There's a reason why dogs are purchased already trained. They may not have all the training they need, and until they do they can't be out on patrol. Most K9's are cross-trained in other duties like search and rescue, drug sniffing, etc., and sometimes these other things need to be taught.

This department seems to have not at all grasped how a K9 unit is supposed to be, not brought in an outside specific K9 trainer for both dogs and handlers to teach them and tried to do it on the cheap themselves with untrained far cheaper dogs and no knowledge or direction in how to train them, what equipment is necessary and how to use it, no testing of the dog or handler, etc. before putting them out on patrol. The whole thing from the top down is an exercise in how NOT to do things. And it's a disgrace.

Ugh. I have to do something else for awhile and get this horror out of head.

 

yesiwasacop

(93 posts)
31. I agree it is a poor handler
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 01:01 AM
Oct 2014

couple reasons i believe it to be an accident:

1- They dont relase dogs on purpose with a short leash on. It can get caught on something.

2- If a cop is going to release a dog on a suspect, they always warn the other cops to get away. The dogs dont really recognize uniforms and will bite the nearest target of opportunity. Usually it is whoever is moving. I cant believe the dog didnt bite one of the cops, they were moving more than the suspect was.

These dogs will bite cops. When we search large areas or warehouses, we always maintain eye contact with the handler and they let the dog smell us before the search. We still get a cop bit from time to time.

Our dogs on occasion get released on people who are being compliant, as long as the person isnt moving they usually wont bite.

Anyway- bad handler at the very least. The agency will pay for that one as they should. I just dont see it being on purpose.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
21. more info - police chief's response
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 09:22 PM
Oct 2014

n an interview given before the video recording was obtained, CCSO Lt. Michael Zimmerman explained that the dog had reacted to Badley’s movement according to his training, while noting that Tyson had not previously attacked other suspects once they were on the ground.

“It’s not like this particular dog just runs and bites anyone who is around,” he said. “There are specific things he looks for. This guys rolls over on his right side and Tyson thinks he’s trying to run away.”

After reviewing the video, Green Forest Police Chief John Bailey blamed the sheriffs department for the attack and said Tyson should be re-evaluated as a K9 member.

“I don’t understand why they want to try to blame anyone else,” Bailey said. “Generally when you have this kind of failure it’s due to a lack of training. … I believe it was an accident. The dog was excited, got loose and unfortunately the man got bitten. If we had a dog that did something like that it would be standard procedure that the dog would be offline until evaluated and re-certified.”

Badley was not charged in connection with the incident that resulted in the dog bite, but was taken into custody on an outstanding warrant.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/watch-body-cam-video-shows-suspect-begging-cop-to-call-off-out-of-control-k9/

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
26. Ya know, when the guy is writhing in pain and they say he should have held still, I can't buy it.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 12:15 AM
Oct 2014

Ever. They use it as an excuse for 'resisting', too. Bugs the hell out of me.

SamKnause

(13,103 posts)
33. Fucking cowardly criminals in blue.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 01:23 AM
Oct 2014

They are terrified of a man face down and in handcuffs.

They are not your friends.

They are not their to protect or serve the public.

They are criminal cartels in uniforms and armed to the teeth.

I don't like the 'police' using dogs or horses.

They have no respect for the life of humans, I can only imagine how abusive they are to the animals.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
35. once the guy was cuffed
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:21 AM
Oct 2014

and had 4 cops standing around him, the dog should have been put back in the patrol car.

here goes another waste of taxpayer dollars.

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