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TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:45 AM Apr 2012

I am getting REALLY sick and tired of Marcy Wheeler.

Also known as "Emptywheel" in the blogosphere. More and more I think the "empty" part is her head. Unlike the average blogger one gripes about, I've actually MET Marcy Wheeler, and frankly every time I read something she's written I get closer to defriending her on Facebook. Maybe this will be the deal breaker: her newest screed basically pitches the claim that there's no way George Zimmerman should be under arrest because the prosecutor hasn't shown probable cause for even a manslaughter charge, let alone murder two.

The affidavit goes out of its way to spin innocuous and perfectly legal activity into some nebulous vignette of implied criminality, yet self servingly there is not a single fleeting reference to Zimmerman’s claim of having acted in self defense. To be sure, in charging a case, a prosecutor is going to frame the facts to support her charge. But that does not mean she can blithely ignore patently exculpatory facts known to her and germane to the interests of justice. Angela Corey’s affidavit is thusly not just deficient, but dishonest in a very slimy, even if not unethical way. It is patently offensive in that regard.

The case is also patently overcharged. As stated above, I think it is more than arguable that the probable cause affidavit does not even support manslaughter, but it is not remotely close to supporting second degree murder. This is an embarrassment not only for Angela Corey, but the magistrate who signed off on this bunk. It makes the criminal justice system look horrible.


http://www.emptywheel.net/2012/04/14/zimmerman-anatomy-of-an-deficient-probable-cause-affidavit/

Not that Wheeler doesn't already have a towering level of undeserved arrogance on just about every subject, but the way that she's herein asserting that she knows the law better than both the veteran prosecutor and the judge is pretty damn hilarious when you consider that Wheeler isn't even a lawyer. She has a PhD in Comparative Literature, which last time I checked was NOT on the bar exam.

Even putting that aside, her comments show both a ghastly failure to understand the concept of probable cause, and a refusal to comprehend the basic facts of the case. "Probable cause" is not a standard of PROOF, it's a standard of belief. In other words, probable cause is when one has the reasonable suspicion that a person has committed a crime. For instance, if someone is driving erratically and acts intoxicated, that's probable cause for driving under the influence, even if you can't prove it right there and then. Likewise with a story that has as many holes in it as Zimmerman's, when there isn't even any disagreement about whether he shot Martin, it's not hard to find probable cause that he should be charged. Regardless of what you think Zimmerman did or didn't do, I think any reasonable person would say that there's enough evidence to warrant examination by the court.

And then, just at the end, she throws in a half-assed attempt at CYA, asserting that she's not making a pro-Zimmerman argument, even though it's patently clear that she is when she outright says he shouldn't be under arrest based on the prosecutor's affidavit.

Okay, rant mode off.
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I am getting REALLY sick and tired of Marcy Wheeler. (Original Post) TheWraith Apr 2012 OP
Thanks, Wraith. elleng Apr 2012 #1
I'm annoyed by people who use the word "thusly" Quantess Apr 2012 #2
I read her post about the Zimmerman affidavit dballance Apr 2012 #3
They didn't match the screams to Martin. There seem to be no recordings of his voice ever. dkf Apr 2012 #9
I think the MORE important point here is that CatWoman Apr 2012 #16
The article was written by bmaz. Who is a lawyer. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #4
Alan Dershowitz is another one who made me want to barf.... Little Star Apr 2012 #5
I think Marcy and bmaz got it badly wrong on this one. But, she's been right on many things. leveymg Apr 2012 #6
Correct. Justice Thomas is a perfect example of your last sentence (as is John Woo). mmonk Apr 2012 #7
I can't figure out why Marcy is being dragged into this to begin with... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #8
Does Marcy have a say on content? The piece is so wrong-headed that I would have objected, leveymg Apr 2012 #10
That would probably be a good question to answer before Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #11
AFAIK, bmaz is a guest columnist on emptywheel's site. Marcy is publisher, so she shares the leveymg Apr 2012 #12
Her 'legal expert' was obliterated in the comments..... nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #13
No, he wasn't Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #14
Yeah...he missed the PC determination in the court proceedings msanthrope Apr 2012 #15
I've never heard of Marcy Wheeler rusty fender Apr 2012 #17

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
2. I'm annoyed by people who use the word "thusly"
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 03:08 AM
Apr 2012

Who says "thusly" in 2012?
No way would I waste time reading that blog. I would be too irritated by her writing style.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
3. I read her post about the Zimmerman affidavit
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:39 AM
Apr 2012

And I just couldn't let myself start responding to it or I think I might get banned. It was so devoid of actual reason, fact or logic reading it was like listening to fingernails on a chalk board.

The timeline impeaches Zimmerman's account because there just isn't enough time for everything he says happened to have happened. Audio experts have used sophisticated electronics to match the screams for help on the 911 call with Martin, not Zimmerman. The phone call Martin was on with his girlfriend provides ample evidence Zimmerman pursued Martin despite the police dispatcher telling him not to and to stay in his vehicle.

So what more does she want?


If Zimmerman, apparently a cop wanna-be, had not wanted to play Kojack and had stayed in his vehicle as instructed none of this would have ever happened.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
9. They didn't match the screams to Martin. There seem to be no recordings of his voice ever.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 09:06 AM
Apr 2012

Not even a voice mail. Weird.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
16. I think the MORE important point here is that
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:50 AM
Apr 2012

they did not match it to Zimmerman.

Was it not Zimmerman and his enabler squad who claims it was Zimmerman yelling for help?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. I think Marcy and bmaz got it badly wrong on this one. But, she's been right on many things.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:45 AM
Apr 2012

So, I'll give Marcy the benefit of the doubt.

BTW: law school doesn't automatically make people right or wrong in their legal judgments, and lawyers in contested matters are usually on the losing side at least half the time.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
8. I can't figure out why Marcy is being dragged into this to begin with...
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:56 AM
Apr 2012

she didn't write the piece. Bmaz did and bmaz IS a lawyer.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
10. Does Marcy have a say on content? The piece is so wrong-headed that I would have objected,
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 09:09 AM
Apr 2012

if I were her, if indeed she has editorial control.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
11. That would probably be a good question to answer before
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 09:18 AM
Apr 2012

criticizing her for writing something she did not write.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
12. AFAIK, bmaz is a guest columnist on emptywheel's site. Marcy is publisher, so she shares the
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:04 AM
Apr 2012

credit and criticism for what gets posted there. I think a lot of the flak she gets is not so much for this article (which I disagree with and think is wrongheaded), but on account of the fact that she is highly critical of a number of Obama's military, intel and surveillance policies - on that, I think she hits her target more often than some around here are comfortable with.

I will continue reading and supporting Marcy, and thank her for her work.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. Yeah...he missed the PC determination in the court proceedings
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:15 AM
Apr 2012

and is apparently profoundly ignorant of actual Florida practice.

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