The Nazis - A Warning From Yesterday For The UK

[Turborama]

Above - the first meeting of Hitler's Coalition Cabinet in January 1933. On the front right sits Franz Von Papen, his Vice-Chancellor, who thought he could control the Nazis to promote the interests of his own corporate sponsors and fellow nobles. A year later, it was Hitler who sacked Von Papen, who then was exiled as Ambassador to the Vatican City.

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This is very relevant in the UK at the moment with the rise of UKIP (Britain's Tea Party) and with regards to next year's general election there.

In yesterday's Huffington Post: Nigel Farage Says Ukip Would Prop Up A Minority Tory Government

An apt comparison that's doing the rounds on Facebook:

HITLER FARAGE COMES TO POWER

Germans Britons lacked confidence in their weak government, known as the Weimar Republic Con-Dem Coalition. These conditions provided the chance for the rise of a new leader, Adolf Hitler Nigel Farage, and his Party, the National Socialist German Workers Party United Kingdom Independence Party, or NAZI party UKIP for short.

Hitler Farage was a powerful and spellbinding speaker who attracted a wide following of Germans Britons desperate for change. He promised the disenchanted a better life and glorious Germany Britain. The NAZI UKIP appealed especially to the unemployed, young people and members of the lower middle class.

The Party rise to power was rapid. Before the economic depression struck the NAZI UKIP were practically unknown winning only 3% 3.1% of the vote of the Reichstag UK Parliament in elections in 1924 2010. In the 1932 2014 elections the NAZI UKIP won 33% 27.5% of the votes, more than any other party.

[Enthusiast]

1. Kicked and recommended! This thread deserves far more attention than it has gotten so far.

Thank you, Turborama.

[Turborama]

11. Sorry, Enthusiast.

I forgot to thank you for the K&R and the support.

[malaise]

2. Labor is now ahead by seven points

according to a poll I saw yesterday. Cameron is even prepared to abandon human rights as he veers further right.

[Spider Jerusalem]

3. There's no chance of UKIP emerging as the largest party in a hung parliament.

The Nazis were the largest party in the German elections of November 1932 and again in March 1933. UKIP won more votes than any other party in the elections for the European parliament; they will not win that many at a general election. Labour are likely to emerge as the largest party at the next general election; the only worry is that Tories + Ukip may have more seats and form a government; if that happens Ukip may get a few cabinet seats, but they won't be running the show.

[pampango]

4. True but in a close election UKIP could hold the balance of power and want anti-EU, anti-immigrant

policies from a new government in exchange for its support, if neither Labour nor the Tories emerge with a parliamentary majority.

UKIP has a long way to go to become the Nazis of 1933 but the Nazis polled around 3% in the parliamentary elections of 1924 and 1928. In 1930 it won 18% of the vote and became the second largest party in the parliament. Perhaps UKIP resembles the Nazi party of the late 20's and 1930 more than that of 1933. Let's hope it does not come to that but much of Hitler's popularity came from popular discontent with the Great Depression and with the ruling elite rather than direct support for him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party#Rise_to_power:_1925.E2.80.931933

[Spider Jerusalem]

5. not likely at this point

all the polls I've seen for at least the past year are showing a likely Labour majority: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

[Turborama]

6. Just saw this worrisome poll which gives UKIP the balance of power in a hung parliament...

Ukip surge would give party balance of power after next election, says poll
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/12/ukip-surge-balance-of-power-britain-poll

They might not win more seats than the Tories, but they will inevitably make the country take an even harder right turn if they go into coalition with them.

[Spider Jerusalem]

7. I'm highly sceptical of that.

You'd need to do polling on a constituency-by-constituency basis; 25% of people say they'll vote Ukip? okay, where are they? How many seats does that translate into? Where are those votes concentrated, and are they taking seats away from the Tories, Labour, or both? The analysis isn't really fine-grained enough to be much use as a predictor.

[Turborama]

9. Hopefully it is just an outlier.

But the closer it gets to the election the more important it gets to fight against the brainwashing that's going on and get out the vote.

BTW, have you heard this LBC interview of a UKIP zombie, yet? I found it terribly distrbing and probably the sort of responses you'd have hears in 1930s Germany: https://audioboom.com/boos/2550913-what-do-ukip-stand-for-james-o-brien-s-takedown-of-this-supporter-is-effortless

[Turborama]

8. This guy brilliantly explains what's going on in the UK

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You may find the first 35 seconds where he mocks a ranting reich winger a bit hard to understand, but the rest is absolutely SPOT ON! Such a shame about the swarm of brainwashed trolls in the YouTube comments, though. It's just like reading the comments section from the Daily Mail. They can't have listened to what he said and are just reacting to the title of the video.

[Octafish]

10. Gee. None of that made it into Corporate McPravda USA.

Thank you for covering the story, Turborama.

[Turborama]

12. And thank you for the thanks, Octafish

Glad it resonated with you.

[suffragette]

13. Another reason to despise austerity

K&R

[Dont call me Shirley]

14. The British royalty never stopped their imperialistic agenda, the simply went underground

with it. Now we can see their ugly heads reneging from their evil doing.

Hate = not liking someone or thing to the point of anger/rage.

Evil = taking that hatred to the next step of intentionally harming others.

Evil is not in the invisible sphere of religion. Evil is happening in our world now.