Pick Hillary's VP

[pscot]

How about a wise Latino. Could she pick another woman? Sherrod Brown could deliver Ohio and mollify progressives. Wyden would help out West. Who would you like to see on the ticket?

[femmocrat]

1. Martin O'Malley nt

[madinmaryland]

56. Sorry, but Martin O'Malley may be selecting Hillary as his running mate...

[femmocrat]

58. Did you see this thread about O'Malley's (lack of) support in MD?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251379938

[MADem]

67. "Casino O'Malley?" And that's at home? nt

[pscot]

93. It doesn't sound like

O'Malley would add anything to the ticket. Maryland will vote for Hillary without him and it's hard to see where he helps her.

[brooklynite]

101. Sorry, O'Malley's only going to run a "friendly camapign" again Hillary

(according to sources from his inside circle).

If you want Hillary to get beaten up in the Primary, you'll need to shop elsewhere.

[bigwillq]

2. Satan

[femmocrat]

3. :rofl:

That just struck me funny!

[bigwillq]

5. Glad you got a laugh out of it.

Sometimes we all need to take a deep breath and laugh. Have a good night.

[hughee99]

156. I don't know, he wasn't a very good VP last time.

[Optical.Catalyst]

4. Alan Grayson

Have the number two in attack mode constantly. Keep the repukes on the run.

[Erose999]

109. He's disappointed me with his stance on Ebola. He has a tendency to go off-the-cuff and I don't see

Hillary going with that.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

6. I had to check quickly that this wasn't

posted in the Hillary group, since I'd leave Hillary off of Hillary's ticket, but, if she has to be on it, and has to be in the top slot, I'd go for someone like Castro or Lee, which covers your first two suggestions. I wouldn't want to see a current Senator going for the VP slot, unless we could absolutely guarantee they'd be replaced immediately by another Dem Senator. Ie, no Senators from states with Republican govs, or who might turn around and elect a Republican to fill a Dem Senator's seat.

[pscot]

10. Humor me

This is a thought experiment.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

11. I did.

That's why I said Castro or Lee.

[Tikki]

7. Julian Castro

Tikki

[wyldwolf]

8. The next VP has already been picked

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. Hi like him. n/t

[Gothmog]

24. I have a Clinton/Castro 2016 bumper sticker

[GeorgeGist]

25. Looks goofy.

[wyldwolf]

28. I guess you'll have to get used to it Georgie.

[TBF]

99. The very popular ex-mayor of San Antonio -

he will be fantastic as VP and/or President.

[misterhighwasted]

26. HaHa..Castro! First a n African American then a Woman & a Hispanic

What a fine frenzy that would make. Hard to say whose heads would explode first.
Let the squirming begin!!
Fox & their teabola friends would be a sight to behold..oh please make it happen..

[bigwillq]

50. Teabola

Posted the other day that I didn't agree with jokes about Ebola but, damn, that's funny.

Teabola.

[yeoman6987]

57. There going Cruz/west

It is going to be a show down that is for sure.

[SidDithers]

33. I think you're right...nt

Sid

[madokie]

35. that would be my pick

[GP6971]

53. I agree.

Would be an excellent pick.

[joshcryer]

75. This has been planned House of Cards style for years.

The Democratic Party always needed to have a Latino candidate after a Woman candidate. This is exactly what is going to happen.

[MattBaggins]

81. Do we Dems have a say in this?4

[wyldwolf]

90. In VP selection? not as much as you think you do

[pscot]

94. I see the logic

[TBF]

100. Yup -

long time ago:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251337790

[djean111]

9. This progressive would not be "mollified" by seeing a Progressive reduced to a background,

mostly ceremonial, role. Neutered, as it were.
Wouldn't change my enthusiasm level one iota, and that is no enthusiasm at all.

[pscot]

12. Would you rather she "pivot"

to the right?

[djean111]

27. Pivot to the right? From where - the center right?

I think a Progressive VP would just be window dressing, it would be the Hillary and Bill show all the way.
Hillary might spout some Progressive campaign rhetoric, but that's about it.

[2banon]

73. How much more further to the right to PIVOT to, She actually qualifies as a Republican should just

run on that ticket.

[joshcryer]

77. Absurdity.

[cascadiance]

38. Yep, if I were someone like Sanders or Warren, I'd stay in the Senate instead in this case...

... though I could see either of them being the VP on the other's ticket as a worthwhile position.

[joshcryer]

76. It's more relevant to 2024 (or 2020, heaven forbid).

It's not about livening up progressives because 90% of them already support Clinton. The 10% that don't won't be persuaded if the head of the communist party himself was on the ticket.

[earthside]

13. Lloyd Blankfein.

We could rename the country "Goldman, Sachs, Clinton and Blankfein, LLC"

[hifiguy]

133. Might as well.

Between all of her BFFs in the criminal financier class and warmongering rhetoric she seems to be appropriating from her new (war-criminal) friend Kissinger, she may as well bring Cheney back and just be done with it.

[JEB]

14. Kissinger.

[pscot]

17. Kissinger is dead

That apparition seen with Obama last week was a hologram

[JEB]

21. Perfect then.

[nationalize the fed]

52. If he was younger he'd probably be in the running

He "advised" her when she was SOS





It's a New American Century!

[2banon]

74. ROFL

[Hoppy]

15. LLoyd Blankfein

It would save her wasting time going to Wall Street to find out what her overlords want her to do.

[Stellar]

142. That's about the size of it.

[Thinkingabout]

16. This would be a hard decision, so many to choose from.

I have looked at the Castro twins, O'Malley, Brown, Manchin, Webb, McCaskle, Warren, Grimes, Wendy Davis, this could go on for a while but isn't it comforting to know we have a big field to choose.

[pscot]

18. Vast, if you include

all registered Democrats and disregard electability as a requirement. It's that last that worries me.

[CK_John]

19. Joe Biden.

[hughee99]

155. If Hillary is the nominee, I'm not sure what Joe Biden adds to the ticket?

Obama had to pick someone with foreign policy experience, Hillary doesn't. Are Delaware's 3 electoral votes in doubt?

[Sancho]

20. Wesley Clark

[elleng]

34. HEY, Sancho!

[Gothmog]

22. Julian Castro

The Texas Democratic Party has been selling Clinton/Castro 2016 merchandise for over a year now

[grahamhgreen]

29. Feingold

[pscot]

96. He wouldn't carry Wisconsin.

[grahamhgreen]

122. Disagree.

[GummyBearz]

30. I know

Me.

I'm not latino or female. But I would bring in the vote of people who don't want another bought and paid for career politician. After that, I could run for president myself and make actual changes. Who's in?

[SidDithers]

31. There are a bunch of DUers who could fill the role...

'cause they're all so much smarter and more pure than Hillary.

Sid

[LawDeeDah]

55. I've never fed at the trough of a coup, so I guess I AM more pure.

[SidDithers]

65. You can Whisper who you'd think would be better...nt

Sid

[LawDeeDah]

68. I can mail you the exact same if you like.

But that would be weird!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

128. Manny would be better than Hillary. Is that what you were looking for?

Good, because I said it unironically.

[arendt]

64. Democrats used to believe in the process...

just like everything else, we don't need no steenkin rules. We don need nobody messin with La Jefe.

Why don't you wait about two years before you start dictating how I should vote.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

103. I guess we know who you're voting for. nt

[mainstreetonce]

32. Cory Booker

...

[jberryhill]

36. Dick Cheney

Because unlike Kissinger, he's only MOSTLY dead.

[AtomicKitten]

87. Ebola.

[peacebird]

37. Hopefully she won't get the nomination so this won't matter....

[bigwillq]

40. That's my hope as well (nt)

[AngryOldDem]

98. +1.

I truly hate the anointing of certain people two years before the election.

[pscot]

135. If that were to happen

One of the people mentioned in this thread would have to step up big time. But who? The bench looks a little thin.

[Smarmie Doofus]

39. Jeb Bush. She likes him and they are basically philosophically aligned.

A smidgeon of a difference here and there to appeal to this segment of the center-right electorate or that.

[PowerToThePeople]

41. Whatever you write-in

Because, she will not be on the ticket except for write-ins

[SheilaT]

42. Oooh! She's already got enough delegates that she has the nomination sewn up?

Great! That will sure save a lot of money that can now be spent in the general election.

[arendt]

63. Didn't Chuckie Todd give you the message? :-) n/t

[SheilaT]

69. No. I only see him if he's on Rachel Maddow,

and sometimes I'll skip a segment he's on.

Rachel is the closest thing to mainstream media that I watch. So I miss a lot.

[Pisces]

43. She won't be able to pick a VP if she continues to have her surrogates bash Obama and she

runs and anti-Obama campaign. She will lose and give up the biggest lead any democrat has ever seen. I hope she changes
her tune.

[yurbud]

49. Let me guess. .. She's bashing Obama for not being far enough to the right?

[truebluegreen]

117. Not enough of a hawk, so far. nt

[yurbud]

130. like I said, not far enough to the right

[truebluegreen]

151. yup.

[amandabeech]

44. Someone who can step up and run the country in the event that something should happen to

Sec. Clinton.

Sec. Castro may be a great future prospect, but I would rather see someone with more experience than Sec. Castro will have in 2016.

Folks have mentioned Brown, Wyden and Manchin. I like Brown & Wyden, and I could handle Manchin, even though he is on the conservative side of our party.

[BlueStater]

45. Ew.

[bigwillq]

46. Ew would proabably be a good choice.

[Peregrine]

47. Paul Krugman nt

[yurbud]

48. Goldman Sachs gets to decide not us

[Erose999]

110. +1

[Corruption Inc]

51. A kitty cat!

It's the most popular living thing here.

[LawDeeDah]

54. Hank Kissinger.

[arendt]

66. Beat me to it. n/t

[Proud Public Servant]

59. Serious prediction - Steve Beshear

Hillary doesn't need to court Blacks, Latinos, or progressives; they'll turn out. Her biggest problems are:

1) White guys, especially rural and working-class white guys, don't really like her;
2) She's completely a creature of DC with no "real America" cred; and
3) She's never actually run anything (and no, the State Department doesn't count).

Beshear provides cover on all three of those fronts, and comes with the added bonus of having presided over probably the most successful Obamacare implementation in the country.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

80. Agree 100%

Beshear helps in a state Dems should be able to win, and that has been a model of how to do an ACA rollout.

Before Ferguson, I'd have said Jay Nixon. Now, I think he's damaged goods.

If he's elected, I'd lay an outside shot that she selects Charlie Crist. Not a thought that thrills me, but Florida has to be won.

[whatthehey]

107. Like the idea, but two issues

Limited national visibility. It would be, on that front and that front alone, a Palinesque pick. Anyone outside the region who is not a political junkie would start with "Who...?"

From what I've seen DU is, at its most vocal core anyway, far to the left of the mainstreeam party voters so this would really only be a problem for the DU part of the spectrum, but that's not a trivial number even in the wider electorate, and he would only add to the left's disgruntlement with HRC albeit on different issues than her. McKinney he is not. Folks like Schweitzer and Manchin who would serve similar roles for your same stated reasons would have the same drawbacks. A more progressive from the gut backstop might help soothe the grumbles there. I doubt he has the internal seniority, but I'd be curious how Franken would do in that attack dog/surrogate role.

[Proud Public Servant]

113. A nationally-known veep is a new phenomenon

Historically, veep picks have not been national names: Lieberman, Gore, Bentsen, Ferraro, Mondale, Eagleton, Shriver, Muskie; or Quayle, Dole, Agnew -- none of them were nationally-known politicians before being selected as veep candidates. I don't think that's as much as issue as you imagine. Plus, in the age of the internet and 24-hour news cycles, "who?' doesn't remain a question for very long.

And while I take your point about how disappointed DU will be if a progressive isn't on the ticket, I suspect Hillary's folks will do (or are already doing) the math not on general support (which doesn't much matter) but on support gained and lost in swing states (which is all that does). Given that the GOP will no doubt spend a fortune casting her as a socialist creature of Washington, her challenge is going to be appealing to undecided white moderates; Franken doesn't help there (much as I like the guy) but a successful Dem governor does.

[antiquie]

105. Good guy, too old.

Hillary is old, like me. Veep needs to be younger, along with all of the other needs-to-be.

[hrmjustin]

60. Sherrod Brown.

[pscot]

97. My favorite

[jen63]

148. Would love to see Sherrod Brown.

He's young enough, down homey enough and progressive enough. I'd love to see him run for POTUS. Plus his wife is a powerhouse in her own right.

[arendt]

61. Joe Lieberman - another crypto-neocon

Hillary will either lose the primary or lose the general.

She is busy trashing a sitting president who bent over backwards to conciliate her.

She is toasting herself.

[LawDeeDah]

95. or Zell Miller

I bet he would be cool with that.

[Dirty Socialist]

62. Robert Reich

Great thinker and great ideas. Also, He would do well with Republicans in congress. He has experience dealing with bullies.

[whatthehey]

108. Now that's an intriguing name

All the smarts and vision he could need, but not really a politician per se. That's a two edged sword. Can sell the outsider schtick but can he really do a national campaign well?

[Mister Nightowl]

70. Cory Booker

The Hudson River Ticket.

[tularetom]

71. Gen. David Petraeus

She needs to show republican voters she isn't a wuss like Obama. That way she can appeal to her core constituency, moderate republicans. The Dems? Screw them, they got no other choice. What are they gonna do, vote for Ted Cruz?

[LawDeeDah]

72. My heart

just skipped a beat.

That is so very likely...
Betrayus and Clinton, what a perfect team.

[cali]

88. stay at home. n/t

[First Speaker]

78. Dick Blumenthal

...unlikely to be picked, but I wish she would. He's a very impressive figure...

[still_one]

79. Sarah Palin

[tazkcmo]

82. Does it matter?

She's inevitable.

[MannyGoldstein]

83. Marie Antoinette

Someone that understands where Hillary's coming from, but who can recognize and rein in her difficulties with empathy.

[MFM008]

84. Castro

The woman/ huge Latino wave election.

[mr_liberal]

85. Julian Castro or Jim Webb. eom

[ffr]

86. NO! Vote in 2014, three weeks from now. Duh!

If you don't get off your dead ass and get people to the polls, 2016 won't matter!!!

[truebluegreen]

118. Oh please. It's not the people here who would stay home.

[longship]

89. How about we first pick a POTUS candidate?

I do not like the idea of HRC as a president. She has a whole lot of baggage, much of it bad.

I do not object to her being a 2016 candidate as much as I object to her being THE candidate. Especially since she has not expressed her intent to running for the office. Plus, there's the deal where I do not like her politics. Not at all.

[LWolf]

91. Palin. nt

[FreeJoe]

92. I think she should pick a Democrat...

...to balance the ticket.

[truebluegreen]

119. Heh. Good one.

[99Forever]

102. No.

[gopiscrap]

104. I could see Brown or else Sanders

[Zorra]

106. Maybe she'll choose Henry Kissinger if she is nominated. nt

[Katashi_itto]

111. Darth Vader. He would improve her public image.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

112. Some corporation, since they're now people, and get her orders directly.

Preferably from the MIC.

[LawDeeDah]

114. Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman or John McCain

[cascadiance]

131. McCain probably would look for her pick if Rand Paul runs for the Republicans

Since he likes her more than he likes Rand...

[truebluegreen]

115. Somebody else at the top is who I would like to see. nt

[fadedrose]

127. Eric Cantor is available

[truebluegreen]

152. Interesting.

Black-white thinking is generally something I associate with RWNJs.

[fadedrose]

153. No comprende

Don't know what black-white thinking is, so I never associate it with anything.

I also don't know what RWNJs stands for. I get the feeling I was insulted, but it's pretty hard to insult somebody who doesn't understand the insults.

Unless it was complimentary - In which case, I say, 'Thank You."

[truebluegreen]

154. Black/white thinking is either/or thinking. Only two possibilities, for us or against us, etc.

I don't like Clinton so you feel free to imply that I would like Eric Cantor? That's black/white thinking, and insulting.

And RWNJ = Right Wing Nut Job, a type of individual that does typically see the world in black and white.

You're welcome.

[merrily]

116. I'm hoping she never needs one. We need a primary before we need a VP!

[yurbud]

132. no kidding. There's still a chance to get a Democratic nominee for the Democratic Party

We don't need to start picking the VP for a moderate Republican one.

[KentuckyWoman]

120. LOL - Reading the thread it looks like whack a mole.

I'm more concerned with November at the moment.

Ditch Mitch.

[pscot]

134. Agreed

About Mitch as well.

[TheKentuckian]

121. I don't give a single fuck who her hood ornament is.

[Ichingcarpenter]

123. Kai Winn (Character) from "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine"

Hillary's twin sister.

[Motown_Johnny]

136. She would stage a coup

Kira would be a much better choice.

[Ichingcarpenter]

140. The Clintons are really secret Ferengi anyway

with their ties to the banksters so why not
Quark?

[backscatter712]

139. I'd probably get in trouble for posting that Nurse Ratched Hillary pic the right-wingers love...

...but it seems strangely appropriate as a reply here.

[Rhinodawg]

124. Bill Clinton...2 for price of one.

[KamaAina]

125. We have to pick a nominee first

[shenmue]

126. John Conyers

[bravenak]

129. Bill Clinton.

They like spending time together.

[Stellar]

145. Yep, two for the price of one?

[bravenak]

146. I am trying to be nice.

[sadoldgirl]

137. Adelson or Romney

[backscatter712]

138. She'll probably pick Rahm Emanuel.

What, you really think she'd pick someone that isn't a DINO?

[IDemo]

141. DU server overload

which on second thought will likely happen regardless of who she picks...

[Stellar]

144. Yes, he's worn out his welcome here.

She can have Rahm.

[Tweedy]

143. Too early

We have a very important election in a few weeks. This is where we should be focusing.

[HuckleB]

147. Brown is possible. Wyden is more valuable in the Senate.

I think she should take Oregon Governor Kitzhaber. Both of them have dealt with spouses with ethical lapses, so they'd be a great team. And the jeans Governor might just bring in some extra votes.

[hobbit709]

149. A Walton family member.

[pscot]

150. Advisory Council

It'll be a kind of medieval arrangement.

[GoneOffShore]

157. How about somebody from the Monsanto board?

They'd fit right in.

[Rowdyboy]

158. Someone unmentioned so far. Maybe Sen Martin Heinrich or Brian Schatz of Hawaii....

Someone young, reasonably progressive with potential to be a force in the future.