Ferguson - WalMarts' fear of black people resulted in their closing today.

[Live and Learn]

Protestors had planned a brief flash mob event but WalMart panicked when they saw some people congregating outside, barricaded the doors and called police. The result was a long stand off, lots of supporters honking in approval, the shut down of WalMart for the night and calls for a boycott on WalMart.

Good going WalMart, you screwed yourself.

[Travis_0004]

1. Given the fact that that Walmart was looted once in the Ferguson riots I don't blame them

[irisblue]

6. the store was looted? never mind googled it

pillows and cookies? the loot

[cstanleytech]

12. Looting is looting no matter what was taken but regardless whats sad

about the looting isnt what was stolen but rather the impact its going to have on the people as a whole who live there.
That impact being that some of the businesses have already decided to close up for good which means fewer jobs for the people who live there and all because a few assholes decided the way to bring change was to riot and loot.

[Louisiana1976]

121. Exactly. The closing of the businesses is bad for the community because of the jobs that are lost.

[demosincebirth]

127. I agree. Some just have tunnel vision.

[whereisjustice]

129. shooting an unarmed black man is murder no matter... perhaps if these global

corporations who forced small businesses to shutdown would have spoken out about the injustice, they wouldn't need to be so worried about justice being taken into the people's hands. At some point the pressure from disparity becomes so great, people will look for justice any way they can get it.

The political world is pretending Ferguson doesn't exist. That is just going to make things worse.

[cstanleytech]

130. How the hell does the shooting justify looting be it the looting of walmart or the looting of

a small and pop store and what exactly does the looting and rioting accomplish in your opinion in bringing justice in the shooting death of Michael Brown?

[whereisjustice]

132. how does shooting an unarmed black man who stole some $1 cigars, left to rot

in the street in a community subjected to years of abuse at the hands of their local government lead to a few people taking their revenge on a Walmart?

Only a privileged, entitled person would ask such a question.

History has shown, without exception, there is only one possible outcome to systemic oppression, corruption and abuse of the majority by a privileged minority.

The more corruption and abuse, the more the police will militarize to protect the institutions engaging in corruption and abuse.

[cstanleytech]

133. What does walmart or any of the businesses in the area that were looted and robbed

have to do with the way the police treated the people? I mean come on make some sense.

[whereisjustice]

134. there is no better symbol of oppression and corruption than Walmart's influence

over our political process. And the same political process betrayed these people. And your questions betray how comfortable with your entitlements over the people of Ferguson.

[cstanleytech]

137. Now your sounding like Orly Taitz. nt

[whereisjustice]

144. Fox News is over on the right, your wasting you're time here. nt

[cstanleytech]

145. No, just wasting it with you. nt

[840high]

18. What? You approve of stealing?

[RichGirl]

41. Oh you're worried about stealing from Walmart!!!!! Now that's a joke!

It's Walmart that is stealing from us. They pay full time employees minimum wage. These people have families to support and make so little money that they qualify for SNAP, housing supplements, etc. And who do you think pays for that?? WE DO!! They make three billion a year profit and a billion of it is our money. By all rights... if you are a tax payer and your taxes are helping Walmart pay their employees...you should be entitled to take some of their cheap crap every now and then!


Walmart heirs worth as much as bottom 41.5% of American families


http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/18/business/la-fi-mo-walmart-heirs-20120718

[Live and Learn]

43. +1 nt

[840high]

49. When people steal - who do you think is charged

more because of that? So you don't mind if poor people who shop at Walmart have to pay more?

[Live and Learn]

56. And who is charged when corporations steal?

The same people. Personally, I'd rather pay the little bit that the shoplifters steal than the mega dollars the corporations steal but the fact is we pay both.

[cstanleytech]

64. Thats a downright silly viewpoint imo.

Stealing is stealing and just because walmart pays their employees shit for a wage doesnt give people a license to loot and steal from walmart.
You want walmart to pay a better livable wage? Great so do I but stealing isnt going to get that to happen.

[Live and Learn]

65. The silly viewpoint in my opinion is thinking that petty thieves

(that are generally stealing to survive) are more harmful than the corporations that are stealing millions (or billions) by not paying employees, ripping off consumers, and using (abusing) cheap labor overseas (or here).

I remember when England accused Irish citizens of stealing and shipped them abroad for stealing potatoes form lands stolen from by the English so they could survive,

With your 'silly viewpoint' we could soon be headed for the same.

[DrDan]

68. ridiculous

are they breaking laws? I do not shop there by the way. I don't like their practices. BUT, that does not give ANYONE the right to steal - regardless of how cheap the crap is that was stolen.

How about going after the legislators that are willing to set these wages so low. They are the ones to blame - not those that are greedy enough to profit from these laws. Greed is not against the law.

[Live and Learn]

78. Really,? You can't see the huge difference between a person

stealing out of necessity and those stealing from greed? In fact, you think greed is an okay reason to steal? Funny, I think the opposite.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

96. Who is stealing out of necessity?

How many people died of STARVATION in the Irish potato famine mentioned above?

How many people have died of STARVATION here because they are poor and life is unnecessarily hard? That still doesn't give anyone the right to steal, and that attitude might very well doom them to a continued life of poverty after they have an established criminal record.

[DrDan]

114. looting is "stealing out of necessity"????????? and

where did I EVER say "greed is an okay reason to steal"????

Walmart practices may be based on the greed of the family. That does not mean they are stealing.

I am not defending their practices, but I will not label those practices as illegal as several here are doing.

[Beartracks]

126. True that. The problem is precisely that Wal-Mart's biz model is NOT illegal.

Capitalism by nature means companies (and those who profit from them) will always do what they are allowed to get away with.

*Allowed.*

=====================================

[marions ghost]

85. ++++

[Oktober]

120. So yes... Theft is ok if you don't like the person or group you are robbing....

Classy...

[Supersedeas]

139. Who's fooling who?

[ZombieHorde]

47. Many DUers are openly into thievery.

Many will admit to illegally downloading music and movies.

[840high]

50. I've noticed. Shame.

[Live and Learn]

57. Really? Many?

I assume you have proof of that and will post it shortly. And please don't let it be just a few because I could post a few that suggest racism and fascism on DU too. But those would be very few.

[ZombieHorde]

59. I can't find the old poll I made about illegal downloads, so I made a new one.

Let's see how DUers vote. Maybe there will even be an interesting discussion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025662965

[Live and Learn]

60. Let me help you out with this.

After years of being ripped off by music companies by making one purchase albums full of garbage to get a few hit songs on medium that didn't last. I guess that some might have felt they were entitled to get a few songs for free. And the youth, they just thought it was free, because it was on the sites.

So what? It was quickly taken care of and was no more harmful than copying tapes or music one the radio were in the my days (which was quite legal). In fact, I believe artists profit due to the free exposure. We all spend plenty on music and movies and there really isn't much more they could get regardless.

Now, how about they repay me for all the inferior products they have sold me over the years that were either worthless to begin with or failed to perform after a few plays? Who's stealing from whom? And who's protecting whom?

[dumbcat]

102. There are many rationalizations for theft

and many thieves will spout them.

It's still stealing.

[ZombieHorde]

136. OK.

In your opinion, does the poll count as "proof?" It's the best evidence I have that many DUers will admit to illegally downloading music and movies.

[ZombieHorde]

119. Currently,

49 DUers have said illegal downloads are not immoral. I don't know your personal threshold for "many DUers," but I hope you find the poll results interesting.

[Bluenorthwest]

90. Yep

nt

[yesiwasacop]

51. heres a link

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/11/looting-reported-at-ferguson-walmart/13884055/

[leftyladyfrommo]

97. I don't think it was fear of black people.

I think it was fear of a mob getting out of control. And that can happen really, really fast.

If I had a store and it looked like trouble was starting outside I would close everything up, too.

[otohara]

117. Yet Every November The Day After Thanksgiving MOBS Line Up

and the mob is invited into Walmart.

People and employees are injured, looting occurs and employees risk their lives, remembering that one was killed by their invited mobs.

I would love to see this practice closed down - how about you?

[otohara]

116. Walmart Black Friday's = Death Traps

think any looting goes on during the annual chaos?


RIP Jdimytai Damour Walmart employee for a few days until he was trampled to death and died by asphyxiation.

[Supersedeas]

140. and where do they get these labels

[otohara]

143. Redskins Perhaps?

you'd think being around Christmas they'd call it White Friday's to conjure up visions of snow instead of death.

[NaturalHigh]

3. Where did those pictures come from?

First I've seen them.

[Drayden]

4. Of course they did

If I had a heads up a "flash mob" intended to hit my store I would protect my staff and store and self and close too. And if they didn't and someone was hurt, people would be posting Walmart's greed kept the store open and put the workers at risk.

[AgingAmerican]

7. Doubtful on your last point

nt

[joeglow3]

9. I see you are new to DU

I am no fan of Walmart, but I also can see the level irrational behavior that hatred can elicit in people. If facts played out as laid out above, I would bet my life savings people would claim exactly what was posted.

[Brigid]

79. I think you're right.

That is why I reluctantly side with Wal-Mart on this one.

[hughee99]

44. You doubt that? Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if they got looted and made their employees

pay for the stuff that was taken.

[Live and Learn]

58. Now that I would believe. nt

[Supersedeas]

141. the sad thing is that someone has to pay

[RedCappedBandit]

8. I hate Walmart and am 100% with the protesters.

That said, I honestly would close my store if I heard there would be a flash mob. Fuck that.

[cwydro]

11. Me too.

There was another flash mob in another Wal-Mart somewhere other than Ferguson as well I think. Last year sometime. Can't be bothered to look it up, but pretty sure it won't be hard to find.

Lots of looting. Sorry, but looting a retail store is in no way a legitimate protest. I don't care what color the looters are.

Come on folks.

[RichGirl]

42. Honestly....I don't understand attitudes here.

Anyone with a fraction of a heart would be on the side of the protesters in this case. If I were manager of Walmart or any other business I'd haul out drinks and snacks for the crowd. Even when tension rises...it can be soothed with kindness.

Their was a flash mob in a concert hall. They weren't happy with it but didn't run like scared rats either.

[Live and Learn]

54. +1 nt

[RedCappedBandit]

61. That was a beautifully done protest, hardly what comes to mind

when the term flash mob is used. A large crowd inside a box store is different from a few protesters singing in a concert hall.

I'd support the protesters in whatever way I could - that doesn't mean I'd want the protest to be held *inside* my store. Considering they've already been robbed I don't blame them. "Scared rats"

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

84. These so-called "flash mobs"

can get out of control. Besides stealing a few cookies, they sometimes start throwing stuff off the shelves and generally wreck the place creating more work for the employees. Youtube it if you doubt it.

I would have locked the doors, as well. I'm pretty sure that none of those employees wanted to clean up after that mob if it hadn't gotten out of control.

[otohara]

92. Sounds Like So-Called Black Friday

No need to YouTube, every year welcomed chaos for the employees to deal with and hope they don't get killed or injured.

[JTFrog]

104. Best reply in the thread.

Thank you.

[yesiwasacop]

52. agreed

they didnt shoot anyone so why do they need to pay the price for this?

[Live and Learn]

53. What? We all need to pay a price for this.

We are all responsible for allowing this chit to continue. And WalMart has a lot of responsibility for the policies in place since they pay to get the policies in place.

I didn't start this thread as a bash WalMart thread. Just said they screwed themselves tonight. Any money they lost was due to their own paranoia. Maybe their paranoia is justified with the way they treat communities and their employees but tonight nothing would have happened.

But, I sincerely hope it hurt them to close early. No corporation deserves it more than WalMart (unless it is a Koch Bros corporation)!

[joeglow3]

87. "Tonight nothing would have happened."

How can you make that claim?

[GP6971]

10. Would they close the store

if it was a white crowd?

[cstanleytech]

14. I am going to say yes they probably would if they thought there was a decent change of looting and I

wouldnt blame them in the least.
Not that I am a fan of walmart as they provide poverty level wages and or hours to many of their employees and imo thats unethical of them.
In fact they could easily afford to pay most of their employees 30k or so a year and it would only take roughly 35 billion off their 140ish billion in profits a year.

[GP6971]

20. I agree......

I'm of the belief that Walmart is a large leach.......one so large that no regularity agency would ever challenge them. I personally saw what they did to major vendors.......Walmart had full time employees stationed at major vendors like P&G......demanding the lowest price for them or they threatened to not supply their products in their stores. In many ways, it worked......the vendors were cowered......by what? Greed. Call me surprised.

[Live and Learn]

55. There have been many protests and Flash Mobs

held at WalMart and it never shut one down before.

It wasn't the intent here either but sometimes things work out even better than planned.

It couldn't happen to a more deserving corporation.

[cstanleytech]

62. Yes except in this case if as the op claimed it happened in Ferguson they

are having problems with such mobs suddenly turning violent and then looting so I completely understand why walmart might have made such a decision to close until the mob dispersed in that case.
And while I completely disagree with walmarts business practices that doesnt give people a license to riot and loot.

[Live and Learn]

66. I was the OP and claimed no such thing. nt

[cstanleytech]

131. Actually you did. "Ferguson - WalMarts' fear of black people resulted in their closing today."

So was it or was it not in Ferguson?

[Supersedeas]

94. well the chance of looting did not decrease with this latest move

[840high]

19. Yes - if they expected looting.

[uponit7771]

123. wow... what if they expected gun fire?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. Not even if they are carrying assault rifles.

[Live and Learn]

34. +1 nt

[Paladin]

106. +100. Open Carry=The ultimate white privilege.

[uponit7771]

122. +1, I've seen those pictures of 10 - 20 carry guns too

[NOLALady]

80. Doubt it.

Flash Mob= Flash Mob.

POC Flash Mob = Looters.

Amazing how many of the replies are so certain that the hordes are simply looking for an excuse to rob Wal Mart of their cheap crap!

[LeftyMom]

13. It's really sad (and by sad I mean probably racist) that DUers assume a protest means looting.

This place sometimes. *shakes head sadly*

[Live and Learn]

15. Agreed. nt

[Nye Bevan]

16. Looting took place last time around.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/11/looting-reported-at-ferguson-walmart/13884055/

Better safe than sorry.

[Live and Learn]

35. Completely different circumstances but I guess that doesn't matter to you. nt

[joeglow3]

88. Can you explain how the circumstances are completely different?

[Live and Learn]

93. These were planned, organized protests over the holiday weekend.

The one you are referring to was an unplanned emotional protest with many young unguided individuals.

Heck, lots of us react with violence in anger. Young men in particular respond in unhealthy ways. Perhaps you think they deserved to be shot too?

[joeglow3]

107. Drama much.

Where did I say a thing about people deserving to be shot?

However, I think you know that that is a defense mechanism and you employed it for a reason.

[hughee99]

46. Is it DUers that are assuming protest means looting, or that DUers assume WALMART thinks

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that protest means looting?

[Inkfreak]

63. Either way, fingers will be pointed. Assumptions made. (nt)

[hughee99]

74. Yes, but as the post is basically calling out DUers as racists, it does matter.

If DUer's think that protest means looting, that should be a giant red flag. If DUer's are assuming that Walmart executives will think protest means looting, then DUer's think Walmart executives are racists, and that's not the same thing.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

101. No, it's not a red flag

It means that bad apples take advantage of protests. All over the world - consider the protests against the IMF and WTO, just for two examples.

[hughee99]

103. It is a red flag if it's gotten to the point that

Even DUers automatically equate protests and looting

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

109. I don't think most of us do

But I do know that there was a lot of destruction and/or looting when the protests started and no business owner around there is going to forget that. It's just too easy for a couple of bad apples to get involved.

[Rex]

112. I agree, a flash mob does not instantly mean robbing and looting.

As a matter of fact, flash mobs are more on the performing arts side of things...but typical for many to think they will loot and pillage. Sad, but predictable.

[morningfog]

17. Walmart is as much a symbol of the state as the cops.

So they were looted last time? So they fear a flash mob of angry black people will loot again? Awww.

Watch how quick the cops come to walmart's protection.

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. ...

[Nye Bevan]

25. No it's not. It's a store.

Why not protest the police outside the police station? Is it because Walmart greeters are softer targets than cops?

[Live and Learn]

27. A store? No, it is a mega-corporation without any morals

bent on destroying all competition (and employee morale).

[morningfog]

28. It is a symbol of the state.

If by "softer target" you mean less likely to kill you, perhaps. But the cops, who have a monopoly on the use of force will meet you anywhere you want, especially at a wall mart. So, as a target, it's a double whammy.

[Nye Bevan]

31. How about a Target? A Costco? An Apple Store? A Sears? All legitimate targets,

as "symbols of the state"? Is there a list somewhere of which businesses are "symbols of the state"?

[riverwalker]

39. John Crawford

Walmart was the scene of John Crawford toy gun shooting, obstructed family's efforts to get tape released.

[Feral Child]

70. If you can't understand why Walmart

is a symbol of the destruction caused by Corporate Capitalism, or the relationship of Capital Corporatism with a militarized police apparatus, then I'd suggest you listen more and talk less.

[Euphoria]

73. +1. nt

[annm4peace]

21. shutting down another Walmart.

live stream of protesters at doors of Walmart. Cops protecting Walmart.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/53930829

they have some great and powerful chants.

I didn't see any of this coverend in the news.. have to keep finding live streams from citizen activists.

[madville]

23. The store has a duty to protect

The store has a duty to protect it's customers, employees, and property. If they had forewarning that a mob of potential looters was planning on targeting their location they would be negligent to not close and secure the store.

[Live and Learn]

29. WalMart protecting their employees and customers?

That was a joke, right?

[madville]

36. I said they have "a duty to protect"

What their priorities are may differ. From a liability standpoint, they are pretty much compelled to close the store in that situation if they have knowledge of a possible event.

[Feral Child]

69. I bet *that's* exactly what they were thinking:

"Got to protect the employees, better close down because we owe it to our employees."

[NOLALady]

83. I thought it was a flash mob.

Evidently, I was mistaken. I see that it was a Looters Mob.

My Bad!

[otohara]

111. Like They Do On Annual Black Friday?

Maybe you forgot a worker was killed and the billionaire Walmart family refused to pay an OSHA fine for the man's death.

Walmart welcomes their annual mobs and could give a shit about their employees or those who choose to shop there.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

26. An organized flash mob doing a publicity stunt is likely NOT going to do anything criminal.

[Live and Learn]

32. They have had thousands protesting all weekend

and not one incident at all (ignore the Police Chief's lies that are easily diss-proven by watching the streams).

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. I watched some of the live streams. "Bless you for staying open." then a plug for Mountain Dew.

[jwirr]

30. I hope they lost a lot of money for this little stunt.

[Live and Learn]

33. Yep, and that makes it a win for the weekend. nt

[riverwalker]

37. 3 of them

they made 3 shut down, bet that cost a few dollars revenue.

[riverwalker]

40. they are keeping them very busy

Walmarts, the stadium NFL game, the Kwik Trips, City Hall, they listen to the scanners and keeping the police on their toes. They are going to wear them out.

[TeeYiYi]

45. Motherfuckers!!!...

I HATE Walmart but I've been giving them my business in a small central Utah town for the past 3 years; after moving to a small farming town that's 10 miles from its closest neighbor.

My teensy town has no grocery stores. The next town over has two food options; one of them being Walmart.

Between prescriptions, groceries and other bullshit, Walmart has received literally THOUSANDS; well over $5000+ per/yr. since I relocated, 3 years ago.

FUCK THEM!... Fuck you, Walmart! I have options! I can shop in northern Utah for the bulk of my food and pick up stray items from one of the other regional grocery stores. It's easy to move my prescriptions.

I am so motherfucking SICK and TIRED of the militarized police state that the United States has become. I am so heartsick, watching the asshole, militarized thug police... murder and disenfranchise my black brothers and sisters with impunity. I am thoroughly disgusted with the continued baton beating, white asshat, mace spraying, tear gas cannister throwing cowards in riot gear that are 'serving and protecting' the citizens of St. Louis, Missouri.

They lie! They obfuscate! They plant evidence! They reinvent history! They tell me that my 'lying eyes' are not seeing what I thought I saw... They're murdering young black boys in Missouri and killing the souls of African American children for generations to come.

The world is watching, St. Louis!... Ferguson!... Shaw!!!... We're watching and you're not as clever as you may have thought you once were,... once upon a time. You can't hide your racist bullshit any longer. THE WORLD IS WATCHING! The world is recording you and social media is just the disinfectant that your kabuki theatre requires.

I'M SICK OF IT! I've been sleep deprived, watching the live streams from St. Louis all weekend. The level of my disgust in the recent months but especially this weekend, has been steadily rising to a boiling point. I wanted to do something but, besides solidarity, I didn't know what I could do to put my money where my mouth is.

I wasn't home today, so this is the first I'm hearing about what happened at Walmart today... Well, boycotting Walmart is a boycott where I can make a huge difference; a boycott that will actually hurt the company I'm boycotting.

Walmart, you should've stood with the citizens of Missouri. ALL OF THE CITIZENS! Not just the white, 'corporations are people too' citizens. You're now, officially, so fucking transparent! Well, thank you for peeling the scales from my eyes...

Fuck you Walmart! There are parents burying their children in Ferguson and Shaw, and you locked your doors!...and call the PO..LEECE!!! ... Fuck you, you chickenshit, racist, narrow minded, tunnel vision, piece of shit, motherfucking sons of bitches! You just lost my business!... I'm done with you! I'm taking my money, over $5000/yr. and moving it elsewhere.

You made your choice...

I'm making mine!

BLACK LIVES MATTER!



TYY _{(Fully aware that I've exceeded my CAPS and exclamation point quota for the foreseeable future...)}

[ZombieHorde]

48. Ha! nt

[logosoco]

67. The occupy movement was a nudge.

These protesters are pushing.

This is what needs to happen in this country. The 1% has been getting away with too much. Keeping the 99% fighting among themselves is their goal. It has been successful so far. It is getting old. These protests need to happen. These folks are sick of the police, who are only working for the benefits of the 1% and they don't care anymore who they hurt or kill.

If people had a living wage, they most likely would not shoplift or rob. If we end the war on drugs, I imagine most of the gang fighting would stop. The cops would have much less reason to stop and harass people.

I don't believe the protesters were going to loot Walmart. I think this group did a good job of making them scared, and they should know fear, like most of the populations of many communities in this country feel every time they go outside or worry about making the rent on low wage jobs.

To me, the people right now who are saying the protester are wrong are the ones who are saying they want to keep the status quo. I think the status quo has got to go.

[Live and Learn]

76. Yes, Occupy never died, contrary to what many here think.

It morphed and got in to the souls of many still waiting for the right time. Is this it, time will tell. But (based on reactions here), I'm betting it will take much more. It will come, eventually unless big changes or climate change does us in sooner.

[Feral Child]

71. Excellent!

They're doing it right.

REC, of course.

[Live and Learn]

81. Now that is a (welcome) surprise. nt

[NCTraveler]

72. On rare occassion even the most fucked up of places can make a good decision.

Good on Walmart for this. They still suck. Guarantee that no one giving them crap for this has ever been a business owner or been responsible for the safety of a large group of people.

[Live and Learn]

75. Yep, good on WalMart for protecting their valuable (cheap, chit)

from protestors that had no friggen interest in it to begin with. Shut your own chit down, WalMart and thanks.

Are you seriously crediting WalMart for protecting a large group of people?

[NCTraveler]

118. I am clearly saying....

that any business this happened to would only have one move. That move is to temporarily shut their doors. It is in the best interests of every single person involved. Every single one. Not sure what you take issue with. It is pretty basic common sense.

[840high]

124. Thank you.

[Rolo]

77. I don't condone looting or violence, but

I understand the frustration. And they are making Walmart listen by hurting them where it counts - their bottom line. (Closing a store costs a ton - more than looting)

I see these people following an American tradition. Do any of you think it was wrong to dump that tea @ the (original) Boston Tea Party that cost England a lot? It's called rebelling against injustice.

[Live and Learn]

82. Very nice sentiments but keep in mind,

that the intent of the protest was never to any of the above. Just to be a brief Flash Mob incident to bring attention to the movement. WalMart brought the closures upon themselves.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

86. You do not know the intent of every individual in that group

There's been a lot of looting and destruction during many of these protests, and it only takes a tiny fraction of people to create havoc. Yes, I know the majority of those folks would have taken nothing and destroyed nothing, since they are just folks protesting an injustice.

If I were the manager, I would have still closed, since these things can get out of hand very quickly. Just two or three people can throw stuff off of shelves, destroy pricey electronics, and scare the employees.

[Live and Learn]

95. There has not. All of it has been Live Streamed.

Show me these incidents that were related to the protests.

By the way, I don't know the intent of every individual anywhere I go.

Should I hide in cowardice or shoot them all in self defense just in case?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

98. HUH? There was plenty of destruction when protests started in Ferguson

You know...a couple of bad apples and all that?

[Live and Learn]

99. Oh, you mean the cops. Yes, they have been

caught acting badly at every single protest. Thanks for pointing that out. Plenty of video evidence on that.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

100. Really? Are you going to deny what happened?

So quickly forgotten? I can assure you that no small or large business owner has forgotten.

If you want to have a conversation about the police brutality, that is another topic that needs to be addressed locally and nationally, imo.

Meanwhile, we yak here.

[joeglow3]

108. Seriously, one has to TRY to be that obtuse

I have yet to see a DU user (who is not a mole) claim the police have not overstepped their bounds. However, for some reason, there are some who seem unable to acknowledge poor behavior that has taken place by a small number of protesters. We all saw what happened to a lot of businesses and I did not see the police tearing those places up.

[otohara]

142. Scary Flash Mob in Detroit Walmart

ohhhh.... close the doors, oh wait it's Black Friday

[NaturalHigh]

125. Tell that to the Quiktrip employees.

That store is still closed after being looted and set on fire, I believe.

[joeglow3]

89. How come these clashes only happen at night?

There are protests round the clock and I have not heard of anything like this during the day.

[Live and Learn]

91. These have been round the clock for the entire weekend.

The first WalMart incident (the subject of this post) was held during the day. There were many protests held during the daylight hours,

I have been to night time protests. They were usually candlelight anti-war protests. Does the Constitution put a time frame on our right of protest?

Shame on all of you trying to make excuses to demonize these protestors.

[joeglow3]

105. All I did was notice a trend. NO shame in that.

I did not assign blame to anyone (police or the protesters). I did not say the Constitution put any limits on it. I merely pointed out that while the protests have been going on around the clock, the VAST majority of the problems are at night.

Shame on you for shoving words in my mouth and then trying to condemn me for those made-up words.

[gopiscrap]

110. Fucking Wal Mart, they deserve it!

[Rex]

113. Wal Mart is what is wrong with America.

A stunning example of a horrible corporation having way too much control.

[strawberries]

115. so can the white protestors get in? nt

[cstanleytech]

128. I doubt it since closed usually means closed. nt

[strawberries]

138. oh so it is closed to all

not just black. Okay sorry the OPs title thru me off

[whereisjustice]

135. Police brutality is so bad in Ferguson the United Nations has made a point of protesting it...

just how much abuse and corruption should people withstand at the hands of their Government before they start fighting back against the very institutions, like Walmart, whose millions of campaign contributions line the pockets of politicians?

I'm wondering. Should they wait until at least 10 people are left dead in the street? 100? More?

Should they stay peaceful as long as police beat them in places where bruises and scars won't show very easily?

Should they stay peaceful even as millions of dollars in bullshit fines and fees are rendered against people to poor to afford legal defense?

Just wondering, seeing as we have so many law and order types "shocked" that Walmart might be used as a symbol of a town's discontent.