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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:26 PM Oct 2014

I actually know people who defend hazing as a good thing

They'll say that hazing builds character, makes a boy a man, builds groups solidarity.

And there are sorority girls who defend it too for similar reasons.

Of course, hazing is never equal. It's always the kid who is smaller, nerdier and most socially awkward who gets hazed the worst.

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I actually know people who defend hazing as a good thing (Original Post) bluestateguy Oct 2014 OP
Our society tacitly endorses bullying, supremacy and beating down the little guy. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #1
I am sure my sociopathic brother with a mean streak would endorse and say the same thing. seabeyond Oct 2014 #2
What I can't fathom is.... Smarmie Doofus Oct 2014 #3
Had an intern here were I work... Javaman Oct 2014 #4
Not sure it builds character but it's often employed by groups as "rite of passage" HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #5
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Our society tacitly endorses bullying, supremacy and beating down the little guy.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 10:33 PM
Oct 2014

This is why I abhor many mean sports and the business model of expansion and dominance.

None of it is healthy, it's not even human, IMO.

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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. What I can't fathom is....
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:00 AM
Oct 2014

... the degree to which people will voluntarily subject themselves to the most painful, degrading and/or dangerous abuse.

Just to belong. Yes... I know about the importance of "belonging". Not to mention the anxiety and pain of NOT belonging.

But, sheeezzzz. I'd wouldn't want to belong to any group, fraternity, sports team if they're going subject me to what amounts to psychological and/or physical torture.

I'd much rather be alone. I really don't get that mindset.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
4. Had an intern here were I work...
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:21 AM
Oct 2014

Really nice guy. He worked her a few summers ago.

Two months after he returned to school, he had died due to alcohol poisoning.

he was trying to get into a frat.

hazing. fucking hazing.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. Not sure it builds character but it's often employed by groups as "rite of passage"
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:56 AM
Oct 2014

whose end result is a changed status...generally membership that is believed to be somehow special or elite.

I think significant parts of Army basic training was aimed at that goal.

Of course bullying isn't required...Walking down an aisle in an auditorium wearing a mortarboard cap to mark academic graduations is part of a rite of passage. Standing in formal wear taking marriage vows is part of rites of passage.

Submission of a recruit to the authority structure of the group is often employed in rites of passage, which can be silly things like wearing beanies and being servants to frat sponsors, to terrible things like being exercised to death (happened to a "fish" at Texas A&M) or terrible things like genital mutilation, scarring, tattooing, forced commission of criminal behavior, etc.



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