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kpete

(72,027 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:02 AM Oct 2014

Noncompete Clauses for Fast Food Workers?

Noncompete Clauses for Fast Food Workers?
[ 32 ] October 14, 2014 | Erik Loomis
Even by the standards of the fast food industry, this is a gratuitous way to treat workers:

If you’re considering working at a Jimmy John’s sandwich shop, you may want to read the fine print on your job application.

A Jimmy John’s employment agreement provided to The Huffington Post includes a “non-competition” clause that’s surprising in its breadth. Noncompete agreements are typically reserved for managers or employees who could clearly exploit a business’s inside information by jumping to a competitor. But at Jimmy John’s, the agreement apparently applies to low-wage sandwich makers and delivery drivers, too.

By signing the covenant, the worker agrees not to work at one of the sandwich chain’s competitors for a period of two years following employment at Jimmy John’s. But the company’s definition of a “competitor” goes far beyond the Subways and Potbellys of the world. It encompasses any business that’s near a Jimmy John’s location and that derives a mere 10 percent of its revenue from sandwiches.


Since there are obviously no trade secrets at stake here, this is clearly just punching employees. Let’s take the one thing we have trained this low-skill, low-wage workers at and make sure she can’t use it if she leaves it at one of our equally low-skill, low-wage competitors!


http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2014/10/noncompete-clauses-fast-food-workers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/13/jimmy-johns-non-compete_n_5978180.html?1413230622
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Noncompete Clauses for Fast Food Workers? (Original Post) kpete Oct 2014 OP
It's an unenforceable scare tactic to keep people from quitting NightWatcher Oct 2014 #1
Thank you SO much for including an alternative link. Huffington Post locks up my computer. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #2
This is crazy! get the red out Oct 2014 #3
This! TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #4
It goes right along with their "Difference between a successful/unsuccessful person*" propaganda RadiationTherapy Oct 2014 #5
Employees Basic LA Oct 2014 #6
why they arent illegal is a wonder. you no longer work for an employer that they can belzabubba333 Oct 2014 #7
kickety countryjake Oct 2014 #8
Earlier thread here KamaAina Oct 2014 #9
Non competes are not appropriate for these workers Gothmog Oct 2014 #10
If someone got sued, I'd like to see them sue JJ right back. closeupready Oct 2014 #11
I can understand non compete is some areas: littlewolf Oct 2014 #12
This is over the top and totally inappropriate. badtoworse Oct 2014 #13

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. It's an unenforceable scare tactic to keep people from quitting
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:03 AM
Oct 2014

What are JJ going to do, sue a person who makes minimum wage?

It's a scare tactic and nothing more.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. Thank you SO much for including an alternative link. Huffington Post locks up my computer.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:10 AM
Oct 2014

I swear I picked up a Mackeeper virus from them.

Indeed, this noncompete clause is a scare tactic.

It might make sense for management personnel, who would have some inside info about vendors and procedures, but for the minimum wage worker, it's just intimidation.

I wonder how common it is to hire undocumented folks and screw them and use similar threats.

I think it's a problem of epidemic proportion.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
3. This is crazy!
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:45 AM
Oct 2014

The law should never allow businesses to basically control people's lives to any extent when they have left the job. Disgusting!

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
4. This!
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:37 AM
Oct 2014

My husband works in an industry that almost always requires a non-compete clause for one year after leaving. We could lose everything (which isn't much) if we had to hire an attorney and go to court.

But a fast food company? First off, I just don't see how that could ever hold up in court, and, second, minimum wage workers don't have enough to hire an attorney! Most have nothing to lose!

This is just insanity, and one more turn of the screw at the poor.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
5. It goes right along with their "Difference between a successful/unsuccessful person*" propaganda
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:44 AM
Oct 2014

and "god bless america" decor. I am glad I picked up on the clues and ditched them early on.

* Metal placard on the wall - official JJ decor based on its copyright, etc. - "The ONLY difference between a SUCCESSFUL person and an UNSUCCESSFUL one is HARD WORK" (emphasis theirs). As someone with two family members struck down by tumors and living disabled, I am sick and tired of this bullshit. Fuck Jimmy Johns.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
6. Employees
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:46 AM
Oct 2014

In the language dept., I wonder if we'd be better united as Employees, rather than labels from previous centuries such as Workers, Labor, & Proletarians. We are a nation of Employees, after all, & that's how we self-identify. Wish it would catch on.

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
7. why they arent illegal is a wonder. you no longer work for an employer that they can
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:21 PM
Oct 2014

still dictate stuff to you is ridiculous

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. Earlier thread here
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 06:58 PM
Oct 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025661457

Figures. Jimmy John's isn't out here on the Left Coast (Togo's would eat their lunch, so to speak ), so I can't boycott them.
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
11. If someone got sued, I'd like to see them sue JJ right back.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:16 AM
Oct 2014

Not sure how the countersuit would be framed, or on exactly what basis, but it would be fun to see how it unfolded.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
12. I can understand non compete is some areas:
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:42 AM
Oct 2014

if you are IT and working on a new operating system or browser or something.
if you are in broadcasting and if you leave you can not compete in the same market. (this is common)
but fast food - crazy and stupid.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
13. This is over the top and totally inappropriate.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:06 AM
Oct 2014

And BTW, there's nothing special that I could see on their menu. I guess I'll be sticking with Jersey Mike's

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