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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes this NY Times' headline bother you as much as it does me?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/us/late-surge-of-money-buoys-republicans-in-races-that-will-decide-control-of-senate.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMediaHigh&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0The headline is Late Surge of Money buoys Republicans in Races that Will Decide Control of Senate.
It really bothers me. "Buoys" strikes me as far less than an objective tone. Why isn't it simply, "PAC money injected in Senate races for Republicans"? That is far more accurate and projects less of a viewpoint or judgment.
Aah. That's the reason. The media is not interested in reporting the facts but in supporting a particular side.
Fuck the mainstream media.
merrily
(45,251 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Million dollars then the Republicans overall. It is 475 million for Democratic Party to 425 million for GOP.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It doesn't seem to relate to my post.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)ad money, the issues be damned, where is The Precious going?
The MSM is in a major conflict of interest when it comes to massive ad buys, money that goes to them, when it comes time to report on the corruption of politics by money. Only a public finance system for politicians can clean away the rotten infection.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Oh. I need to make a retraction...
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)brooklynite
(94,571 posts)Are you suggesting the Republicans aren't encouraged?
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)Frankly, how do you measure encouragement?
I think the Republicans are just less scared shitless because they got all this fucking PAC money.
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)This viewpoint indicating subtle bias comes through in so much of the MSM.
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)I would say that's a subject of interest only for political professionals and buffs.
I would also say that undecided low-information voters aren't reading the New York Times.
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)I pointed out the subtle bias in the headline. This single headline is an example of the bias implicit in so much of media coverage. That bias contained in the media in general does have an effect in how people think about the parties, the issues, etc.
My post has nothing to do with what publications the undecided low-information voters read.
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)Will glittering generalities come next?
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)Sometimes, when everyone disagrees with you....it's you.
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)But even if they did, so what?
What does "it's me" mean? What am I? Wrong? Even if I were the only one who held an opinion, why would that make me wrong? If I have a different opinion, so what?
moondust
(19,981 posts)Looking confident, relaxed. Boy, he's got this thing!
I'm surprised they didn't add a picture of a Democrat looking panicked.
MSM is a joke.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I don't think so. "Buoys", like "boosts", is an entirely neutral word.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)what it is not news, its propoganda
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)How did they measure the alleged boost? Is there a quote from specific Republicans from which they base their conclusion?
The fact is that Republicans received an injection of funds in the Senate races. This fact is just as easily spun as "Injection of Dark Money from PACs stave off Republicans' Fear of Loss in Senate Races."
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)It did not say that candidates' visibility was boosted. It said that Republicans were buoyed.
There were no quotes from Republicans to support that they buoyed or anything else objective on which to base the conclusion. As I mentioned in a prior post, the actual fact, namely the injection of money in the race, could just as easily be spun as the Republicans fear a great loss in the Senate races.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Regardless of the myriad of other creative definitions you yourself may have constructed, the word is both accurate and neutral in contextual usage.
You have not though, explained precisely why, in its current usage, the word and its definition are objectively biased (e.g., not neutral)- you've merely made unsupported allegations.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)we'll be sure to consult you on whether you feel buoyed or not.
Christ.
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)So if I get a raise or win a prize and you are reporting on that in a newspaper, yes, I do expect you to consult me on whether I feel buoyed or not. I could feel disappointed at the amount of the raise or harbor bad feelings about someone who was given a greater prize.
If you don't consult me, then the only thing you can report is that I got a raise or won a prize.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Congrats.
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)You can't meet an argument so you make a remark about me.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)No matter how hard you try, you cannot elevate your feelings to fact.
Your insistence that the NYT is biased is not supported by facts. Can you show me the NYT's critique
of Obama's many recent fundraisers? No. I am sorry you don't like it, but the GOP is entitled to raise
money and benefit from it just as the Democratic Party. It is as journalistically sound to infer that a
cash raise is a welcome thing as it is to infer that getting Ebola is a bad thing. And no, I didn't miss your
point.
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)I am the one who is insisting that facts be reported, not alleged feelings. I point out that the fact reported is the injection of money. Republicans being buoyed is a conclusion, not a fact. Yet you claim that my argument is based on feelings, not fact.
Your post does not make sense.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Especially the 'feelings' assertion.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,316 posts)Any campaign is boosted, buoyed, encouraged, helped etc. by extra money.
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)"Injection of PAC money staves off Republican fear of Senate race losses"
A viewpoint is being expressed.
A simple reporting of the facts would be that Republicans get large infusion of cash for the Senate races. The rest is spin, conclusion, viewpoint.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,316 posts)Without reading the article (NYT limits articles to non-subscribers, and I don't want to waste one on this), saying they have 'fear' is not necessarily true. However, whether their campaigns have been going badly, well or indifferently, we can all agree that more money will help them. Well, all except you, because you still seem to cling to the idea that a campaign might get pissed off about being given money.
You need to explain why you think 'buoy' is 'spin'. So far, you've just asserted that it is, and convinced no-one. People have quoted dictionaries at you, so they are winning the argument, and you're losing. Some idea of your thinking really is needed for this thread to mean anything.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)There is no such thing a Conflict of Interest anymore...the SCOTUS made sure of that.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)PAC money injected in Senate races for Republicans buoys Republicans in Races that Will Decide Control of Senate as PAC money for Democrats hasn't come in at the same pace.
Yeah, their headline is a little better. It is also readable as a headline and a good descriptor of what you are about to read. Also seems accurate and the article does a pretty good job explaining some of it.
Faux pas
(14,680 posts)wins elections, not ideas and people. Never thought I'd live long enough to have to endure this sh*t. Of course, being from the 60's, I was supposed to live fast, die young and leave a good looking corpse...blew that one!
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I'm certainly not saying that the corporate media are objective. In this particular instance, however, I agree with the responses here that consider this headline fair.
What bothers me is the influx of money, not that the Times reported it.
If I cared enough about this subject, I'll bet I could find headlines about Democrats being buoyed or boosted or encouraged, or about Republicans being concerned or worried, when the event being reported was blue instead of red.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)should be "BUYS" instead of "buoys".