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greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:12 PM Oct 2014

Since an ebola patient traveled to Ohio, we learn Ohio's Department of Health is not lead by a Dr.

He did work in marketing at a small hospital in Wauseon, Ohio for a while, though.

http://www.plunderbund.com/2014/10/16/can-kasichs-unqualified-health-director-save-ohio-from-the-ebola-crisis/
"Ohio law requires that the head of the Ohio Department of Health (ODH), the agency responsible for managing public health emergencies, be either a “physician holding the degree of doctor of medicine” or an “individual who has had significant experience in the public health profession.” But as we reported in early August, Governor John Kasich recently ousted Medical Doctor Ted Wymyslo as head of the ODH, replacing him with Rick Hodges, a former Republican state rep and lobbyist who is neither a medical doctor nor an expert in public health."

Thank you, Governor John Kasich, for appointing a know nothing GOP political hack to the top medical job in the state of Ohio in violation of state law, to boot.

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Since an ebola patient traveled to Ohio, we learn Ohio's Department of Health is not lead by a Dr. (Original Post) greatlaurel Oct 2014 OP
well of course. He/she is a bean counter with an MBA notadmblnd Oct 2014 #1
You got that right! greatlaurel Oct 2014 #4
But he did once stay at a Holiday Inn Express... Thor_MN Oct 2014 #45
ALL politics involves cronyism. But Democrats put qualified cronies in while Republicans KittyWampus Oct 2014 #2
Unbelievable marions ghost Oct 2014 #3
Dimwits Faux pas Oct 2014 #5
i'll bet he does a heck of a job just like "brownie" belzabubba333 Oct 2014 #6
And enjoys a heck of a 7-figure salary too I bet. nt tridim Oct 2014 #7
That was my immediate thought, too. nt Hekate Oct 2014 #54
No reason to have an MD at the top BOSNYCDC Oct 2014 #8
True, but this mook is neither KamaAina Oct 2014 #9
This GOP flunkie is not exactly a Phd, either brentspeak Oct 2014 #10
But...but... Rozlee Oct 2014 #15
Marketing? Really? CanonRay Oct 2014 #38
The Ohio Revised Code requires someone with significant public health experience or a physician. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #37
Agreed, but this person isn't qualified for public health either IronLionZion Oct 2014 #48
This political hack is neither an MD nor a public health professional. /t pnwmom Oct 2014 #50
I am afraid this is too often the situation. Crony appointments are part of the reason so many jwirr Oct 2014 #11
That explains why he's freaking out Warpy Oct 2014 #12
Don't throw stones too far Chuuku Davis Oct 2014 #13
I have yet to talk to physican,,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2014 #20
What? n/t JimDandy Oct 2014 #42
Holy cow. Not even an MPH. mainer Oct 2014 #14
John Kasich has no concern for the health or welfare of the citizens of Ohio. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #39
Remember those "death panels" that Republicans invented? procon Oct 2014 #16
You're describing the House Science Committee where government hating Republicans are in control. DhhD Oct 2014 #46
Kakistocracy Renew Deal Oct 2014 #17
Actually with Republicans you get a kleptocratic kakistocracy. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #18
Would that be the klassic kakistocratic kleptocracy, perchance? n/t xocet Oct 2014 #22
May not be a Doc,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2014 #19
Kick! valerief Oct 2014 #21
GREAT. But remember - guvmnt BAAAAAAAD! We need to shrink the guvmnt down so we can drown calimary Oct 2014 #23
That part "in violation of state law"..... Curmudgeoness Oct 2014 #24
Pity nobody has the presence of mind to demand the impeachment of John Kasich. Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #29
Seems like nothing ever changes but the changes. lpbk2713 Oct 2014 #25
No wonder they are closing schools and putting people on leave. That explains it. morningfog Oct 2014 #26
Because the Cleveland Clinic - who put several of its nurses on paid leave Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #31
So glad I moved out of Ohio all those years ago Auggie Oct 2014 #27
He did stay at the Holiday Inn Express didn't he? That's all that matters. LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #28
This is what 1-party rule looks like. riqster Oct 2014 #30
You are right, riqster. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #40
giggle fadedrose Oct 2014 #32
The previous director of ODH was a right wing ideologue, but he did have a medical degree. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #33
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #34
Kasich has no real philosphy, IMO, he has just attached himself to right wing nuts to get power. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #43
I hope your Kasich predictions are accurate. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #53
The Wolfe family has been Kasich's backer since he started in politics. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #55
It's baffling to me too. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #58
Does anyone wonder why Ohio is so fucked up? albino65 Oct 2014 #35
That wouldn't preclude there being MDs and other skilled experienced people HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #36
I have seen this argument a couple of times about Kasich's pick. Not buying it, sorry. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #56
I didn't make a comment on Kasich. I commented on how a state health dept HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #57
He had all the credentials he needed: he was a friend of the Governor. marble falls Oct 2014 #41
You are correct. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #44
Don't forget corruption is as corrution does long time guest, Rick Perry. DhhD Oct 2014 #47
Obviously Kasich.... 47of74 Oct 2014 #49
Bet he will do a heck of a job Ricky will lunasun Oct 2014 #51
Whoa...no way. SoapBox Oct 2014 #52

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
4. You got that right!
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:17 PM
Oct 2014

Who would ever think that you might have a medical issue for the Ohio Department of Health to handle?

I cannot believe Kasich is going to be reelected so easily. The man is an absolute idiot. His contempt for Ohioans is epic.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
45. But he did once stay at a Holiday Inn Express...
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 08:07 PM
Oct 2014

Business hacks think it is cheaper to pay a few wrongful death suits than do the processes that should be done.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. ALL politics involves cronyism. But Democrats put qualified cronies in while Republicans
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:14 PM
Oct 2014

disregard rational considerations and just put anybody anywhere if they give enough money.

Like Brownie.

 

BOSNYCDC

(66 posts)
8. No reason to have an MD at the top
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:44 PM
Oct 2014

In fact (and I've worked in public health for many, many years) I'd much rather have a public health professional (DrPH, PhD) at the helm with a Chief Medical Officer (MD) at the ready to make any clinical decisions.
MDs are not trained in public health, population health, management and policy in the ways a PhD is.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
10. This GOP flunkie is not exactly a Phd, either
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:48 PM
Oct 2014

The Kasich Administration quickly responded to our concerns over Hodges’ qualifications… by having Hodges alter his LinkedIn profile. Within hours, Hodges’ profile was magically amended to include a marketing position with a small hospital in Wauseon, Ohio. Even with this new-found “experience,” Hodges still failed to meet the requirements set forth in state law for the director of ODH.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
37. The Ohio Revised Code requires someone with significant public health experience or a physician.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 05:27 PM
Oct 2014

Here is the Ohio Revised Code on qualifications to be the director of health in Ohio:

Ohio Revised Code 121.10:

The director of health shall be either:

(A) A physician holding the degree of doctor of medicine from a medical college approved by the state medical board who, before assuming his duties, has been licensed to practice medicine in the state and who has had experience in pursuing some phase of medical practice;

(B) An individual who has had significant experience in the public health profession.

The current director was knowingly appointed in violation of the Ohio Revised Code and is completely unqualified to hold such an important position. His only link to health care is he against women making decisions about their own bodies and he is a crony of Kasich. He has no public health credentials at all.

IronLionZion

(45,438 posts)
48. Agreed, but this person isn't qualified for public health either
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:23 PM
Oct 2014

these positions should not be staffed by political hacks.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. I am afraid this is too often the situation. Crony appointments are part of the reason so many
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:50 PM
Oct 2014

organizations are having trouble fulfilling their missions today.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
12. That explains why he's freaking out
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:55 PM
Oct 2014

Honestly, we need to weed out businessmen and other medically ignorant people from boards of health, hospital administration, and national health appointments.

Republicans always appoint party hacks to the agencies that affect human beings, from FEMA to school committees to health agencies.

There are people out there with degrees in public health. They don't seem to be considered for employment by stupid ass Republicans.

Chuuku Davis

(565 posts)
13. Don't throw stones too far
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:06 PM
Oct 2014

I have yet to talk to a physician who thinks Dr. Vivek Murthy should be surgeon general

I know I am against him

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
20. I have yet to talk to physican,,,,,
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 03:19 PM
Oct 2014

that thinks Obama could anybody that they would give their approval.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
39. John Kasich has no concern for the health or welfare of the citizens of Ohio.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 05:44 PM
Oct 2014

We are only to be used in the furtherance of his goals which are to enrich himself, further enrich his powerful backers like the Wolfe and Lindner families, and to run for POTUS. For some reason this ninny thinks he should be president.

procon

(15,805 posts)
16. Remember those "death panels" that Republicans invented?
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:39 PM
Oct 2014

Well, when money trumps health and safety, it looks like Ohio really has one now by putting a lobbyist in charge of public health. Its like putting an anti-global warming, creationist in charge of the science committee... or the government hating Republicans in control of our government. Crazy.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
46. You're describing the House Science Committee where government hating Republicans are in control.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:11 PM
Oct 2014

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
18. Actually with Republicans you get a kleptocratic kakistocracy.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 03:04 PM
Oct 2014

Or maybe it's a kakistocratic kleptocracy.

calimary

(81,246 posts)
23. GREAT. But remember - guvmnt BAAAAAAAD! We need to shrink the guvmnt down so we can drown
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 03:30 PM
Oct 2014

it in a bathtub!!!

Gummnt BAAAAD!!!! So then, those of us who believe that - NEED to get INTO gummnt so we can PROVE it, by Jove!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
24. That part "in violation of state law".....
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 03:34 PM
Oct 2014

who will be prosecuted for violating the law? This is where I always get confused.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
31. Because the Cleveland Clinic - who put several of its nurses on paid leave
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 04:59 PM
Oct 2014

(because they were on the same plane to Ohio with Vinson) is such a medically incompetent institution.

I'll give you that closing the schools was dumb - but that was likely a decision by the local school superintendent - not a bureaucrat at the stat level.

And the folks in Summit County (where she spent most of her time) are competent (and have an MD at the helm).

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
40. You are right, riqster.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 05:50 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Thu Oct 16, 2014, 07:20 PM - Edit history (1)

We need to vote out these crooks this November.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
32. giggle
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 05:02 PM
Oct 2014

But I hope he replaces him for the peoples' sake. Shouldn't be too hard to find a Republican doctor, not hard at all.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
34. Kicked and recommended!
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 05:16 PM
Oct 2014

The GOP portrays Kasich as a moderate when in fact he is nothing of the kind.

Of course they have him on the short list for VP.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
43. Kasich has no real philosphy, IMO, he has just attached himself to right wing nuts to get power.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 07:19 PM
Oct 2014

Having Kasich run on a national ticket would be a godsend for Ohio and the Democratic Party. He would do an absolute meltdown under a national media spotlight and we would get rid of him here in Ohio, because the GOP would have to get rid of him when he becomes a national embarrassment to their party.

Notice how he will not do a debate with his opponent this year. He can not be allowed out in public to be exposed for the fraudster that he is. He must have some sort of pretty severe alcohol or other substance abuse problem. His hair looks really bad and he has aged dramatically facially in just a couple of years. His wealthy owners must keep promising him he will be POTUS, in order to keep being given the tax dollars of Ohioans.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
55. The Wolfe family has been Kasich's backer since he started in politics.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 02:46 PM
Oct 2014

His district was near where I live so was subjected to all the local media hype about him. He gives me the creeps and I cannot understand how people vote for people like him. I am starting to think that an awful lot of conservatives are drawn to scam artists and sociopaths. It is like they have no instinct for self preservation. It's baffling to me.

Of course, the state rep for my district is Ron Hood, another creepy Republican. The hair on the back of my neck stands up when he is around. He gives off a scam artist/evangelical preacher/sociopath vibe that is unmistakable. Ohioans keep voting for these people who are clearly not interested in anything except enriching themselves. But Ron Hood is a member of ALEC, so he will look out for ordinary people, right?

 

albino65

(484 posts)
35. Does anyone wonder why Ohio is so fucked up?
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 05:17 PM
Oct 2014

The democratic party can't even put up a viable candidate for governor. Kasich is a forgone conclusion to continue raping the environment and looting the treasury. I hate this state so much, but can't afford to move.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
36. That wouldn't preclude there being MDs and other skilled experienced people
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 05:25 PM
Oct 2014

in charge of things like their communicable disease investigations

When I worked in public health at the state level, we had MDs that were division heads, we had veterinarians and PhDs that were section heads.

When shit happens the political appointments sat back and worked on legal and political issues (to end fear that a factory is contaminated with some awful pathogen can you tell the community that the 3 factory workers who died in a cluster all had complicating medical conditions, which is how you don't say they were HIV+) while the folks with medical, microbiological, and food inspection experience helped organize and direct investigations usually done by counties, but sometimes done by cities.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
56. I have seen this argument a couple of times about Kasich's pick. Not buying it, sorry.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 02:54 PM
Oct 2014

By picking someone who is completely unqualified for the position and in clear violation of state law, it shows complete contempt of, not only the law, but the public's welfare. This man was put into this position, mainly because he is backed by the Ohio Right to Life organization. They are not interested in public health, only their single minded obsession with controlling women's bodies. These people are willing to lie in furthering their agenda. Lies like "abortions cause breast cancer." and "birth control pills cause abortions" and all the other lies they promote are proof that such people have no business in charge of the top public health organization in this state.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
57. I didn't make a comment on Kasich. I commented on how a state health dept
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 03:24 PM
Oct 2014

is structured, and how deep the level of expertise can be, even with a politician on top. It's my experience that those people make a huge difference in making state level public health work even in the face of politics.

Political appointments can and do push agendas even in public health, I did not mean to imply otherwise.

Not being in Texas I can't, and don't think I did, comment on how much Perry and others might want to dismantle aspects of Texas Public Health. I've seen efforts to cut programs, especially programs for women and infant care and nutrition here in Wisconsin. With ALEC being the central source of boiler plate language I would expect similar things to be happening in both states.






greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
44. You are correct.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 07:25 PM
Oct 2014

I really wish this would get some national attention on what is going on in Ohio. Our state government is ruled completely by the GOP and it is highly corrupt. Ohio is a home rule state, so there is no state power to root out the corruption that is rampant. Our only protection is at the ballot box and we have the Secretary of Voter Suppression Jon Husted.

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