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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 05:04 PM Oct 2014

Dutch abandon "black pete" tradition

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2795267/dutch-abandon-black-pete-christmas-tradition-racism-row-replace-santa-s-sidekick-cheese-pete.html

abandon 'black Pete' Christmas tradition over racism row - and replace him as santa's sidekick with 'cheese Pete' 
Black Pete is a jolly, but controversial, sidekick of the Dutch Saint Nicholas 
A racism row erupted with critics claiming Pete is a negative stereotype
An Amsterdam court agreed, bringing about a facelift for the character
Black Pete hands out gifts in Holland on December 5 with Saint Nicholas 


By TED THORNHILL FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 04:25 EST, 16 October 2014 | UPDATED: 05:41 EST, 16 October 2014


Black Pete, the jolly sidekick of the Dutch Saint Nicholas, is finally getting a facelift after years of bitter debate including death threats against those calling for change.

An Amsterdam court's ruling in July that Pete - traditionally dressed in a gaudy medieval costume with a blackened face, red lips and an afro wig - is a 'negative stereotype' encouraged many to try to change the deeply rooted custom.

'It's the beginning of change, it will continue for years to come because more and more people agree it should change but it's going to take a long time,' said historian Gabor Kozijn, author of a study on Black Pete for the Dutch Centre for Intangible Cultural Heritage.





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Dutch abandon "black pete" tradition (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 OP
Which one has the "gaudy costume?" immoderate Oct 2014 #1
David Sedaris has an hysterical story about this tradition msanthrope Oct 2014 #2
Thanks for posting. That was hilarious! adirondacker Oct 2014 #5
That's really kind of a shame, children adore him there Warpy Oct 2014 #3
But Krampus inspired a good beer. OnyxCollie Oct 2014 #4
In my wife's tradition Peter was a type of krampus MattBaggins Oct 2014 #6

Warpy

(111,410 posts)
3. That's really kind of a shame, children adore him there
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 07:07 PM
Oct 2014

All blackface traditions are not negative stereotypes of people of African origin.

If he had remained true to the Mediaeval portraits of St. Nick, it would have been a real problem, as he was always depicted in chains as a demon tamed by Nick. Both black and white demons were painted.

Swarte Piet is in Mediaeval clothing, but his emergence was in 1850. While he was presented as a servant of St. Nick in 1850, that has softened considerably over the years and now he's a sidekick and entertainer.

It could be a lot worse, consider Krampus in the Austrian Xmas tradition.

MattBaggins

(7,905 posts)
6. In my wife's tradition Peter was a type of krampus
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:00 AM
Oct 2014

My father in law tells how the Peter character was responsible for chasing beating the bad kids with switches while Nicolaus gave out candy to the good ones. If you were really bad he would threaten to put you in his bag and kidnap you.

I mean this literally. On St Nicolaus day people would dress up as the two characters and go through villages.

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