what a cluster fuck..health care worker who handled ebola lab specimen on cruise ship with symptoms

[boomer55]

Why the hell arent all those who came into contact with Duncan on at least home quarantine??? A fricken cruise??

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_CRUISE_SHIP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

a Dallas health care worker who handled a lab specimen from an Ebola-infected man from Liberia who died of the disease is on a Caribbean cruise ship where she has self-quarantined and is is being monitored for any signs of infection.

The officials say the woman has shown no signs of the disease and has been asymptomatic for 17 days.

The government is working to return the woman and her husband to the U.S. before the ship completes its cruise. The officials say the State Department is working with a country they won't identify to secure their transportation home.

update*****

Later tonight in breaking news, Channel 5 Belize reported that it has:

“Confirmed with representatives of the Ministry of Health that they have indeed received a report that there is at least one passenger on board the cruise ship, Carnival Magic, showing symptoms similar to that of the Ebola virus. According to the report made to MOH, the person exhibiting the symptoms did not come ashore today. The ship is reportedly carrying 3652 passengers and a total population of 4633 persons.


http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/

[jezebel]

1. the title of your post is wrong. The article states she has had NO symptoms. nt.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. LOL

Reading comprehension appears to be an issue here.

[boomer55]

4. heres nother story stating she has. Thanks for pointing that out.

http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/


Later tonight in breaking news, Channel 5 Belize reported that it has:

“Confirmed with representatives of the Ministry of Health that they have indeed received a report that there is at least one passenger on board the cruise ship, Carnival Magic, showing symptoms similar to that of the Ebola virus. According to the report made to MOH, the person exhibiting the symptoms did not come ashore today. The ship is reportedly carrying 3652 passengers and a total population of 4633 persons.

[Oktober]

29. Yeah... That means someone on the boat has a fever and body ache...

That's it...

[Nuclear Unicorn]

61. And in the case of Amber Vinson, that's a distinction without a difference. nt

[yellowcanine]

88. Actually that link says the woman in question does not have any symptoms.

“Late afternoon on Wednesday, Oct. 15., we were made aware by the U.S. CDC of a guest sailing this week on board Carnival Magic who is a lab supervisor at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. At no point in time has the individual exhibited any symptoms or signs of infection and it has been 19 days since she was in the lab with the testing samples. She is deemed by CDC to be very low risk. At this time, the guest remains in isolation on board the ship and is not deemed to be a risk to any guests or crew. It is important to reiterate that the individual has no symptoms and has been isolated in an extreme abundance of caution. We are in close contact with the CDC and at this time it has been determined that the appropriate course of action is to simply keep the guest in isolation on board.”

Maybe someone on the ship has Ebola - like symptoms, whatever the hell that means, a common cold shares some symptoms with Ebola, the flu shares more, norovirus shares even more - that NEVER happens on cruise ships!

[Ms. Toad]

99. And Amber Vinson had no symptoms before her flight back to Texas . . .

according to all the news reports which touted her being isolated within 90 minutes of reporting a fever . . .

until we heard later that she had a low level fever when she boarded the plane . . .

and now, a couple of days later, we find out she had symptoms at least on Saturday - and potentially on Friday before her first plane flight.

[yellowcanine]

106. How does that relate to this individual? It doesn't.

No logic there.

[Fumesucker]

3. The nurses were cleared to work and care for patients

I don't see how going on a cruise can be much worse than that.

[boomer55]

6. I know but by now you'd think every single person in the hospital who had contact

would have been tracked down and told to basically quarantine in place.

[TorchTheWitch]

32. as of yesterday the CDC decided to quarantine all workers

that had any contact with Mr. Duncan or his bodily fluids. The quarantine means "in place" if they are in a position (such as the person on the cruise ship) where they are not able to quarantine in an appropriate place for the time of the quarantine (which I imagine would be the usual 21 day from date of exposure).

The person on the cruise ship was notified to self-quarantine in the ship until picked up by the US (however they're doing that if it's not been done already). This is why I believe that the Belezian site belived the person suddenly and conveniently became symptomatic at that time... becaue they had to self-quarantine on the ship until removed according to the CDC's new orders.

None of these workers need to be tracked down - they were already known since they were told to self-monitor.

[FarPoint]

26. Excellent point.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

63. And Amber Vinson was cleared to fly. Obviously that was a bad call.

[Cali_Democrat]

5. Did you even read the article before you panicked?

[boomer55]

8. awww your little snarkly looks so childish now doesnt it?

Later tonight in breaking news, Channel 5 Belize reported that it has:

“Confirmed with representatives of the Ministry of Health that they have indeed received a report that there is at least one passenger on board the cruise ship, Carnival Magic, showing symptoms similar to that of the Ebola virus. According to the report made to MOH, the person exhibiting the symptoms did not come ashore today. The ship is reportedly carrying 3652 passengers and a total population of 4633 persons.


http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/

[Cali_Democrat]

12. Two conflicting reports....we're all gonna die.

FAWK.

[global1]

44. Sign Of The Times......

My parents went on a cruise and all I got was this lousy ebola.

I don't mean to make light of this - but this is a transmissible disease. For God's sake - use common sense people.

[Darb]

92. I don't think that says what you think it says.

It only mentions that one person is sick. It does not say that it is the nurse in question. Am I missing that part?

With 4000+ on a ship, someone could be sick, no?

[Cali_Democrat]

105. Looks like you panicked for no reason.

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/10/18/coast-guard-woman-aboard-cruise-ship-considered-asymptomatic/17522091/

The media says jump and you say how high. You bought it hook, line and sinker.

[kestrel91316]

7. Self-monitored isolation and cruise ship really don't work together in

the same sentence.

Symptomatic or not, this person is a grade A, first class complete and utter moron. I hope she is fired at the very least.

[KingCharlemagne]

10. If you fire health care workers for contracting the disease, what health care worker in his or her

right mind will ever, EVER, consent to provide care, knowing people like you are gunning for them and their livelihoods?

Answer: NO ONE will care for patients stricken with Ebola because in America if you don't have a job, you become homeless and then you die.

USA! USA! USA!

[Live and Learn]

28. +1 nt

[Ilsa]

54. Thank you! nt

[kestrel91316]

83. Where did I say to fire healthcare workers for becoming infected??

They should be fired if they are exposed and then do something that potentially endangers hundreds, if not thousands.

"No harm, no foul" simply encourages this shit to continue.

[KingCharlemagne]

85. So you'd fire this HCW not for anything he or she did work related while on the job, but for

taking a vacation? Can you please point me to any directive this lab employee received directing him or her to stop his or her normal routine?

[Yo_Mama]

14. They weren't told to isolate themselves. They were allowed to continue treating patients.

They weren't even given paid leave and told to stay home.

This does not make the US look good.

I wouldn't assume the Belize station report is correct. I think it is confusing symptoms with exposure, to be monitored for symptoms.

[lunasun]

45. Many So called morons not flying or cruising have been working at the hospital and were not

Told to stay home and have continued working until the llatest cdc decision
but but off with all their heads especially anyone who happened to have vacation scheduled and not told to stay in Dallas or given the OK by experts to travel because that is worse than working in a hospital or support staff everyday since exposure.

I can't even say fire those making the decisions @CDC as they are dealing with something unknown here as can be seen by the rules changing everyday regarding those exposed.

doyathink everyone exposed has been staying home ???
It sounds like this person was in a lab position and it may just now be confirmed there was contact
Do you think even if they were self monitoring and had no symptoms they could just call in to work and say they think they have decided to impose a self quarantine and their work would just be fine with that at the time they were not advised to do so by experts?

I think they may face firing or would need to quit. Not the other way around
I do not know where you work but what if they took off 3 weeks suddenly unscheduled and unapproved because they decided they had more "common sense" than what they have decided are moron experts and never did developed symptoms? I wonder who would be fired?
These jobs are not filled overnight by some temp agency in most places they are already in need of more staff and especially now.
I understand if someone one intuitively felt the information being given was not enough and quit.
But no one should be fired for following advised instructions on how to proceed with their life after the hospital took in Duncan, or be called a moron

[Ilsa]

56. Thank you. nt

[Maru Kitteh]

9. How much Vacay does this hospital give? I can't BUY a proper vacation.

Damn!

[lunasun]

47. no hospital should give employees any vacation if someone somewhere doesn't get one too!

[Maru Kitteh]

104. That's exactly what I said, clearly.

[Yo_Mama]

11. Apparently they just decided to quarantine them.

So now I guess they are trying to retrieve this one so they can quarantine her. I believe that went into effect today. One aspect of quarantines is that to be effective, they have to be instituted early. This is sort of an ex post facto quarantine.

Next we'll find out that there's a Dallas health care worker on the space station that they need to go get pronto. It appears that Dallas health care workers lead very active lives. One pictures countries reproachfully returning Dallas health care workers and filing protests with the UN. With our luck, there may be one in Nigeria right now causing the next Ebolahunt.

Note the bit about transport home. Is that going to be on a commercial flight? If so, wouldn't that be a bit counterproductive? Wouldn't the country involved suggest rather strongly and indignantly that we need to provide transport ourselves?

This reminds me of Dave Barry's riff on vehicle recalls.
http://books.google.com/books?id=rmep1-0629AC&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=Dave+Barry+vehicle+recalls&source=bl&ots=vVU1r3lB8Q&sig=tq-nNKsyQHPBgbzuysd9T39uhuk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1bRAVMuVNo3wgwTJm4HoAg&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q&f=false

[Cha]

24. Really. "It appears that Dallas health care workers lead very active lives."

[loudsue]

38. ex post facto quarantines, recalls, etc. The USA refuses to do anything that makes sense anymore

I'm sick of the republicans dumbing-down and fucking up this once-great nation.

[RKP5637]

46. It is, it is endless across many areas in the US ... blatant dumbing down, lack of

funding, incompetence and sheer Idiocracy. Damn, I wish all Americans would wake the F up and vote all of these incompetent bozos out of office R, D or I.

[WhiteAndNerdy]

13. Great. As if cruise ships weren't filthy enough already. nt

[LostInAnomie]

15. God damn. Just god fucking damn.

There really aren't words for how stupid and irresponsible these people are.

[NutmegYankee]

18. Which people?

The nurses were not told to quarantine themselves. They just check for any sign of disease.

[lunasun]

49. "These people" all have degrees and are so irresponsible that people trust them with their lives !

[TorchTheWitch]

16. your first article says 19 days, not 17 as in your post

At this point I don't believe that this person is symptomatic. The CDC yesterday finally decided that anyone that came into contact with Mr. Duncan or his bodily fluids needed to be quarantined rather than self-monitoring. I find it rather odd that this person was not symptomatic for NINETEEN days while the AP claims the person has no symptoms and this Belizean site says they do have symptoms. Taking her off the ship to be put into quarantine was the reason she was to be taken off the ship. And suddenly after 19 days they get symptoms just as the US was sent to pick her up for quarantine?

Sorry, but I think the Belizean site is assuming the person suddenly became symptomatic because they suddenly put themselves into self-quarantine while on the ship. They had to put themselves in self-quarantine on the ship since the CDC just decided that the workers needed to be quarantined.

[Ed Suspicious]

17. Outbreak couldn't happen in America.

Too many foolproof protocols and failsafes in place. Best healthcare system in the world. We 're #1. USA! USA! 'murica.

[MontyPow]

19. Has there been an outbreak here in the US?

[TorchTheWitch]

27. I guess that depends on what the definition of "outbreak" is

How many people does it take before there is an "official" outbreak?

Seeing that two people are now infected with Ebola for treating an Ebola stricken patient and what we have learned concerning the conditions in the hospital during his care, I think that can be called a minor outbreak. Or a very minor outbreak. Or a very minor outbreak that may turn into a minor outbreak or even a not minor outbreak but an actual "official" outbreak.

For starters, here's how Merriam Webster's dictionary defines the word outbreak:

out·break
noun

Definition of OUTBREAK

1: a sudden rise in the incidence of a disease <an outbreak of measles>

2: a sudden increase in numbers of a harmful organism and especially an insect within a particular area <an outbreak of locusts>

Has there been a sudden rise in the incidence of the Ebola disease in the US? I suppose you could say yes to that since two people (so far) have been found to have become infected with Ebola while treating an Ebola patient that occurred suddenly.

[MontyPow]

59. I'll wait until I read that individuals not involved in Duncan's care contract the disease.

I don't think an outbreak has occured.

[TorchTheWitch]

64. go back to sleep then

Personally, I give a shit about caregivers being needlessly exposed to a BSL-4 virus without adequate protection and contract a deadly disease.

[MontyPow]

90. I give a shit about caregivers. My wife IS ONE.

I don't care for fearmongering and disinformation about the contractibility of this disease.

Go back to school. I'll go back to bed.

[yeoman6987]

82. Some here literally said we would never get it here

Then it went to well it won't be that bad. Now we are finally seeing that it is bad. If we would have taken it seriously the first day, we might be ok. But we have a long road ahead to that new shiny penny that will take this focus away.

[liberalhistorian]

86. It's the whole "American Exceptionalism"

bullshit, this deeply-entrenched notion that bad things will happen over THERE but, by God, we're too damned special for them to happen over HERE. The nation didn't give a pellet of rat shit about the thousands suffering and dying from Ebola in Africa because, well, it's in Africa, over THERE, and only "those people" were dealing with it. Before Duncan, the main point of most Western articles and reports on Ebola was that it couldn't happen HERE, so there was no need to really give a damn about it over THERE. Well, the chickens are coming home to roost to show us that we just aren't really all that "special" and "exceptional" after all, now, are we?

[davidn3600]

20. NYT now reporting that Dallas healthcare worker is aboard a cruise ship; but in good health

Adding a new and troubling dimension to the search for Americans possibly exposed to the Ebola virus, the State Department said Friday that an employee of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital who may have had contact with specimens of the disease had left the United States aboard a cruise ship.

The employee and a traveling partner, who were not identified by name, had agreed to remain isolated in a cabin aboard the vessel, the State Department said, and “out of an abundance of caution” efforts were underway to repatriate them. A physician aboard the cruise ship had said the employee was in good health.

The disclosure by a State Department spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, added to the growing concerns that have gripped Americans, health care workers, lawmakers and leaders across the country since a Liberian man, Thomas Eric Duncan, tested positive for Ebola last month and died on Oct. 8 in the same hospital.
---
“The employee did not have direct contact” with Mr. Duncan, the statement said, “but may have had contact with clinical specimens collected from him.”

“The individual was out of the country before being notified of the C.D.C.'s updated requirements for active monitoring,” her statement said. “At the time the hospital employee left the country, C.D.C. was requiring only self-monitoring.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/ebola-cruise-ship-dallas.html

Apparently they are not showing symptoms. But they have quarantined themselves to their cabin and the US government has tried to get them back. But it appears this has spooked the Belize government and media.

[Retrograde]

21. Isn't Carnival the cruise line that had the norovirus problems

a year or two back? From unfortunate first-hand experience, symptoms of norovirus also include vomiting and diarrhea. Unlike certain former Republican Senate Majority Leaders I can't do remote diagnoses, so based on the info in the article it's still a "maybe".

BTW, does the Dallas hospital or the CDC know who the exposed people are, and where they are now?

[TorchTheWitch]

22. yes

and yes.

It was Carnival Cruise Line that had the norovirus problems. Of course, any extremely contagious disease like that is pretty much impossible to contain in that sort of environment.

Yes, the CDC and probably the hospital as well know that the person is on the cruise which is why they went to get her, however, the reason they went to get her is not because she became symptomatic - no US media has reported that she has (and after 19 days of not being symptomatic I just find it VERY hard to believe the person is now). The CDC yesterday suddenly decided that because of the cluster-fuck of the caring for Mr. Duncan that all the workers that had any direct contact with him or his bodily fluids would now be under quarantine rather than the self-monitoring they had put in place before.

As I said in my other post in this thread I think that the Belizean media site is assuming that the person became symptomatic because she put herself in voluntary quarantine while on the ship (as of yesterday) because of the new CDC protocol calling for quarantine of these people said that they had to. There is no indication that the person has suddenly and conveniently immediately after the CDC called for quarantine of these workers has developed any symptoms. Coupled with their being symptom free for 19 days already, I just don't believe the person has symptoms.


OMG, not a single typo or spelling mistake! I don't think that's ever happened to me before with a post of this length. Normally I'm happy if they aren't in double digits.

[Live and Learn]

30. +1 and a touche for no spelling mistakes! nt

[robbob]

33. But wait, what if...

What if the morovirus and the Ebola virus somehow interact with each other and mutate to form an airborne variant of Ebola and then we all die?

...something to think about

[AngryOldDem]

43. You ask:Does the Dallas hospital or the CDC know who the exposed people are, and where they are now?

Going by the way things have been handled, I seriously doubt it.

[lunasun]

51. + 1.looks like they are starting to follow all tracks as this person came in contact with a specimen

Not the actual pt.

[Crunchy Frog]

23. People are always getting Ebola like symptoms on cruise ships. They're notorious for it.

It doesn't even say whether the person with symptoms was the person who had the exposure.

That said, it's not such a swift move to go on a cruise after having contact with an Ebola patient.

I'm willing to bet that the major damage from this whole Ebola crisis will be economic, a result of mass hysteria, and not lots of actual Ebola cases.

[Cha]

25. I know..".. it's not such a swift move to go on a cruise after having contact with an Ebola

patient." Safe than Sorry! Wonder in retrospect if they would have stayed home?

[Live and Learn]

31. Do you think it is easy for people to put their lives on hold for 21 days?

If we are serious about quarantine, we should not leave them at home (where they could infect their families and pets if they are infected) but put them up somewhere and pay all expenses related.

She had probably paid for that cruise long ago. Who was going to reimburse her? Do people here ever try to imagine being in someone else's shoes, anymore?

[Cha]

34. Actually, I do empathize.. I asked if she wishes she would have stayed home in retrospect.

Hopefully, she doesn't have the disease and no one else has it either.

[Live and Learn]

35. I'm glad you empathize but I think it will take some financial help

and safe places to stay to ensure that quarantines really work. I mean, if I knew I had any possibility of being infected, I wouldn't want to go home and expose my family. So, where would I go?

[dixiegrrrrl]

36. The FEMA camps is where you can go, silly.

Now that Obama has successfully brought the virus to the USA so he can win the elections,
all those top secret FEMA camps are gonna be used to forcibly confine people who may have Ebola
apparently to stop the passage of the Ebola virus that Obama wants to use ..
errrr...
or....something like that..
Anyhow, I read all about it on Free Republic and they are a popular web site so why wouldn't I believe them, cause it's right there in print and all...

[Live and Learn]

37. LOL But everybody knows the FEMA camps are to be used

exclusively for Freepers so where will the rest of us go?

[pinboy3niner]

39. There aren't enough FReepers to fill a fraction of one camp, let alone ALL of them

I smell another Rimjob fundraiser coming up...

[RKP5637]

48. Damn, the Freepers always get all the free stuff. Damn Welfare-Queen Freepers! n/t

[ohnoyoudidnt]

91. Obama sure is a clever one.

I remember reading about FEMA camps in the 90s. How does he do it? I must go to FR and find out more about this.

[mnhtnbb]

41. Who was going to reimburse her? This is why people buy travel insurance.

She probably chose not to purchase the travel insurance...but I bet she will next time!

[Mariana]

67. Does travel insurance pay

if you just decide, on your own, not to go on the trip? Remember that this person wasn't sick and had not been placed under any kind of quarantine. If she made her own decision to stay home, would she be reimbursed?

[mnhtnbb]

77. depends on the policy

plus, I would imagine she could have gotten a dr's excuse with the
explanation about having handled the specimens from an ebola patient.
That might help.

[Fumesucker]

93. Yeah, sucks to be her

[mnhtnbb]

40. Oh my.

My first thought when I saw the list of where that Frontier plane had gone after the nurse
flew on it from Cleveland to Dallas was people getting off in Ft. Lauderdale (one of the
plane's destinations) would be boarding a cruise ship. Given that she wasn't
puking all over the plane, I doubt anyone that flew with her will get sick, but still, the
ability for the thing to spread all over and become a nightmare to trace contacts from
plane to cruise ship is just that--a nightmare.

[AngryOldDem]

42. Where is the common sense here?

ANYONE who had ANY contact with Duncan should have been home quarantined for AT LEAST 21 days. Until we get a better handle on this, I'm all for erring on the side of caution, no matter how little contact they may have had with him.

Good Christ. If this spreads, it will be mostly due to negligence on the part of people and authorities that should have known better.

[RKP5637]

50. In the old days we would have had a Surgeon General with a repeating spot on TV

reaching a mass-audience giving facts, precautions, current status and stopping rumors. Now, all we get is MSM with an incentive for bottom-line profit.

Yes, agree so much with you, "If this spreads, it will be mostly due to negligence on the part of people and authorities that should have known better." In some ways it reminds me of AIDS where it was pushed under the carpet, cause it's just "them" that get it. A great deal more should have occurred immediately to have contained it IMO.

[TorchTheWitch]

57. we have an acting Surgeon General

Doesn't matter since the CDC is the authority regardless.

[RKP5637]

62. It seems it would be good if there were a repeating advisory to stem rumors and to

state facts from the CDC? As this continues, it appears facilities might be overwhelmed, for example, with people falsely thinking they have Ebola as the flu season approaches. Some MSM is responsible and factual, then other MSM is panicky to boost viewership IMO. And then there is, of course, CT.

[TorchTheWitch]

68. Considering the CDC has been a cluster-fuck on this

it sure would be nice to have some other authority rather than the ass-covering inept boob that we have.

Something about the media being scare mongering was mentioned in the congressional hearing yesterday. I can't remember if there was any answer as to that. I was only able to listen to very little of it since my intertube stream was ghastly.

It also doesn't help that a lot of people these days get their news from blogs, twitter, social media and other scare mongering CT places.

Me, I don't watch tv. I pick and chose what news I want to see on the internet. I can't even imagine the scare mongering Jerry Springer style blarney being shouted about. Our media has been an embarrassment for a very very long time. Why anyone watches cable news, news shows or listens to Loony Radio boggles my mind.

[RKP5637]

70. I agree so much with you!!! n/t

[Bluenorthwest]

78. The last serious new viral threat in the US was met by long years of silence from the Reagan

Administration. There was no spot on TV giving facts and stopping rumors. The Republicans did nothing, SG Koop eventually convinced Reagan to speak about it, after 6 years or so, after more than 20,000 Americans were in the grave and another 50,000 infected.
I find your post to be historically deluded. What you are seeing with Ebola is exponentially better than the vicious non reaction to HIV/AIDS from the Reagan administration. In what you call 'the old days' mainstream America and DC were having 'morning in America' while the rest of us were in mourning for America.
'It was better in the old days' is bullshit on toast.

[RKP5637]

89. Yes, I agree! I should have thought my post better through than a knee jerk! I had so

many friends die of AIDS because of the Reagan administration. I mentioned it in the latter part of my post, but it should have been more emphasized!

[AngryOldDem]

97. And I can't say I'm too pleased with this Ebola "czar"

I may have missed something (it's hard trying to keep up with news while at work) but I saw no medical background or experience with this man at all. To many people, it's looking like just one more political appointment.

We need a surgeon general. Congress needs to put its petty, juvenile dislike of Obama aside and do their jobs -- which is acting in the PUBLIC'S interest. This is exactly the result when they don't. People pay the price.

[lunasun]

53. THIS person did not have any contact with the patient do you think lab specimens are read by eveyon

handling them and they remember every specimen pt. name if there even was a full one usually the track number is what is large print. They may have located the person based on trying to quarantine them now based on new procedures made ...yesterday
Read the OP because that is my understanding and most lab specs leave the pt. area to be worked up by groups never in contact with the initial area taken

[AngryOldDem]

98. Not what I heard.

I heard she was in contact with specimens. There should have been protocols in place way before this happened. It should be SOP in every hospital to have procedures about how to deal with highly infectious/contageous people, and those procedures begin with directives from the CDC.

Maybe it's time to invite Doctors Without Borders here so they can show the CDC how it's done.

[customerserviceguy]

52. How did I know

even before reading this that it was Carnival involved somehow?

[In_The_Wind]

55. Indeed! ... and now we hear the flying nurse was feeling ill on both flights.

[pinboy3niner]

65. Her uncle said on CNN that those reports are false

He said that she did not begin to feel ill until after she returned home.

[WinkyDink]

72. He also says AV did NOT call the CDC.

[TorchTheWitch]

79. the CDC has already confirmed that they approved both of her flights

Apparently she called TX health officials who then contacted the CDC, and they did because she was confirmed by the CDC to take both the outgoing and incoming flights. Her uncle for whatever reason is stirring the pot. Doesn't matter what he believes since the CDC has already said they confirmed both flights and that her temp wasn't high enough. The CDC also apologized for allowing her to fly in either direction.

[In_The_Wind]

74. The false report was on ABC News early this morning. Thanks for the update.

[sendero]

58. This is what happens when people..

... listen to an ill-considered propaganda campaign stressing how DIFFICULT it is to catch ebola.

Guess what, IT's NOT.

[MattBaggins]

81. what nonsense

[WinkyDink]

71. "Trains and boats and planes...." SING it with me!

[Shadowflash]

73. So.. ONE random person of a total of 4633 persons...

... has some vague symptoms of being ill and people are automatically thinking Ebola?

People get sick on cruise ships all the time.

[Logical]

96. Great point! The flu could look like Ebola. More mindless panic! Nt

[JoePhilly]

75. SINK IT!!!!!!

[flamingdem]

84. A third report said that the Belizian Navy

Is on the way with cannonballs!

[unblock]

76. EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE MEDICAL PROFESSION SHOULD LIVE IN SEALED VAULTS!!!!

maybe if we make helping someone with an illness so completely oppressive, everyone with an illness will die from neglect!!

in fact, why don't we just ban nursing entirely!!

hey, we could wipe out *all* infectious diseases that way!!

AWESOME!!

[lunasun]

100. +1

[yellowcanine]

87. Hell if it is a cruise ship it could be anything.

Those things are floating epidemics.

[TBF]

94. At least Belize knows how to

protect her citizens.

[Logical]

95. Who has symptoms????? Misleading post! nt

[ZombieHorde]

101. I am not finding these articles very helpful.

I am not blaming you, boomer55. The articles are interesting, but they're not as informative as I would like them to be. It's almost as if the articles were written strictly for cash, and informing the public to the Ebola situation isn't an important consideration.

[In_The_Wind]

103. That was fun! A short round trip to nowhere. Next stop TEXAS.