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applegrove

(118,654 posts)
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 12:04 AM Oct 2014

"Amid Assurances on Ebola, Obama Is Said to Seethe"

Last edited Sat Oct 18, 2014, 01:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Amid Assurances on Ebola, Obama Is Said to Seethe

By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and MARK LANDLER at the NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/amid-assurances-on-ebola-obama-is-said-to-seethe.html

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Those frustrations spilled over when Mr. Obama convened his top aides in the Cabinet room after canceling his schedule on Wednesday. Medical officials were providing information that later turned out to be wrong. Guidance to local health teams was not adequate. It was unclear which Ebola patients belonged in which threat categories.

“It’s not tight,” a visibly angry Mr. Obama said of the response, according to people briefed on the meeting. He told aides they needed to get ahead of events and demanded a more hands-on approach, particularly from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “He was not satisfied with the response,” a senior official said.


The difference between the public and private messages illustrates the dilemma Mr. Obama faces on Ebola — and a range of other national security issues — as he tries to galvanize the response to a public health scare while not adding to the sense of panic fueled by 24-hour cable TV and the nonstop Twitter chatter.

People briefed on a cabinet meeting said Mr. Obama was angry at the Ebola response. Credit Jabin Botsford/The New York Times






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"Amid Assurances on Ebola, Obama Is Said to Seethe" (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2014 OP
Will he fire anyone? MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #1
Yeah, how about firing no-regulations Texans. Control-Z Oct 2014 #4
too bad he can't actually do that, since that's where the horrible, anti-human rw culture incubates BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #13
Texas Health Resources is non-profit. n/t meaculpa2011 Oct 2014 #19
It is no different from the NSA stuff BlueStreak Oct 2014 #2
I am glad he is upset and look forward to seeing what happens next. uppityperson Oct 2014 #3
I'm glad he is angry. Rod Beauvex Oct 2014 #5
Seems a reasonable response to me. oldandhappy Oct 2014 #6
Why no link? nt tblue37 Oct 2014 #7
Sorry. I forgot. applegrove Oct 2014 #9
Thanks. nt tblue37 Oct 2014 #12
Here's the NYT link. hedda_foil Oct 2014 #8
It looks bad, particularly given that they've been telling us since August "We're ready for ebola" Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #10
So what happens when your computer stinks KMOD Oct 2014 #11
No worries The Traveler Oct 2014 #14
Thanks, Trav! :) n/t KMOD Oct 2014 #16
So angry that if you listen closely, you can almost hear the sound whereisjustice Oct 2014 #15
He has a right to be mad. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #17
Well, his reasoning for allowing travel from those areas was based boston bean Oct 2014 #18

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
13. too bad he can't actually do that, since that's where the horrible, anti-human rw culture incubates
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 02:18 AM
Oct 2014

......(Yes, I used a disease metaphor. So sue me.)......

Greedy reich-wing privatisation conservatives (and their corporate handlers) put mind-boggling amounts of attention to steering the public mind, twisting normal, long-respected understandings of human decency into sadistic, self-absorbed narcissism. And religious zealotry.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
2. It is no different from the NSA stuff
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 12:26 AM
Oct 2014

Bureaucracies are programmed to propagandize everything, and the propaganda is calibrated to maximize the self-preservation and aggregation of power by the bureaucracy. It is hereditary -- an evolved instinct that happens every time.

And Obama goes along with it because, well what option does he have? The president isn't all that powerful in these situations.

Rod Beauvex

(564 posts)
5. I'm glad he is angry.
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 12:44 AM
Oct 2014

What the hell did he expect putting a bunch of lobbyists and corporate stooges in his cabinet?

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
6. Seems a reasonable response to me.
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 01:01 AM
Oct 2014

I support the president. And I rather suspect that he will be glad to get out of the WH. It has been a cruel time for him.

I respect his graciousness in all circumstances. With this ebola thing: 1) Texas hospital needs to be investigated and the head fired, not a low level person; 2) resources need to be given to foreign airports to aid their pre-flight screening; 3) anyone involved in care of patients needs to not travel during the 21 days after their last shift with a patient; 4) we need to ramp up the possibility of inoculations or maybe treatment as preventative for all health care workers.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. It looks bad, particularly given that they've been telling us since August "We're ready for ebola"
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 01:42 AM
Oct 2014

Maybe they should have spent less time telling us how ready they were, and more time actually getting ready.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
11. So what happens when your computer stinks
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 01:48 AM
Oct 2014

and you rec too many times, then you undo, but wish to rec again just once?

Anyway, nice post. I'm glad the President is upset.

Edit: Never mind, I was able to rec after a few seconds. Forgive me while I figure out the forum.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
15. So angry that if you listen closely, you can almost hear the sound
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 02:56 AM
Oct 2014

of his hand as it almost makes contact with the wrist of CDC Director Tom Frieden.

It's the same strategy that Eric Holder used when disciplining Wall Street banks.

Some say it's torture, unforgivable.

But there's nothing too extreme in the defense of our nation.

I guess I'm just a patriot.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
17. He has a right to be mad.
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 10:04 AM
Oct 2014

There's 40 years of experience with Ebola. The CDC has no excuse for not knowing current facts about the virus.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
18. Well, his reasoning for allowing travel from those areas was based
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 10:08 AM
Oct 2014

on the CDC saying we could handle it here.

That was shown to be false, by anyone who even takes a quick glance at the headlines.

Hospitals in this country, no matter what the CDC says, are not equipped nor trained to handle ebola. Also, their own guidelines were a complete clusterfuck. No hair coverings, skin showing, no foot protection...

And hospitals pointing the finger back to the CDC. They have a point. Although, they aren't blameless either.

It's been a clusterfuck all the way around. So, we should stop the travel from those areas into this country. African countries have already applied travel bans from the area, but from infected areas, one can hop a plane and travel internationally. WTH??

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