Crowd of Democrats walk out while President Obama speaks

[3rdwaydem]

Very disrespectful of both a great man and his office. Story below:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799603/crowds-walk-obama-speech-rare-campaign-trail-appearance.html

[Beaverhausen]

1. Not this again

[madamesilverspurs]

2. Already debunked, as of yesterday.

[former9thward]

11. Were you there?

I guess it depends on what you mean by "debunked".

A New York Times reporter was there.

Before Mr. Obama’s speech ended, a steady trickle of people had departed, leaving some empty seats. And an immigration activist interrupted the speech, holding a sign demanding that “#Not1more” immigrant be deported. As the crowd bellowed the protester away, Mr. Obama suggested that he “should have been protesting the folks that are blocking” an immigration overhaul.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/us/back-on-trail-obama-aids-maryland-democrat.html?module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3Ar%2C%7B%222%22%3A%22RI%3A16%22%7D&_r=0

[KittyWampus]

13. From the article YOU link to:

In a jam-packed gymnasium, Mr. Obama urged the mostly African-American crowd of 8,000 to shake off any midterm malaise and show up on Nov. 4 to put Mr. Brown in the governor’s mansion.

[former9thward]

15. You said the OP was debunked.

The OP was about people leaving. The NYT said they did.

[KittyWampus]

18. The implication is that people unhappy w/Obama were leaving. NOT THE CASE.

let's look at the comment > a steady stream… leaving empty seats.

Now, if people leave OF COURSE THERE ARE EMPTY SEATS.

The only reason to put "empty seats" is if one is trying to make a negative impression.

And all accounts call it a large, overflowing and enthusiastic crowd.

So why point out some people leaving AND point to their "empty seats"?

It falsely characterizes the event in a negative light intentionally. On purpose.

At large events some people always leave towards the end to get out before the mass exodus.

[former9thward]

19. I am happy you can read their minds.

I can't. I don't know why they left.

[KittyWampus]

22. But you can read articles and accounts that point to a large, enthusiastic crowd.

From a Baltimore newspaper:

A steady stream of people, meanwhile, left the event shortly after the president began speaking. It was not clear whether they were escaping the gym's heat — at least one person was carried out by stretcher — or for some other reason. Many carried signs and wore T-shirts for Brown, and many had waited hours to attend.

[former9thward]

31. I'm sure it was large and enthusiastic.

I would like to see the President. The only question was whether some people left or not. Posters said that was made up. It was not, no matter what reason they had.

[snooper2]

35. Same reason you leave the game early, beat the crowd trying to get out of the parking lot

but that wouldn't fit with a narrative LOL

[AgingAmerican]

39. You do that

...when your team is losing.

[KittyWampus]

41. Do you leave if the heat is unbearable to the point people get carried out on stretchers?

as is the case at the event in question?

Because I posted just that info upthread/

Maybe you missed it.

Or maybe you just wanted to buy into the "losing team" crap.

I don't know.

[snooper2]

42. Or your team is kicking ass and there is no chance they would lose-

Or you want to get to your favorite pub before it is packed-

Or you are broke and done paying $14 for a beer-

Or your ass hurts-

Or you have to work in the morning-

Or, okay, done, I can do this all day LOL

[bobclark86]

67. Don't most places stop selling beer in the third quarter? n/t

[LanternWaste]

56. I am happy that most can see the obvious.

I am happy that most can see the obvious. Bless the hearts of the intransigent who refuses to see that same obviousness...

[ieoeja]

75. That poster attacks Dems, attacks Chicago, defends Reagan or sides with Israel.

That last is old school Liberal. The rest...?

[former9thward]

86. Attacks Chicago?

That's funny. Is that you Rahm? I do stand with Israel as does the Democratic Party. Maybe you would be more comfortable in a Party that attacks Israel.

[ieoeja]

109. I generally support Israel as well. As I said, you are "old school Liberal" on that one topic.

I was simply making a statement of fact. I have only seen four types of posts from you.

1. Chicago sucks.
2. Democrats suck.
3. Leave Reagan alone!
4. Israel kicks ass.

[former9thward]

110. I am sure you will link to where I have ever said "Leave Reagan alone!"

Or "Democrats suck". I lived in Chicago for 30 years and participated in politics there for that length of time. Yes, the Chicago machine does suck and destroys any progressive movement there.

[ieoeja]

111. Too easy

Defending Reagan:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4623797
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2901413
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4995225
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=812471

I could go on.



And here’s a golden oldie: spreading the “Daley stole the 1960 election” myth. Nixon initiated a recount in Illinois that year which turned up far more voter irregularities downstate than in Chicago. But then, you were a Chicago lifer, so you would already know that. Yet, for some strange reason, choose to ignore that fact.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021434422#post27

[former9thward]

118. Everyone of those posts I inserted actual facts into the discussion

Apparently facts bother you so you create a "defending Reagan" strawman. I notice you did not counter any facts I brought up.

No, Nixon did not initiate a recount. That is false. A candidate can't recount anything. That is done by the state.

Nixon's campaign staff urged him to pursue recounts and challenge the validity of Kennedy's victory in several states, especially in Illinois, Missouri and New Jersey, where large majorities in Catholic precincts handed Kennedy the election.[36] However, Nixon gave a speech three days after the election stating that he would not contest the election.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1960

Now you will scream I am "defending Nixon". No, just trying to counter make it up as you go along posts.

[ieoeja]

123. Republicans requested a recount which Illinois granted. But they had to pay for it.

When the recount turned up more irregularites downstate than in Chicago, they cancelled the recount.

And you just fucking did it right in this post! You carry so much fucking Republican water that you can't stop yourself from doing it in response to someone accusing you of it!

We point out the Illinois myth. You find the following:

Nixon's campaign staff urged him to pursue recounts and challenge the validity of Kennedy's victory in several states, especially in Illinois, Missouri and New Jersey, where large majorities in Catholic precincts handed Kennedy the election.[36] However, Nixon gave a speech three days after the election stating that he would not contest the election.[36] The Republican National Chairman, Senator Thruston Ballard Morton of Kentucky, visited Key Biscayne, Florida, where Nixon had taken his family for a vacation, and pushed for a recount.[36] Morton did challenge the results in 11 states,[37] keeping challenges in the courts into the summer of 1961. However, the only result of these challenges was the loss of Hawaii to Kennedy on a recount.

But that is not what you posted. You made the special effort to edit this paragraph to exclude the highlighted portion that included the fact that recounts continued until well after JFK was sworn into office.

You just did it. Again.

[former9thward]

131. Look at the footnote and read the article.

It is by Gerald Posner a famous plagiarist who tried to stop debate on the Kennedy and King assassinations. He was fired from one publication for plagiarism and he made up quotes and facts in his books.

The Miami New Times also found that Posner "seems to add, subtract, or misattribute quotes" and displayed a series of such "apparently altered or misattributed quotes". For all the examples shown, Posner cited a source article, where an examination of the source showed that the quote given in Posner's writing was either substantially altered (e.g., words added), never said by the subject, misattributed, or used out of context.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Posner

In the IL article Posner cites absolutely nobody for his "recount" and "grand juries" comments.

If you want to rely on that BSer go for it.

[3rdwaydem]

136. Yes, Israel does kick ass so to speak

While Democrats don't suck, Chicago's Mayor is a different matter. He's not done a good job. As to Reagan, he's been dead for years and was reelected with 49 states. I disagreed with many thing he stood for but, I say it serves no useful purpose to attack him (he left office in the 80s) when there are many Republican office holders to the Right of him who hold office now.

So, I'm more in agreement with you ieoeja.

[LanternWaste]

120. his bias is intransigent and he is unwilling to perceive views outside that same bias.

His ability to see the obvious is as factual as his observation that Kitty Wampus can see read people's minds.

I.e., I think his bias is intransigent and he is unwilling to perceive views outside that same bias.

I agree with your observation vis-a-vis the poster's tenacious defense of much of the GOP platform.

From that, we take what we will.

[ieoeja]

124. He just edited an excerpt to defend Nixon to prove that he does not defend Republicans.

He once called me a liar for posting something I personally witnessed in 1985. Since I did not have a link (1985?!?), I must be lying. I only waste my time in case others are reading his bullshit and believing it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

71. To get a jump on traffic, perhaps?

[former9thward]

89. If you came to see the President would you leave early

"to get a jump on the traffic"? Besides, its 8,000 people. I have left games with 60,000 people and the traffic is no big deal. As I said I can't read minds. I have no idea why they left. But I do know all these creative explanations would not have been given if people left when Bush was speaking.

[Tarheel_Dem]

92. Don't know why you find it strange that "Democrats" support/defend the "Democrat" on a.....

"Democratic" website whose mission statement is electing more "Democrats", a "Democrat" most of us voted for TWICE. It was never our job to defend the Republican president on "Democratic" Underground. That's what Free Republic and Firedog Lake are for. See how that works?

[former9thward]

99. I believe in facts.

You may think that "defense" means ignoring facts. "Ideology" is more important. That is a totalitarian point of view -- not liberal in any respect. That fact that a few people left a speech sends you into a tailspin. So you have to say it never happened or make various excuses for it. So some people left. Who cares? Only people who think Obama is God and it would be impossible for people to leave.

[Tarheel_Dem]

100. And some people think he's scum. I think a more important question is why you needed so desperately

for the story to be true, even after it's been shown that the house was packed, and it was an overflow crowd. Better still, I'm quite interested in why you thought any "Democrat" on a "Democratic" site, devoted to electing "Democrats" would waste one millisecond trying to debunk a story about a former president none of us voted for (or so we've been led to believe).

And "God" is your characterization, which actually sounds kinda teabaggerish if you think about it, but hey...it's the new DU. Anything goes, I guess.

[NanceGreggs]

102. "I think a more important question is why you needed so desperately ...

... for the story to be true."

Yeah, there's a lot of that going around lately. The fact that it's going around on a "Democratic" website speaks for itself.

"Hey, it's the new DU. Anything goes, I guess." Yup, anything goes - literally "anything".

[Tarheel_Dem]

119. Fascinating ain't it?

[liberal from boston]

98. President Obama

Crooks & Liars link: http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/obama-speaks-packed-rally-overflow-crowd

[Kingofalldems]

63. Don't see anyone leaving here.

Good try.

https://twitter.com/quiltanddagger/status/524021150972530689

[former9thward]

68. So the NYT reporter made it up.

Got it. Is there any publication that does not fabricate news in your world?

[Kingofalldems]

78. Sentence #3 is made up.

Take it out please.

[liberal from boston]

115. Good try

Thanks for the link Kingofalldems. I provided a link from Crooks & Liars on previous post that explains no one walked out. This is a paragraph from the crooks & liars link:

"So I’m going to make a long speech in there. But I had to come to the folks who didn’t get a seat. Because this is a group right here that is truly enthusiastic,” Obama said to much applause from the excited overflow crowd, which POOL reported “included more than a few shrieking women and girls.”

President Obama campaigned for gubernatorial candidate Anthony Brown in Maryland Sunday afternoon to a sold out crowd of 8,000, according to the Upper Marlboro Fire Marshall. This meant there were folks waiting in the Wise High School overflow room/gym, so POTUS was kind enough to stop in there and address them before the rally."

[Kingofalldems]

117. So the people leaving were on orders from the fire marshall?

[librechik]

3. Those were shills. Dems don't restrict their rallies

We welcomed them in. No evidence whatsoever that they were in fact Dems, just because they showed up for the rally.

Shame on you (again) Daily Mail!

[Newsjock]

4. More untrue bullshit from the Daily Mail.

Please consider self-deleting.

[Control-Z]

73. Fat chance.

I'm beginning to think this one thrives on negative posts.

[malaise]

5. SSDD

[djean111]

6. Again? Debunked. Getting to look like a game, posting this at DU, really.

[KittyWampus]

7. Debunked. It was in Maryland. Big, enthusiastic crowd.

[Cha]

101. IN Maryland! Yeah, right the Dems walked out.. File that under BULLSHIT. Pics..

Josh Lederman ✔ @joshledermanAP
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The scene at @BrownforMD rally in Upper Marlboro as crowd awaits @BarackObama
9:36 AM - 19 Oct 2014



Anthony G. Brown @BrownforMD
Follow
Long line of folks already here to see @BarackObama & @BrownforMd!
7:22 AM - 19 Oct 2014


Antonio Hayes @CFAntonioHayes
Follow
Show time is almost here! #MDVotes
10:44 AM - 19 Oct 2014

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/10/19/the-president-speaks-at-a-rally-for-anthony-brown-in-maryland/

[Hassin Bin Sober]

104. Those people were all leaving.

Just moving real slow.

Obama flew over my house today and didn't even wave. Thanks, Obama!


If you look close in the trees you can see the Osprey. (I couldn't get on my roof deck quick enough)



I have a better picture from a couple weeks ago of two Marine One choppers and an Osprey heading south over the lake.

[Cha]

106. Oh my BAD.. "they're leaving!".. Rofl, HBS.. I got me magnifying glass out to look at your

Osprey.. can't tell but see the black dots between the trees and know what they are, thanks to you!

Mahalo, Hassin

[Hassin Bin Sober]

107. Here's a better pic a friend sent from Northwestern stop weeks ago

And one I took from that trip





That's twice he spurned me. And I voted for him like 5 times. See if I vote for him again.

[Cha]

108. "Spurned Voter".. Rofl! Thank you for the additional pics!

[Ykcutnek]

8. Reeks of a setup. nt

[Turbineguy]

9. And the comments!

Did this actually happen?

Maybe the story was put out there just to see what vile comments would be made.

[elleng]

25. No, it didn't happen.

THIS did: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-brown-hogan-obama-20141019-story.html

[JustAnotherGen]

10. So you know - this exact same 'story' was hidden by a DU Jury

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10025688626

Yesterday.

BTW - Daily Mail reported on the Far Hills NJ Horse Race on Saturday and every single pic was of the 2000 early 20-somethings getting smashed.


Zero focus on the 30K NOT getting smashed.

So - it's probably not a good source in terms of telling us how things really are.

[Nye Bevan]

14. That's the problem with juries hiding OPs such as this one.

Instead of it getting rightfully ridiculed and debunked, it is hidden and it sinks, then someone else falls for the story and posts it as an OP.

[JustAnotherGen]

17. Exactly

I was not on the jury - I did not respond to it - because I felt the first one showed it for the nonsense it was.

[elleng]

24. Right. Thanks.

Baltimore Sun had a REAL story: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-brown-hogan-obama-20141019-story.html

[JustAnotherGen]

33. From your article

Speaking to an overflow room before the Brown event, Obama told supporters that "this will be a done deal if you vote."

Though his approval ratings have slipped in much of the country, Obama remains popular in Maryland, where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by more than 2-to-1. That is particularly true among African-American voters, 98 percent of whom have a favorable view of the president, according to a recent statewide poll.

So - you mean to tell me - the op is nonsense?

[elleng]

47. You said it!

and I live here, 35 miles from the venue at issue, but I stayed home, on the river, where it was WINDY yesterday!

Sounds like someones playing 'games,' and we know who that would be!

[Cha]

105. From President Obama in your link, ellen~~~~

"You deserve leaders that don't root for failure, don't try to re-fight the old battles, don't try to peddle fear," the president told about 8,000 people — mainly African-Americans — packed into a high school gymnasium in Upper Marlboro. "If you want good policies to continue in Maryland, you've got to vote for it. "


Josh Lederman ✔ @joshledermanAP
Follow
The scene at @BrownforMD rally in Upper Marlboro as crowd awaits @BarackObama
9:36 AM - 19 Oct 2014



Anthony G. Brown @BrownforMD
Follow
Long line of folks already here to see @BarackObama & @BrownforMd!
7:22 AM - 19 Oct 2014


Antonio Hayes @CFAntonioHayes
Follow
Show time is almost here! #MDVotes
10:44 AM - 19 Oct 2014

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/10/19/the-president-speaks-at-a-rally-for-anthony-brown-in-maryland/

Lucky you, ellen.. first I've seen of Anthony Brown.. am I allowed to say he's lookin' good?! LOL

[elleng]

116. Thanks, Cha!

and this is 'near' me!

[bettyellen]

82. I effing love Far Hills, and go for the VNA rummage sale twice a year...

and was once one of those 20K drunks too.

[m-lekktor]

94. yeah i was trying to figure out what rule was broken

for that to get hidden. I agree that Daily Mail is a stupid right wing rag but it is quite often used as a source here at DU though people only trash it if they don't like what is being reported. i have seen articles from the Daily Mail posted here and nobody says boo if it is a story most like.

[Cha]

103. This OP finally got one Rec.. must be so proud! And am wondering whatever could

their agendas be?!

Actually the one that got a Hide did get a lot of comments and Ridicule! :_

Gen

[TwilightGardener]

12. Not buying it. I once saw George W. Bush speak, at a military base--

I didn't like him at all, but there's no way my family or I would have left, because he was still the President. It's illogical that a crowd would turn up for a Democratic state yokel, and then suddenly leave when the President appears. Just doesn't make sense.

[KittyWampus]

16. actually, at big events some people often stream out early to get to their cars and away

before the mass exodus.

In other words, it was almost certainly normal exiting but someone decided to make "a thing" of it.

[TwilightGardener]

23. It may have been that, or it may have been a pre-planned protest or

some other kind of set-up. I don't think it was a bunch of people spontaneously deciding that they didn't want to hear the President speak, which how some in the media are trying to paint it. Like I said, it doesn't make sense--if you BOTHER to show up at a Dem rally, you're not going to leave when the Democratic President appears, no matter what his poll numbers are on any given day.

[KittyWampus]

27. It was probably the heat>>>>

A steady stream of people, meanwhile, left the event shortly after the president began speaking. It was not clear whether they were escaping the gym's heat — at least one person was carried out by stretcher — or for some other reason. Many carried signs and wore T-shirts for Brown, and many had waited hours to attend.

[elleng]

21. Good. It didn't happen.

[hfojvt]

34. Really?

There's no way I would stay and listen to Bush speak.

[TwilightGardener]

40. My husband sort of had to, because Bush was his commander in chief at the time, and

his squadron was encouraging everyone to attend--but I also went to the event and dragged my kids along, because you don't get opportunities to see a President in person all that often. More to do with the office than the person. But that wasn't even a Repub rally. It doesn't make sense that Dems would leave a Dem political rally early because the Dem President appears.

[elleng]

20. This did NOT happen,

too bad daily mail took up reuters failed 'story.' More like this, from Baltimore Sun: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-brown-hogan-obama-20141019-story.html

[KittyWampus]

29. This is from the article you linked to. I also posted this snip 2x upthread.

A steady stream of people, meanwhile, left the event shortly after the president began speaking. It was not clear whether they were escaping the gym's heat — at least one person was carried out by stretcher — or for some other reason. Many carried signs and wore T-shirts for Brown, and many had waited hours to attend.

[elleng]

32. Thanks

[KittyWampus]

37. Thanks to you for finding it. It goes to show how an agenda can be pushed in the media

and it can be so subtle.

[elleng]

50. Yes indeed, subtle,

and due to technology and media, so many 'facts' around, finding 'true' facts more difficult every day.

[elleng]

65. Photo from the event, courtesy of Elija Cummings:

https://www.facebook.com/elijah.cummings.10/photos/pcb.298952173627557/298951816960926/?type=1&theater

[belzabubba333]

26. if you look futher in the dailymail you'll find sightings of batboy

[n2doc]

46. They have an article on Governor pRick Scott? n/t

[DUgosh]

28. Nobody leaving.

https://twitter.com/quiltanddagger/status/524021150972530689

[arcane1]

30. Non-hyperbolic alternate headline: "some people left early" n/t

[FARAFIELD]

36. Welcome Freeper

[bhikkhu]

38. "Not1more" anti-immigration doesn't sound very democratic

Libertarian isolationism, maybe, but that's not my party.

[JaneyVee]

43. Is this another hit it and quit it?

[Bluenorthwest]

44. A crowd of 8,000 with an overflow hall containing more people. It was hot.

Any lengthy large venue event will see a goodly number of early exits, any large venue event does. Attending a large venue event is for some people a rather demanding day. There are a percentage of people for whom egress is much easier in advance of the large crowd, people who must attend to children or medical needs and people who simply have someplace to be. It is a natural and constant trait of large scale events. Hell, hundreds leave their favorite sporting events early just because it is hard to get out of the parking lot if you stay to the end.

Also, the Daily Mail? Must we? Really?

[bravenak]

45. Where you at?????

You should tend to your thread. It's being debunked!!!

[JustAnotherGen]

51. Glad you posted that

elleng has totally smashed the op's narrative to tiny shards of glass.

I was going to say the exact same thing you did!

[bravenak]

52. I hate when people just drop bombs and leave.

Makes it seem a bit trolly.

[JustAnotherGen]

53. And he did it twice today

This is one of two posts.

[bravenak]

54. On the same issue??

[JustAnotherGen]

55. Naaah

For your entertainment.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5690458

[bravenak]

57. My goodness!

I hope the pay is good.

[JustAnotherGen]

58. Maybe it's pay per click

Or something!

[bravenak]

60. Probably!!

The name threw me off at first...... Very slick.

[Bobbie Jo]

48. Concern noted.

Mocking act aside......

[iloveObama12]

49. Nice Try Daily Mail

BROWN/OBAMA 2014

[Tarheel_Dem]

72. Awesome video. Thanks for posting that.

[iloveObama12]

81. U Welcome Thanks

[Number23]

91. Ohhh and they did the Soul Brother, one handed hug and back slap too!

Rush Limbaugh will not be pleased!!

[hedgehog]

59. The photos in the article have ridiculous captions -

one could be of people leaving after the speech,

the other could be of a campaign worker answering a question about registering to vote or volunteering to campaign.

Or, the campaign worker and woman could be exchanging chili recipes; who knows what they were talking about? Certainly not me, and certainly not the Daily Mail!

[cherokeeprogressive]

61. Round'em up.

[fredamae]

62. Funny they don't

interview Any of those leaving to ask them why? Or did I miss that?
Dumb article.

[blogslut]

64. That can be said of virtually every single large event that ever happened.

Some Reuters goon manufactured a narrative out of a most common social gathering behavior and right-wing rags like the Daily Fail eat it up with a spoon.

[elleng]

66. Photo from the event, courtesy of Elija Cummings:

https://www.facebook.com/elijah.cummings.10/photos/pcb.298952173627557/298951816960926/?type=1&theater

See anyone walking out???

[Hekate]

69. Ooooh, thanks for this, Elmer FUD. Enjoy your stay posting debunked stories. nt

[MineralMan]

70. Who would give themselves the DU screen name of 3rdwaydem?

That's just too strange, really. Can you tell us how you arrived at that name? It's really an odd one.

[leftstreet]

74. Show respect. It's probably Hillary

[bigwillq]

87. BWAH!

[woo me with science]

95. ROFLMAO!

BEST RESPONSE OF THE THREAD!

[Tarheel_Dem]

77. +1

[JI7]

83. betterdemsonly ?

[treestar]

90. It is odd - I thought on DU it meant

a supporter of Obama.

[lpbk2713]

76. So many message boards to post on ...

... so little time.


What is it now? A nickel per post?

[B Calm]

79. Daily Mail again, LOL. .

[Tarheel_Dem]

80. I think what we have here is a common, everyday, garden variety.....

[Raine1967]

84. Dearest 3rdwaydem,

Did I get that name correct?

Please consider a self delete. You have been debunked by people who did research beyond your source.

Now I shall trash this thread.

Peace,
Raine

[bettyellen]

85. LOL, you're not fooling anyone, man.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

88. Ha ha ha, this bullshit.

I see the usual suspects are all out in this thread playing their parts.

[fadedrose]

96. How ignorant of them . . . nt

[Rex]

97. This is the best the dailybunk could come up with?

Pathetic.

[True Blue Door]

112. Right, "Democrats."

[3rdwaydem]

113. Unless you think it was a large group of African American GOP plants.

By the way, there is incontrovertible evidence that a significant number of people in the crowd walked out when the President began his speech. This has not been "debunked" as some would claim and even the New York Times, as well as other mainstream media outlets have acknowledged this. Yes, I know some deluded people on this site think the mainstream media regularly lies to support a hidden conservative, corporate agenda. However, for this of us without those mental health challenges, these media outlets are a reliable source for this type of information.

Now, most important of all, the only reason that I posted this thread was to express my dismay over such a disrespectful act (walking out on the President) and more so given what a great man he is. Yet, many of the posters just read my headline and not the rest of the message. Typical of the types of people who leavesome of the half baked comments that I saw.

[arcane1]

121. Calling bullshit on the Daily Mail is now a "mental health challenge"?

Try this one:

Obama Speaks To Packed Rally With Overflow Crowd, Reuters Turns It Against Him

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/obama-speaks-packed-rally-overflow-crowd


Or you can just continue to trust dubious editorializing that fits your agenda.

[3rdwaydem]

122. My agenda is the same as that of President Obama.

Also, I doubt the New York Times has an agenda to fabricate news stories to hurt Obama. I would trust the NYT and Reuters over the website you listed which I have never heard of.

I often find myself on DU defending President Onama from attacks by those here on the far Left. As stated in my original post, which started the thread, I was criticizing those who walked out on President Obama as showing disrespect to a "great man" and his office.

It happened and it was outrageous and made me upset that people would do such a thing. A few angry voices proclaiming on DU that the story was debunked doesn't make it true.

[arcane1]

125. The same New York Times that was the main cheerleader for Bush's Iraq invasion?

Did they bother to ask anyone why they were leaving? You'd need to know that before you can be upset with them, no?

[3rdwaydem]

126. Sorry, you either leave before President Obama takes the stage or after he leaves.

Anything else is showing disrespect to this great man.

[arcane1]

128. Why did they leave?

[3rdwaydem]

129. Instead of asking me all of the questions...

why don't you just invest a little time in reading the news and you can find out for yourself rather than having to let me do the thinking for you.

[kentuck]

114. Have you noticed?

She seems to come out of hiding just before each election?

[3rdwaydem]

132. Michael Shearhe of The New York Times didn't see it that way.

Quote below:

"Whatever the reason, a noticeable stream of people — perhaps 200 or more — started filing out just minutes after the president started making his pitch for Anthony Brown, the Democratic candidate for governor in Maryland."

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2014/10/17/

Debunked huh? Maybe the NYT is part of a conspiracy to fabricate negative news about President Obama?

But let's get back to my original point:

It was tasteless and rude for those people to walk out while our President, a great man, was speaking to them!

THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT BEHIND MY STARTING THE THREAD!

[liberal N proud]

127. The crowd was in an overflow room and left after he stopped by to see THEM

They came to SEE him more than HEAR him.

It is not like the room emptied as he spoke.

[arcane1]

130. Surely you don't expect them to read before judging, do you?

[liberal N proud]

133. The article and the OP are both hit pieces

Look at the post count by the member who posted it. Based on the type of story and the post count, I don't expect they will ever read the responses.

[3rdwaydem]

134. Really? Why don't you look three posts up to 132

for starters.

The point behind the post was in defense of President Obama and critical of the 200 plus who walked out as he began his speech. This at least according to people who were there like the New York Times and Reuters.

[WI_DEM]

135. So maybe 100 people leave early out of 8000 and they make a story out of this?

Maybe they had to get back to work or something and they wanted to see him even if it was for a little bit.