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Tue Oct 21, 2014, 09:59 PM

 

I hope to God that someone was really, really stoned.

Or was hired as part of a support program to get jobs for idiots. Any alternative explanation is too awful to consider.

An email today from Rep. Wasserman Schultz, titled One really super dog:

Manny --

Lately my kids have been asking if they can dress our dogs up for Halloween. I can't blame them, either. I mean, wouldn't Demmy look good as a superhero?

Unfortunately, (or fortunately for Demmy, who doesn't want to wear a costume) Democrats don't have much time for an extended Halloween celebration this year. This election is going to be a close one until the very last second. We're neck-and-neck in important races in states like Wisconsin and Georgia, and we need to make sure we finish strong.

So Manny, will you chip in $3 or more right now?

If you donate $200 today, you'll be on the list of our best supporters we send to the FEC. If you've saved your payment information, your donation will go through immediately.

...


Thanks, Manny -- from Demmy and me both!

Debbie

Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Chair
Democratic National Committee


I'm trying hard to reduce my whining in the weeks before this upcoming election... but holy @#$%...

THIS SHOULD BE ABOUT ASPIRING TO GREAT THINGS. NOT NON SEQUITURS ABOUT DOGGIE COSTUMES.

IT'S ABOUT GOVERNING. GOVERNING. HELPING PEOPLE. STOPPING EVIL.

I CANNOT FUCKING STAND THIS INSANE @#$% ANYMORE.

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Reply I hope to God that someone was really, really stoned. (Original post)
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 OP
PAProgressive28 Oct 2014 #1
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #2
snooper2 Oct 2014 #66
Exultant Democracy Oct 2014 #33
Brigid Oct 2014 #3
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #4
lunasun Oct 2014 #9
Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #11
lunasun Oct 2014 #16
dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #36
FSogol Oct 2014 #61
Jamastiene Oct 2014 #68
malthaussen Oct 2014 #82
Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #93
Jamastiene Oct 2014 #96
MADem Oct 2014 #41
whathehell Oct 2014 #52
merrily Oct 2014 #54
Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #5
fadedrose Oct 2014 #6
Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #32
eridani Oct 2014 #37
rhett o rick Oct 2014 #95
MADem Oct 2014 #42
Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #44
MADem Oct 2014 #46
packman Oct 2014 #88
MADem Oct 2014 #121
Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #7
Doctor_J Oct 2014 #8
Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #10
BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #14
lunasun Oct 2014 #17
Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #18
FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #103
hootinholler Oct 2014 #64
Doctor_J Oct 2014 #21
Savannahmann Oct 2014 #38
laundry_queen Oct 2014 #53
Doctor_J Oct 2014 #86
2banon Oct 2014 #98
MrMickeysMom Oct 2014 #111
BobbyBoring Oct 2014 #65
Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #77
whereisjustice Oct 2014 #12
Volaris Oct 2014 #26
Docross Oct 2014 #118
blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #13
BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #15
zeemike Oct 2014 #19
jeepers Oct 2014 #20
DeSwiss Oct 2014 #22
liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #23
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #25
bettyellen Oct 2014 #113
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #114
bettyellen Oct 2014 #116
Jeff Rosenzweig Oct 2014 #24
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #28
Jeff Rosenzweig Oct 2014 #30
DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #31
MADem Oct 2014 #39
Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #40
DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #48
MADem Oct 2014 #70
DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #49
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #104
JTFrog Oct 2014 #78
Heather MC Oct 2014 #27
MontyPow Oct 2014 #29
Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #43
JVS Oct 2014 #34
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #35
bemildred Oct 2014 #45
randome Oct 2014 #47
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #50
randome Oct 2014 #55
MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #59
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Adrahil Oct 2014 #51
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:02 PM

1. Warren has said multiple times she is not going to run

*Before someone else gives the standard response to Manny*

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Response to PAProgressive28 (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:09 PM

2. It's not the same without the personal attacks attached.

 

But your sentiment warms my heart, thank you!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:16 AM

66. Warren isn't running

 

And I always forget to ask you, do you happen to be handy?

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Response to PAProgressive28 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:56 AM

33. This post seems very rude to a long time member of our community who has earned a bit of respect

for their contribution over the years.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:12 PM

3. Unsubscribe is your friend.

Works for me.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:15 PM

4. That would be like missing the demolition derby at the local fair.

 

I'm still a little puzzled. A friend of mine ran a hearse in a demolition derby, it didn't do particularly well. I'd have thought that it would do better.

In any case, I have unsubscribed, but I guess not often enough.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:52 PM

9. Unsubscribe and mark as spam worked for me - I do gotv foot work through dem county group

But those solicitations had to go and are still gone
Don't miss em esp in an election yr
No one calls me either since I voiced my opinion on many calls
Guess I went to their loser bin which is a win for me

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Response to lunasun (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:57 PM

11. If I could figure out how to do it,

I'd write a little Applescript auto-unsubscribe function.

As it is, my gingers get tired from al my work getting me off these %%$#@ lists.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:04 PM

16. It took awhile but it has been well over a year since I have recvd any and no phone calls either but as i

added above in an edit, I always voiced why on the calls and if they asked for feedback on any unsubs

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 04:04 AM

36. Do you have any secrets about getting off the AARP list?

They have been sending me junk mail for the past 14 years, like clockwork.
With my name on it.
At 3 different addresses in 2 states.

Gotta admire their perseverance.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:27 AM

61. Tell them you are 20. n/t

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:50 AM

68. My gingers get tired too.

I'm sorry. I couldn't resist.

I despise those lists too.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #68)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:44 AM

82. I have cloven gingers, myself.

Sometimes, I get visions where a bearded hippie tells me to "cinammon no more."

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #82)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:55 PM

93. You and Jamastiene hare hereby awarded

the One-Ginger Salute.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #93)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:17 PM

96. w00t!

Thank you!

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Response to lunasun (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:09 AM

41. That's the way to do it.


I've done the same thing--I donate where/when I can, I don't do email solicitations, and I am a real fan of GOTV.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:39 AM

52. Didn't work for me, lol, I have "unsubscribed" unsuccessfully-- She still keeps emailing. n/t

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Response to Brigid (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:47 AM

54. Depends on whether your goal is a cleaner inbox or knowing what is going on, even if

it makes you grit your teeth.

Much like "ignore" on a message board.



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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:16 PM

5. Stoned? ...Debbie W-S never met a pot smoking cancer granny she didnt want arrested.

It's one of the big reasons i cant take her seriously anymore.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:33 PM

6. Since Howard Dean was unceremoniously

not even invited to the ceremony when his successor took his position as Chair of the DNC, I don't pay much attention to her either.

What they did to him was rude. I can't remember all the details, but it went down with a bad taste in my mouth...

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:51 AM

32. Dean did a bang-up job as head of the DNC, I agree.

He built up a ton of political capital that lesser leaders have frittered away.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 04:22 AM

37. Haven't donated to DNC since Dean left

There are still a lot of FDR Dems out there to support with my now limited funds.

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Response to eridani (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:13 PM

95. I haven't either. I donate directly or via Progressive Democratic Organizations outside

 

the Democratic Party.

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Response to MADem (Reply #42)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:17 AM

44. Well there's no law that says she couldn't stick him on the ticket, is there.

That'd probably go a bit of a way towards fence-mending with the folks who haven't forgotten her IWR vote.

She may well be the Nominee, and if so she will be, I suspect, a formidable candidate. I'd like to hear some concrete policy statements- I mean, beyond which Bible verses are her favorite- before I make any sort of decisions about who to support in the Primaries.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:33 AM

46. He wanted Health and Human Services.

That's probably his desired bailiwick.

He doesn't work on the ticket, demographically. Two northeastern candidates from a blue region? That's like preaching to the choir. The only reason that Clinton-Gore worked all those years ago was because they were two blue candidates from a red region.

I think Clinton's Number Two will be younger (as in middle aged), male, Hispanic, possibly. But who knows? She might just say screw the paradigms and do something completely different.

I wouldn't object to that pairing--I don't think most people would.

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Response to MADem (Reply #46)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:17 PM

88. I really dislike what they did to Dean also

seems like they not only threw him under the bus, but backed it up and ran over him again. The guy masterminded, IMHO, with his 50 state strategy and saved the Democratic party and propelled Obama into the White House.

According to Wikipedia:

"Since retiring from the DNC chairman position, Dean has held neither elected office nor an official position in the Democratic Party "

Which is a fucking shame.

His treatment reminded me of a party purging reminiscent of one party overthrowing another then getting rid of the people who steered and led that revolution.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Dean

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Response to packman (Reply #88)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 06:01 AM

121. Well, if we keep the WH in 2016, he could enjoy an important second chapter.

It would be interesting having someone with a medical background AND a shitload of charisma directing the trajectory of medical care into the 21st Century. Who knows, maybe he could be the point man for Single Payer?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:36 PM

7. Cute e-mail. nt

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:39 PM

8. There doesn't seem to be anything in the e-mail telling us what to expect in ireturn for our support

 

either. I'm guessing TPP, XL, more fracking, and a ramping up of Arne Duncan's quest to do away with public schools. Maybe if we all send $3 we can send more troops to the ME.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:54 PM

10. You're too fucking cynical.

As a matter of fact, they're planning to use the money on a consolation party celebrating their own ineptitude when they get their asses handed to them in two weeks.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:00 PM

14. Or some new boxing gloves for hippie punching n/t

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Response to BuelahWitch (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:05 PM

17. +1

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Response to BuelahWitch (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:06 PM

18. No shit.

That's gonna be the main event at the party. Gotta pound the crap out of them there hippie progressives that cost them the election by not getting all fired up at the party's grand display of mediocrity.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:57 PM

103. "the party's grand display of mediocrity"

It's worse than just mediocrity. Many of the Dems have a not-so-secret love affair with the GOP's policies (and benefactors).

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Response to BuelahWitch (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:07 AM

64. That would be an improvement!

Getting punched with padded gloves sure is better than the lead shot filled ones they wear now.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:20 PM

21. that's fine as long as I get my embossed invitation.

 

The local goodwill store has tuxedos for $15 and I have friends in the dc area I can stay with. I'm there!

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 04:25 AM

38. Here is what the election is all about.

 

The really big issue if you will. We are in favor of winning. We are opposed to losing. We promise two more years of gridlock if we hold the Senate. We are furious that the Republicans might win, we are hopeful that they lose.

Our national campaign strategy was complicated. We hoped the republicans would lose for us.

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Response to Savannahmann (Reply #38)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:13 AM

53. LOL. That's about it. nt

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Response to Savannahmann (Reply #38)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:13 PM

86. You have captured our party's inspirational message

 

"vote Dem, because if you don't, the Republicans will win, and they're even worse"

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #86)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:29 PM

98. That's the best says-it-all one liner I've read in a long time..

 

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #86)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:18 PM

111. Yes, I believe you've gotten it right….

Won't fit on a bumper sticker, but sure sums it up….

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:11 AM

65. You get on the list of bestest donators!

What more could you ask for?

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Response to BobbyBoring (Reply #65)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:32 AM

77. "Bestest Donators." Hey! This isn't a porno site.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:58 PM

12. It's come to this...

"My kids have been bugging me about food and medicine. Who can blame them? I'd love to see my kids off to school in a fresh set of clothes. Unfortunately, Democrats don't have time for family this year. The election is going to be a close one. So I've decided to sell my kids at auction. With the proceeds, I can help our side win.

No children? No worries. Organ donation is a great way to give. You can help win our neck and neck races by donating your own flesh and blood.

Can we count on your help today? For each boy child or kidney, we'll show our appreciation by sending you our bumper sticker with the stunning corporate friendly (D) logo.

Thanks,

Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Chair
Democratic National Committee

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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:42 PM

26. IS there a way to just go ahead and send the Party a vial of my own blood?

Because Wall Street damn sure wants it, and if there just HAS to be a middle-man in the "I-get-to-get-fucked-either-way" transaction, I suppose I want it to go to the people who will at least whisper sweet nothings in my ear while the deed is done...



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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:45 PM

118. whereisj

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:59 PM

13. "Demmy" shows the utter contempt by these so-called "leaders," for what Democrats stand for. Money

 

whores for the 1%, each and every one of 'em.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:03 PM

15. Manny, are you suggesting our "friends across the aisle" are evil?

DWS lurrrrrves her some Republicans! Just ask the Florida Democrats!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:12 PM

19. Yep I get them too

And they use every well known name to see if they can squeeze a few more dollars out of us.
But I un subscribed to the DNC a while back and now I get even more of them...so I assume they just sell your email to others to use.
Fuck this shit...we have to get money out of politics...not feed it with more.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:15 PM

20. sounds like a good marketing plan to me

Fox sells the fear of losing to the rabidly insane and fundraisers rake in the contributions which are then spent on Fox to convince voters that we aren't losing all that badly. Send more money. What's three bucks?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:34 PM

22. No, no, not a superhero!

 

Demi should be costumed as usual, a priest who gets sloshed occasionally and neglects his mother:



- I'm assuming that ''Demmy'' is the secret nickname for ''sooner crossbreeds'' that are sired from the more formal breeds of political lapdog Democrats.


We know who the mother is in this email. So who tha' daddy!?!?!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:37 PM

23. "Hired as part of an affirmative

action program to get jobs for idiots?" Really? Seriously? You actually not only typed that but posted it? WOW.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:42 PM

25. Yeah, that could be misunderstood

 

Changed.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:23 PM

113. Not misunderstood, not surprising either.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #113)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:25 PM

114. I'm a menace to society.

 

But the jury came back 2-5, so for now I'm still at large.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #114)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:32 PM

116. well equating idiots with those who benefit from affirmative actions was an interesting leap you

 

took there Manny. That's pretty harsh, dontcha think?


Inevitable jury- pls look back where Manny admits he actually originally wrote "affirmative action" to explain idiot w/ jobs in the OP and then changed it, thanks!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:39 PM

24. You got one thing absolutely right.

You're trying hard.

Very hard.

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Response to Jeff Rosenzweig (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:11 AM

28. Can you write a letter to Karl Rove

 

Attesting to my efforts? I could use a raise.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:20 AM

30. Why is it you never see fit to respond

when I actually agree with you on something, and even compliment you on it? If I didn't know better, I'd say you're trying to hurt my feelings.

And of course I don't know Karl Rove any more than you do, so I can't see him giving a damn what I might say. I also don't subscribe to the fashionable (and patently lazy, scurrilous and cheap) theory that people I disagree with are paid to post here.

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Response to Jeff Rosenzweig (Reply #30)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:47 AM

31. You have 43 posts - what is your context for 'never' ?? n/t

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Response to DeadLetterOffice (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:04 AM

39. Check the poster's sig line--he has more than 43 posts at DU.

See the "Me in happier times" link? He was "JeffR" on the old DU. He has more posts than YOU do--unless you are a retread/name change as well.

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Response to MADem (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:08 AM

40. WE NEED THE DUZYS BACK, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Seriously. We NEEDS it.



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Response to MADem (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:56 AM

48. Ah, sorry -- have sig lines turned off!

Was just going by his current post count and couldn't figure out how 'never' and '43' went together.

My bad.

(And no, I'm not a retread, I've only been around a little over a year)

Peace,
DLO

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Response to DeadLetterOffice (Reply #48)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:44 AM

70. Lots of people did the retread thing when the admins offered that amnesty on DU2

So people could get rid of their dated names like GoreLieberman4Evah or what have you! I wasn't suggesting any sockery or anything on those lines~!

Anyway, that guy has 17K + posts on Old DU...

Peace backatcha!

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Response to Jeff Rosenzweig (Reply #30)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:57 AM

49. Apologies

I don't see sig lines, so I missed that you're a returning person from olden days. My bad. Carry on.

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Response to Jeff Rosenzweig (Reply #30)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 04:39 PM

104. I'll invoke Hanlon's razor

 

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

It's not particularly my nature to acknowledge compliments, perhaps because they leave me so astonished, but I'll try to do better in the future.

As to Mr. Rove... as you write, it has become fashionable to accuse people of being paid shills for Rove, Rand Paul, or whoever. I assumed that your observation that I'm trying was a sarcastic way of accusing me of that. I apologize if I was wrong, and appreciate that you can understand that people can disagree without cash motivations.

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Response to Jeff Rosenzweig (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:36 AM

78. +1 n/t

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:49 PM

27. you still read those emails begging for money

 

They are worse than the Nigerian prince email scam.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:13 AM

29. What do you expect?

 

She's a BlueDog Loser who unravelled everything Howard Dean had achieved.

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Response to MontyPow (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:13 AM

43. She's got her finger on the pulse of the voters!

For instance, the voters are apparently extremely concerned about a lack of arrests of medical marijuana patients.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:57 AM

34. Is the FEC some kind of hall of fame for political donors or would they send your name there out...

of some kind of legal obligation to report the money they received?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:12 AM

35. Save it for when Hillary runs....

 

Why waste a good collapse into insanity before then?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:17 AM

45. Any response just encourages them.

That is not really Ms W-s anyway, is it?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:46 AM

47. 'Stopping evil?' Democrats are super-heroes now?

 

Sure, it's a lame email. And yeah, some coordinated messaging would be very welcome. But 'stopping evil'? When did that become part of the conversation?
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Response to randome (Reply #47)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:35 AM

50. Are Republican policies not evil?

 

Or should Democrats not be responsible for stopping (and even reversing) them?

Or both?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #50)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:52 AM

55. You've fallen for the fallacy that we MUST have opposition parties.

 

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Local politicians run on local issues. I'd rather hear less about what the 'other guy' is doing and more about what 'our guy' will do. And that doesn't happen nearly enough these days. But absent compelling evidence to the contrary, it's always safest to vote Democratic.

There's a positive message for you. Well, okay, it's not all that positive but it's not negative, either!
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Response to randome (Reply #55)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:21 AM

59. We are here, and it is now.

 

Perhaps you can rattle off a few non-evil policies pushed by today's Republican party.

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Response to randome (Reply #47)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:58 AM

58. It isn't. That's the problem.

 

it should be, because that's the challenge of the day.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:38 AM

51. Less caffeine.... NT

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:53 AM

56. When she first came on the national scene I liked her. She likes TV cameras, but

 

her voting record is pretty conservative. When I found out she supported the War on Drugs, I really was turned off!

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Response to B Calm (Reply #56)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:22 AM

75. She can't stop about gun bans, either. In Florida.

 

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Response to B Calm (Reply #56)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:12 PM

119. I also liked D W-S when she first started. She was a new face, articulate and active. I didn't

realize she was brought in and Dean was kicked out. I met him at a small event 2007, smart and pleasant. In a few years I noticed she wasn't around as much, but recently she's back. I dislike what I'm reading here, her views on drugs, closeness to Repugs, but take your word for it. It reflects poorly on the Dem. Party, another bummer. She had 7 surgeries in the last few years, for BC and preventative ovarian removal; I thought that's why we didn't see her for a while.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:53 AM

57. I got that pos too.

I now I have to delete more than ~50 similar ones a day. But you're right, this one was a doozie.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:26 AM

60. Yeah, there is nothing more terrible than Democrats raising money, right?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #60)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:41 AM

79. No, Dems raising money is great.

 

Which is why they should not do it in such a shitty, tone deaf manner and need to get someone better in charge of the main arm of the party to do so, preferably someone who spends less time inside the beltway.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #79)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:43 AM

81. and yet they are raising more than the GOP this cycle using those "shitty, tone deaf" ads.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #81)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:22 PM

89. We'll see what good it does them.

 

At least without as strong a GOTV apparatus as they had during the Dean years.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #89)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:33 PM

91. LOL, now who is being defeatist? GOTV, DU.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #91)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:06 PM

106. And it would help

 

to have the DNC working on that as well and putting all that money they are collecting into that effort, as they did when Dr. Dean was in charge.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #106)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:09 PM

107. They do. I like Dean and his ideas as much as anyone, but his fundraising levels are

being surpassed. Democratic registrations are up everywhere and I think a lot of Republicans are going to be in for an Eric Cantor-esque surprise come election day evening.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #107)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:26 AM

122. I'll put a pin in this one

 

We'll see.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #122)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:53 AM

123. Better yet, GOTV.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:31 AM

62. The extensional crises that often result from opening an email are a serious problem in this country

 

The dramatic and extensional crises that often result from opening an email are a serious problem in this country. I have a difficult time imagining how you are able to maintain your emotional balance in regards to this seemingly overwhelming problem.

Your well-deserved concern is most certainly not merely petulant whining about something ineffective and benign. No... this blight, this scourge, this intemperate assault against our sensibilities must be stopped in its track. Indeed, a canker on our nation.

I hope your solutions are as magnanimous, as well thought-out, and as efficient as is your well-placed occupation with the travails we must endure in Opening An E-Mail.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:31 AM

63. No Peace, No Justice! Free Demmy!

Hard to imagine MLK getting behind this one.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:44 AM

67. Dogs appeal to most of us. I think her doggie has convinced me to donate to Bernie Sanders

But I have never in my life heard of an extended Halloween celebration this year. She get's kudos for that made up extended holiday, no donation but kudos.


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:03 AM

69. This is good, we get to send our money to those who have a message, and trash those who don’t.

The Elizabeth Warren fundraising e-mail I get is usually something along the lines of “I need help in the senate to strengthen Social Security. Here’s a great progressive we should be supporting!” Likewise, the ones I get from the DFA are along the lines of “Support this candidate who is proudly liberal” or “let’s rebuild the 50 state strategy – support these progressives!”.

This is self-sorting behavior, so I see it as a good thing in general .

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:54 AM

71. I take it that you didn't donate.

Maybe some people did donate, though. That would be a good thing. You can ignore these fundraising emails, or send them to your spam folder, Manny. This one didn't get a donation from you. Have any? Not every fundraising email gets money from everyone, but they all get money from someone.

Maybe you'll get one you think is good someday and you'll donate. Who can say?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #71)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:49 AM

83. ...but they all get money from someone.

Well said MMan. Not every democrat passes the political purity test required by some members of DU, but their vote is just as important as those of our intelligentsia.

Different messages touch different donors. Who'd a thought it?

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Response to cadaverdog (Reply #83)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:42 PM

99. "Political purity test" is disingenuous.

 

I would suggest that serious posters discontinue using it as a counter to posters who want Democrats to support traditional Democratic values.

Withholding support from Democrats who support Republican-style policies is not an issue of "purity," it's basic political ideological integrity.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #71)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:12 PM

85. I'm not Manny, but I never do.

Nobody who sends me a letter, whether by email or snail mail, ever gets a donation in return.

I choose my donations and the timing thereof based on my own choices, not because somebody tried to guilt me into them. Although I have occasionally donated after reading a detailed and informative blog posting about a candidate or organiation that also included a link to their ActBlue account or whatever.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #85)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:15 PM

87. I donate the same way you do.

I don't have a lot of money to donate, so I try very hard to make sure it goes to a deserving recipient. I mark all donation requests as spam. Over time my spam filter stops showing them to me in my inbox.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:17 AM

72. Manny, its not whining if: its at lower volume, frequency than the offender uses. You're safe.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:19 AM

73. Cheer up. Coulda been about cats. Much worse.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:21 AM

74. Debbie W-S LOL n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:28 AM

76. Better than saying, "We're the cute corporate tools; send money." Maybe.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:41 AM

80. Fuck, Manny, you couldn't have made up that one yourself!

In your most inspired dreams. The Onion needs to hire whoever wrote that one, fast!

-- Mal

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:56 AM

84. K&R.

I wish Howard Dean were the head of the Democratic Party. He knew how to organize.

Obama rode in on Howard Dean's horse. Why he fired Howard Dean I will never understand.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #84)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:02 PM

94. When Obama won, he and his team jumped right. They didn't dally, they leaped.

 

They couldn't wait to jettison Dean for the more conservative Debbie W-S. Losing the support of the Left wasn't as important as gaining the support of the Right. As we've since learned, Obama's appeal to the Left was bait and switch.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:24 PM

90. Is this like her Nixon moment?

A Checkers speech? Sheesh!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:05 PM

92. Given the primary purpose of the both national conventions every four years is to wear funny hats...

 


I would say this is pretty much par for professional politics.


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:18 PM

97. The mailing points out the critical difference in party policy regarding doggie costumes.

Republicans want to destroy Obamacare, cut taxes for the rich, refuse to raise the minimum wage (or eliminate it if possible), cut regulations that put an unfair burden on businesses (like not poisoning the air, water, and land; not crashing the economy with buccaneer financial behavior; and providing workers and customers with working conditions and products that won't kill them), HOWEVER, Democrats are FOR doggie costumes.

Sheesh, Manny, get your priorities straight.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:52 PM

100. Maybe someone ate their Medicinal Candy and thought it was Halloween Candy?

It could happen, ya know.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:14 PM

101. I thought the email was kind of funny ...

 

But just out of curiosity, what kind of email WOULD get you to donate?

And has it occurred to you that the exact message that got you to donate, might just completely turn off a different donor?

The doggy email would probably appeal to the same kind of person that gives a buck to the guy on the corner holding up the sign reading, "Why lie? I just want a beer."

Different strokes for different folks ... that's probably why we see 10 different ads for the same product.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:20 PM

102. I'm going to be honest here - I don't trust her or like her at all.

 

When she failed to support Democratic candidates, that sealed it for me, I think.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:05 PM

105. It's like someone copied a conversation from one message and paste into a conversation...

from another message. Even while completely blitzed I would never write such incoherent bullshit. In fact, alcohol enables some really philosophical thoughts and I have had many fascinating conversations with friends aided by a glass (or more) of whiskey. This woman is not someone I would ever want to drink with.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:31 PM

108. Not only did you read the email, you just posted it to a public forum. They did their job well.

They do focus group the hell out of these things, you know...

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Response to Recursion (Reply #108)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:37 PM

109. This focus group was probably early Tuesday morning after Memorial Day weekend

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:35 PM

110. I'm getting 43 emails a day from all concerned ;

 

And I too have realized the worst is about to occur.

If the outcome of the election hinged upon me replying and/or sending money then the worst WILL happen; to the detriment of my dreams for they will become nightmares.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:21 PM

112. I got that email

I was tempted to send her dog a costume. I figured I'd tell her I had to make a Target run anyway so, seeing as I'm apparently the only Democrat still selfish enough to run personal errands, I thought the least I could do was get her poor dog something to wear on Halloween.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:26 PM

115. ALL HOPE IS LOST

BUT DONATE $3 AND YOU CAN RESTORE IT!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:41 PM

117. PLEASE CEASE WITH THE STONER REFERENCES

 

All the Folks I know who Smoke or eat MJ are intelligent, thoughtful sick to death of this kind of B.S. As a matter of Honor they would be insulting the shit out of YOU right now. I'm prevented in doing so as of this time as I'm in trouble enough here. This is no less a Half baked (no pun intended, but chuckled at any way.) callous attempt at humor that deserves to be ridiculed. Yes the campaign Letter is indescribably Laughable but, to drag The Stoned in on this stupidity is IL-advised. Pick on the Drunk instead they are the ones to Idiotic enough continue to drink till they spend the evening laughing at every stupid joke,then eventually (If they are lucky enough to not be in a car wrapped around a tree.) spend the remainder of the party kneeling before the Great porcelain god screaming out it's name RALLLLLLPH!

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Response to imthevicar (Reply #117)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:14 PM

120. Alcohol is in there, I saw it once maybe twice in all these posts on one pretty minor topic.

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Response to imthevicar (Reply #117)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 08:14 AM

125. That was actually a not so subtle dig at Debbie W-S who is a major supporter of the drug war

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