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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:59 PM Oct 2014

I hope to God that someone was really, really stoned.

Or was hired as part of a support program to get jobs for idiots. Any alternative explanation is too awful to consider.

An email today from Rep. Wasserman Schultz, titled One really super dog:

Manny --

Lately my kids have been asking if they can dress our dogs up for Halloween. I can't blame them, either. I mean, wouldn't Demmy look good as a superhero?

Unfortunately, (or fortunately for Demmy, who doesn't want to wear a costume) Democrats don't have much time for an extended Halloween celebration this year. This election is going to be a close one until the very last second. We're neck-and-neck in important races in states like Wisconsin and Georgia, and we need to make sure we finish strong.

So Manny, will you chip in $3 or more right now?

If you donate $200 today, you'll be on the list of our best supporters we send to the FEC. If you've saved your payment information, your donation will go through immediately.

...


Thanks, Manny -- from Demmy and me both!

Debbie

Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Chair
Democratic National Committee


I'm trying hard to reduce my whining in the weeks before this upcoming election... but holy @#$%...

THIS SHOULD BE ABOUT ASPIRING TO GREAT THINGS. NOT NON SEQUITURS ABOUT DOGGIE COSTUMES.

IT'S ABOUT GOVERNING. GOVERNING. HELPING PEOPLE. STOPPING EVIL.

I CANNOT FUCKING STAND THIS INSANE @#$% ANYMORE.
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I hope to God that someone was really, really stoned. (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 OP
Warren has said multiple times she is not going to run PAProgressive28 Oct 2014 #1
It's not the same without the personal attacks attached. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #2
Warren isn't running snooper2 Oct 2014 #66
This post seems very rude to a long time member of our community who has earned a bit of respect Exultant Democracy Oct 2014 #33
Unsubscribe is your friend. Brigid Oct 2014 #3
That would be like missing the demolition derby at the local fair. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #4
Unsubscribe and mark as spam worked for me - I do gotv foot work through dem county group lunasun Oct 2014 #9
If I could figure out how to do it, Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #11
It took awhile but it has been well over a year since I have recvd any and no phone calls either but as i lunasun Oct 2014 #16
Do you have any secrets about getting off the AARP list? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #36
Tell them you are 20. n/t FSogol Oct 2014 #61
My gingers get tired too. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #68
I have cloven gingers, myself. malthaussen Oct 2014 #82
You and Jamastiene hare hereby awarded Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #93
w00t! Jamastiene Oct 2014 #96
That's the way to do it. MADem Oct 2014 #41
Didn't work for me, lol, I have "unsubscribed" unsuccessfully-- She still keeps emailing. n/t whathehell Oct 2014 #52
Depends on whether your goal is a cleaner inbox or knowing what is going on, even if merrily Oct 2014 #54
Stoned? ...Debbie W-S never met a pot smoking cancer granny she didnt want arrested. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #5
Since Howard Dean was unceremoniously fadedrose Oct 2014 #6
Dean did a bang-up job as head of the DNC, I agree. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #32
Haven't donated to DNC since Dean left eridani Oct 2014 #37
I haven't either. I donate directly or via Progressive Democratic Organizations outside rhett o rick Oct 2014 #95
I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of him in the next year or two. MADem Oct 2014 #42
Well there's no law that says she couldn't stick him on the ticket, is there. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #44
He wanted Health and Human Services. MADem Oct 2014 #46
I really dislike what they did to Dean also packman Oct 2014 #88
Well, if we keep the WH in 2016, he could enjoy an important second chapter. MADem Oct 2014 #121
Cute e-mail. nt Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #7
There doesn't seem to be anything in the e-mail telling us what to expect in ireturn for our support Doctor_J Oct 2014 #8
You're too fucking cynical. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #10
Or some new boxing gloves for hippie punching n/t BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #14
+1 lunasun Oct 2014 #17
No shit. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #18
"the party's grand display of mediocrity" FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #103
That would be an improvement! hootinholler Oct 2014 #64
that's fine as long as I get my embossed invitation. Doctor_J Oct 2014 #21
Here is what the election is all about. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #38
LOL. That's about it. nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #53
You have captured our party's inspirational message Doctor_J Oct 2014 #86
That's the best says-it-all one liner I've read in a long time.. 2banon Oct 2014 #98
Yes, I believe you've gotten it right…. MrMickeysMom Oct 2014 #111
You get on the list of bestest donators! BobbyBoring Oct 2014 #65
"Bestest Donators." Hey! This isn't a porno site. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #77
It's come to this... whereisjustice Oct 2014 #12
IS there a way to just go ahead and send the Party a vial of my own blood? Volaris Oct 2014 #26
whereisj Docross Oct 2014 #118
"Demmy" shows the utter contempt by these so-called "leaders," for what Democrats stand for. Money blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #13
Manny, are you suggesting our "friends across the aisle" are evil? BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #15
Yep I get them too zeemike Oct 2014 #19
sounds like a good marketing plan to me jeepers Oct 2014 #20
No, no, not a superhero! DeSwiss Oct 2014 #22
"Hired as part of an affirmative liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #23
Yeah, that could be misunderstood MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #25
Not misunderstood, not surprising either. bettyellen Oct 2014 #113
I'm a menace to society. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #114
well equating idiots with those who benefit from affirmative actions was an interesting leap you bettyellen Oct 2014 #116
You got one thing absolutely right. Jeff Rosenzweig Oct 2014 #24
Can you write a letter to Karl Rove MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #28
Why is it you never see fit to respond Jeff Rosenzweig Oct 2014 #30
You have 43 posts - what is your context for 'never' ?? n/t DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #31
Check the poster's sig line--he has more than 43 posts at DU. MADem Oct 2014 #39
WE NEED THE DUZYS BACK, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #40
Ah, sorry -- have sig lines turned off! DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #48
Lots of people did the retread thing when the admins offered that amnesty on DU2 MADem Oct 2014 #70
Apologies DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #49
I'll invoke Hanlon's razor MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #104
+1 n/t JTFrog Oct 2014 #78
you still read those emails begging for money Heather MC Oct 2014 #27
What do you expect? MontyPow Oct 2014 #29
She's got her finger on the pulse of the voters! Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #43
Is the FEC some kind of hall of fame for political donors or would they send your name there out... JVS Oct 2014 #34
Save it for when Hillary runs.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #35
Any response just encourages them. bemildred Oct 2014 #45
'Stopping evil?' Democrats are super-heroes now? randome Oct 2014 #47
Are Republican policies not evil? MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #50
You've fallen for the fallacy that we MUST have opposition parties. randome Oct 2014 #55
We are here, and it is now. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #59
It isn't. That's the problem. demwing Oct 2014 #58
Less caffeine.... NT Adrahil Oct 2014 #51
When she first came on the national scene I liked her. She likes TV cameras, but B Calm Oct 2014 #56
She can't stop about gun bans, either. In Florida. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #75
I also liked D W-S when she first started. She was a new face, articulate and active. I didn't appalachiablue Oct 2014 #119
I got that pos too. Duppers Oct 2014 #57
Yeah, there is nothing more terrible than Democrats raising money, right? FSogol Oct 2014 #60
No, Dems raising money is great. vi5 Oct 2014 #79
and yet they are raising more than the GOP this cycle using those "shitty, tone deaf" ads. FSogol Oct 2014 #81
We'll see what good it does them. vi5 Oct 2014 #89
LOL, now who is being defeatist? GOTV, DU. FSogol Oct 2014 #91
And it would help vi5 Oct 2014 #106
They do. I like Dean and his ideas as much as anyone, but his fundraising levels are FSogol Oct 2014 #107
I'll put a pin in this one vi5 Oct 2014 #122
Better yet, GOTV. FSogol Oct 2014 #123
The extensional crises that often result from opening an email are a serious problem in this country LanternWaste Oct 2014 #62
No Peace, No Justice! Free Demmy! whereisjustice Oct 2014 #63
Dogs appeal to most of us. I think her doggie has convinced me to donate to Bernie Sanders Autumn Oct 2014 #67
This is good, we get to send our money to those who have a message, and trash those who don’t. Chathamization Oct 2014 #69
I take it that you didn't donate. MineralMan Oct 2014 #71
...but they all get money from someone. cadaverdog Oct 2014 #83
"Political purity test" is disingenuous. Maedhros Oct 2014 #99
I'm not Manny, but I never do. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #85
I donate the same way you do. MineralMan Oct 2014 #87
Manny, its not whining if: its at lower volume, frequency than the offender uses. You're safe. marble falls Oct 2014 #72
Cheer up. Coulda been about cats. Much worse. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #73
Debbie W-S LOL n/t KG Oct 2014 #74
Better than saying, "We're the cute corporate tools; send money." Maybe. polichick Oct 2014 #76
Fuck, Manny, you couldn't have made up that one yourself! malthaussen Oct 2014 #80
K&R. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #84
When Obama won, he and his team jumped right. They didn't dally, they leaped. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #94
Is this like her Nixon moment? Generic Other Oct 2014 #90
Given the primary purpose of the both national conventions every four years is to wear funny hats... ieoeja Oct 2014 #92
The mailing points out the critical difference in party policy regarding doggie costumes. tclambert Oct 2014 #97
Maybe someone ate their Medicinal Candy and thought it was Halloween Candy? Zorra Oct 2014 #100
I thought the email was kind of funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #101
I'm going to be honest here - I don't trust her or like her at all. closeupready Oct 2014 #102
It's like someone copied a conversation from one message and paste into a conversation... EEO Oct 2014 #105
Not only did you read the email, you just posted it to a public forum. They did their job well. Recursion Oct 2014 #108
This focus group was probably early Tuesday morning after Memorial Day weekend Fumesucker Oct 2014 #109
I'm getting 43 emails a day from all concerned ; greiner3 Oct 2014 #110
I got that email dflprincess Oct 2014 #112
ALL HOPE IS LOST Hippo_Tron Oct 2014 #115
PLEASE CEASE WITH THE STONER REFERENCES imthevicar Oct 2014 #117
Alcohol is in there, I saw it once maybe twice in all these posts on one pretty minor topic. appalachiablue Oct 2014 #120
That was actually a not so subtle dig at Debbie W-S who is a major supporter of the drug war Fumesucker Oct 2014 #125
K&R woo me with science Oct 2014 #124

PAProgressive28

(270 posts)
1. Warren has said multiple times she is not going to run
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:02 PM
Oct 2014

*Before someone else gives the standard response to Manny*

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
33. This post seems very rude to a long time member of our community who has earned a bit of respect
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:56 AM
Oct 2014

for their contribution over the years.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
4. That would be like missing the demolition derby at the local fair.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:15 PM
Oct 2014

I'm still a little puzzled. A friend of mine ran a hearse in a demolition derby, it didn't do particularly well. I'd have thought that it would do better.

In any case, I have unsubscribed, but I guess not often enough.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
9. Unsubscribe and mark as spam worked for me - I do gotv foot work through dem county group
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:52 PM
Oct 2014

But those solicitations had to go and are still gone
Don't miss em esp in an election yr
No one calls me either since I voiced my opinion on many calls
Guess I went to their loser bin which is a win for me

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. If I could figure out how to do it,
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:57 PM
Oct 2014

I'd write a little Applescript auto-unsubscribe function.

As it is, my gingers get tired from al my work getting me off these %%$#@ lists.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
16. It took awhile but it has been well over a year since I have recvd any and no phone calls either but as i
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:04 AM
Oct 2014

added above in an edit, I always voiced why on the calls and if they asked for feedback on any unsubs

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. Do you have any secrets about getting off the AARP list?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:04 AM
Oct 2014

They have been sending me junk mail for the past 14 years, like clockwork.
With my name on it.
At 3 different addresses in 2 states.

Gotta admire their perseverance.

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
82. I have cloven gingers, myself.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:44 PM
Oct 2014

Sometimes, I get visions where a bearded hippie tells me to "cinammon no more."

-- Mal

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. That's the way to do it.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:09 AM
Oct 2014

I've done the same thing--I donate where/when I can, I don't do email solicitations, and I am a real fan of GOTV.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
54. Depends on whether your goal is a cleaner inbox or knowing what is going on, even if
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:47 AM
Oct 2014

it makes you grit your teeth.

Much like "ignore" on a message board.



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. Stoned? ...Debbie W-S never met a pot smoking cancer granny she didnt want arrested.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:16 PM
Oct 2014

It's one of the big reasons i cant take her seriously anymore.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
6. Since Howard Dean was unceremoniously
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:33 PM
Oct 2014

not even invited to the ceremony when his successor took his position as Chair of the DNC, I don't pay much attention to her either.

What they did to him was rude. I can't remember all the details, but it went down with a bad taste in my mouth...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
32. Dean did a bang-up job as head of the DNC, I agree.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:51 AM
Oct 2014

He built up a ton of political capital that lesser leaders have frittered away.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
37. Haven't donated to DNC since Dean left
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:22 AM
Oct 2014

There are still a lot of FDR Dems out there to support with my now limited funds.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
95. I haven't either. I donate directly or via Progressive Democratic Organizations outside
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:13 PM
Oct 2014

the Democratic Party.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
44. Well there's no law that says she couldn't stick him on the ticket, is there.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:17 AM
Oct 2014

That'd probably go a bit of a way towards fence-mending with the folks who haven't forgotten her IWR vote.

She may well be the Nominee, and if so she will be, I suspect, a formidable candidate. I'd like to hear some concrete policy statements- I mean, beyond which Bible verses are her favorite- before I make any sort of decisions about who to support in the Primaries.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
46. He wanted Health and Human Services.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:33 AM
Oct 2014

That's probably his desired bailiwick.

He doesn't work on the ticket, demographically. Two northeastern candidates from a blue region? That's like preaching to the choir. The only reason that Clinton-Gore worked all those years ago was because they were two blue candidates from a red region.

I think Clinton's Number Two will be younger (as in middle aged), male, Hispanic, possibly. But who knows? She might just say screw the paradigms and do something completely different.

I wouldn't object to that pairing--I don't think most people would.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
88. I really dislike what they did to Dean also
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:17 PM
Oct 2014

seems like they not only threw him under the bus, but backed it up and ran over him again. The guy masterminded, IMHO, with his 50 state strategy and saved the Democratic party and propelled Obama into the White House.

According to Wikipedia:

"Since retiring from the DNC chairman position, Dean has held neither elected office nor an official position in the Democratic Party "

Which is a fucking shame.

His treatment reminded me of a party purging reminiscent of one party overthrowing another then getting rid of the people who steered and led that revolution.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Dean

MADem

(135,425 posts)
121. Well, if we keep the WH in 2016, he could enjoy an important second chapter.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:01 AM
Oct 2014

It would be interesting having someone with a medical background AND a shitload of charisma directing the trajectory of medical care into the 21st Century. Who knows, maybe he could be the point man for Single Payer?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. There doesn't seem to be anything in the e-mail telling us what to expect in ireturn for our support
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:39 PM
Oct 2014

either. I'm guessing TPP, XL, more fracking, and a ramping up of Arne Duncan's quest to do away with public schools. Maybe if we all send $3 we can send more troops to the ME.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
10. You're too fucking cynical.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:54 PM
Oct 2014

As a matter of fact, they're planning to use the money on a consolation party celebrating their own ineptitude when they get their asses handed to them in two weeks.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
18. No shit.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:06 AM
Oct 2014

That's gonna be the main event at the party. Gotta pound the crap out of them there hippie progressives that cost them the election by not getting all fired up at the party's grand display of mediocrity.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
103. "the party's grand display of mediocrity"
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 04:57 PM
Oct 2014

It's worse than just mediocrity. Many of the Dems have a not-so-secret love affair with the GOP's policies (and benefactors).

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
64. That would be an improvement!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:07 AM
Oct 2014

Getting punched with padded gloves sure is better than the lead shot filled ones they wear now.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
21. that's fine as long as I get my embossed invitation.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:20 AM
Oct 2014

The local goodwill store has tuxedos for $15 and I have friends in the dc area I can stay with. I'm there!

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
38. Here is what the election is all about.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:25 AM
Oct 2014

The really big issue if you will. We are in favor of winning. We are opposed to losing. We promise two more years of gridlock if we hold the Senate. We are furious that the Republicans might win, we are hopeful that they lose.

Our national campaign strategy was complicated. We hoped the republicans would lose for us.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
86. You have captured our party's inspirational message
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:13 PM
Oct 2014

"vote Dem, because if you don't, the Republicans will win, and they're even worse"

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
12. It's come to this...
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:58 PM
Oct 2014

"My kids have been bugging me about food and medicine. Who can blame them? I'd love to see my kids off to school in a fresh set of clothes. Unfortunately, Democrats don't have time for family this year. The election is going to be a close one. So I've decided to sell my kids at auction. With the proceeds, I can help our side win.

No children? No worries. Organ donation is a great way to give. You can help win our neck and neck races by donating your own flesh and blood.

Can we count on your help today? For each boy child or kidney, we'll show our appreciation by sending you our bumper sticker with the stunning corporate friendly (D) logo.

Thanks,

Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Chair
Democratic National Committee

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
26. IS there a way to just go ahead and send the Party a vial of my own blood?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:42 AM
Oct 2014

Because Wall Street damn sure wants it, and if there just HAS to be a middle-man in the "I-get-to-get-fucked-either-way" transaction, I suppose I want it to go to the people who will at least whisper sweet nothings in my ear while the deed is done...



 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
13. "Demmy" shows the utter contempt by these so-called "leaders," for what Democrats stand for. Money
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:59 PM
Oct 2014

whores for the 1%, each and every one of 'em.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
15. Manny, are you suggesting our "friends across the aisle" are evil?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:03 AM
Oct 2014

DWS lurrrrrves her some Republicans! Just ask the Florida Democrats!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
19. Yep I get them too
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:12 AM
Oct 2014

And they use every well known name to see if they can squeeze a few more dollars out of us.
But I un subscribed to the DNC a while back and now I get even more of them...so I assume they just sell your email to others to use.
Fuck this shit...we have to get money out of politics...not feed it with more.

jeepers

(314 posts)
20. sounds like a good marketing plan to me
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:15 AM
Oct 2014

Fox sells the fear of losing to the rabidly insane and fundraisers rake in the contributions which are then spent on Fox to convince voters that we aren't losing all that badly. Send more money. What's three bucks?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
22. No, no, not a superhero!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:34 AM
Oct 2014

Demi should be costumed as usual, a priest who gets sloshed occasionally and neglects his mother:



- I'm assuming that ''Demmy'' is the secret nickname for ''sooner crossbreeds'' that are sired from the more formal breeds of political lapdog Democrats.


We know who the mother is in this email. So who tha' daddy!?!?!

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
23. "Hired as part of an affirmative
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:37 AM
Oct 2014

action program to get jobs for idiots?" Really? Seriously? You actually not only typed that but posted it? WOW.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
116. well equating idiots with those who benefit from affirmative actions was an interesting leap you
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:32 PM
Oct 2014

took there Manny. That's pretty harsh, dontcha think?


Inevitable jury- pls look back where Manny admits he actually originally wrote "affirmative action" to explain idiot w/ jobs in the OP and then changed it, thanks!

Jeff Rosenzweig

(121 posts)
30. Why is it you never see fit to respond
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:20 AM
Oct 2014

when I actually agree with you on something, and even compliment you on it? If I didn't know better, I'd say you're trying to hurt my feelings.

And of course I don't know Karl Rove any more than you do, so I can't see him giving a damn what I might say. I also don't subscribe to the fashionable (and patently lazy, scurrilous and cheap) theory that people I disagree with are paid to post here.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
39. Check the poster's sig line--he has more than 43 posts at DU.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:04 AM
Oct 2014

See the "Me in happier times" link? He was "JeffR" on the old DU. He has more posts than YOU do--unless you are a retread/name change as well.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
48. Ah, sorry -- have sig lines turned off!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:56 AM
Oct 2014

Was just going by his current post count and couldn't figure out how 'never' and '43' went together.

My bad.

(And no, I'm not a retread, I've only been around a little over a year)

Peace,
DLO

MADem

(135,425 posts)
70. Lots of people did the retread thing when the admins offered that amnesty on DU2
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:44 AM
Oct 2014

So people could get rid of their dated names like GoreLieberman4Evah or what have you! I wasn't suggesting any sockery or anything on those lines~!

Anyway, that guy has 17K + posts on Old DU...

Peace backatcha!

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
49. Apologies
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:57 AM
Oct 2014

I don't see sig lines, so I missed that you're a returning person from olden days. My bad. Carry on.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
104. I'll invoke Hanlon's razor
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:39 PM
Oct 2014

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

It's not particularly my nature to acknowledge compliments, perhaps because they leave me so astonished, but I'll try to do better in the future.

As to Mr. Rove... as you write, it has become fashionable to accuse people of being paid shills for Rove, Rand Paul, or whoever. I assumed that your observation that I'm trying was a sarcastic way of accusing me of that. I apologize if I was wrong, and appreciate that you can understand that people can disagree without cash motivations.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
43. She's got her finger on the pulse of the voters!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:13 AM
Oct 2014

For instance, the voters are apparently extremely concerned about a lack of arrests of medical marijuana patients.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
34. Is the FEC some kind of hall of fame for political donors or would they send your name there out...
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:57 AM
Oct 2014

of some kind of legal obligation to report the money they received?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
47. 'Stopping evil?' Democrats are super-heroes now?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:46 AM
Oct 2014

Sure, it's a lame email. And yeah, some coordinated messaging would be very welcome. But 'stopping evil'? When did that become part of the conversation?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
50. Are Republican policies not evil?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:35 AM
Oct 2014

Or should Democrats not be responsible for stopping (and even reversing) them?

Or both?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
55. You've fallen for the fallacy that we MUST have opposition parties.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:52 AM
Oct 2014

Last edited Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Local politicians run on local issues. I'd rather hear less about what the 'other guy' is doing and more about what 'our guy' will do. And that doesn't happen nearly enough these days. But absent compelling evidence to the contrary, it's always safest to vote Democratic.

There's a positive message for you. Well, okay, it's not all that positive but it's not negative, either!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
59. We are here, and it is now.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:21 AM
Oct 2014

Perhaps you can rattle off a few non-evil policies pushed by today's Republican party.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
56. When she first came on the national scene I liked her. She likes TV cameras, but
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:53 AM
Oct 2014

her voting record is pretty conservative. When I found out she supported the War on Drugs, I really was turned off!

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
119. I also liked D W-S when she first started. She was a new face, articulate and active. I didn't
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:12 PM
Oct 2014

realize she was brought in and Dean was kicked out. I met him at a small event 2007, smart and pleasant. In a few years I noticed she wasn't around as much, but recently she's back. I dislike what I'm reading here, her views on drugs, closeness to Repugs, but take your word for it. It reflects poorly on the Dem. Party, another bummer. She had 7 surgeries in the last few years, for BC and preventative ovarian removal; I thought that's why we didn't see her for a while.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
57. I got that pos too.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:53 AM
Oct 2014

I now I have to delete more than ~50 similar ones a day. But you're right, this one was a doozie.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
79. No, Dems raising money is great.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:41 PM
Oct 2014

Which is why they should not do it in such a shitty, tone deaf manner and need to get someone better in charge of the main arm of the party to do so, preferably someone who spends less time inside the beltway.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
89. We'll see what good it does them.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:22 PM
Oct 2014

At least without as strong a GOTV apparatus as they had during the Dean years.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
106. And it would help
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:06 PM
Oct 2014

to have the DNC working on that as well and putting all that money they are collecting into that effort, as they did when Dr. Dean was in charge.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
107. They do. I like Dean and his ideas as much as anyone, but his fundraising levels are
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:09 PM
Oct 2014

being surpassed. Democratic registrations are up everywhere and I think a lot of Republicans are going to be in for an Eric Cantor-esque surprise come election day evening.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
62. The extensional crises that often result from opening an email are a serious problem in this country
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:31 AM
Oct 2014

The dramatic and extensional crises that often result from opening an email are a serious problem in this country. I have a difficult time imagining how you are able to maintain your emotional balance in regards to this seemingly overwhelming problem.

Your well-deserved concern is most certainly not merely petulant whining about something ineffective and benign. No... this blight, this scourge, this intemperate assault against our sensibilities must be stopped in its track. Indeed, a canker on our nation.

I hope your solutions are as magnanimous, as well thought-out, and as efficient as is your well-placed occupation with the travails we must endure in Opening An E-Mail.

Autumn

(45,082 posts)
67. Dogs appeal to most of us. I think her doggie has convinced me to donate to Bernie Sanders
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:44 AM
Oct 2014
But I have never in my life heard of an extended Halloween celebration this year. She get's kudos for that made up extended holiday, no donation but kudos.


Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
69. This is good, we get to send our money to those who have a message, and trash those who don’t.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:03 AM
Oct 2014

The Elizabeth Warren fundraising e-mail I get is usually something along the lines of “I need help in the senate to strengthen Social Security. Here’s a great progressive we should be supporting!” Likewise, the ones I get from the DFA are along the lines of “Support this candidate who is proudly liberal” or “let’s rebuild the 50 state strategy – support these progressives!”.

This is self-sorting behavior, so I see it as a good thing in general .

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
71. I take it that you didn't donate.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 11:54 AM
Oct 2014

Maybe some people did donate, though. That would be a good thing. You can ignore these fundraising emails, or send them to your spam folder, Manny. This one didn't get a donation from you. Have any? Not every fundraising email gets money from everyone, but they all get money from someone.

Maybe you'll get one you think is good someday and you'll donate. Who can say?

cadaverdog

(228 posts)
83. ...but they all get money from someone.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:49 PM
Oct 2014

Well said MMan. Not every democrat passes the political purity test required by some members of DU, but their vote is just as important as those of our intelligentsia.

Different messages touch different donors. Who'd a thought it?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
99. "Political purity test" is disingenuous.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:42 PM
Oct 2014

I would suggest that serious posters discontinue using it as a counter to posters who want Democrats to support traditional Democratic values.

Withholding support from Democrats who support Republican-style policies is not an issue of "purity," it's basic political ideological integrity.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
85. I'm not Manny, but I never do.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:12 PM
Oct 2014

Nobody who sends me a letter, whether by email or snail mail, ever gets a donation in return.

I choose my donations and the timing thereof based on my own choices, not because somebody tried to guilt me into them. Although I have occasionally donated after reading a detailed and informative blog posting about a candidate or organiation that also included a link to their ActBlue account or whatever.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
87. I donate the same way you do.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:15 PM
Oct 2014

I don't have a lot of money to donate, so I try very hard to make sure it goes to a deserving recipient. I mark all donation requests as spam. Over time my spam filter stops showing them to me in my inbox.

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
80. Fuck, Manny, you couldn't have made up that one yourself!
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:41 PM
Oct 2014

In your most inspired dreams. The Onion needs to hire whoever wrote that one, fast!

-- Mal

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
84. K&R.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:56 PM
Oct 2014

I wish Howard Dean were the head of the Democratic Party. He knew how to organize.

Obama rode in on Howard Dean's horse. Why he fired Howard Dean I will never understand.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
94. When Obama won, he and his team jumped right. They didn't dally, they leaped.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:02 PM
Oct 2014

They couldn't wait to jettison Dean for the more conservative Debbie W-S. Losing the support of the Left wasn't as important as gaining the support of the Right. As we've since learned, Obama's appeal to the Left was bait and switch.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
92. Given the primary purpose of the both national conventions every four years is to wear funny hats...
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:05 PM
Oct 2014

I would say this is pretty much par for professional politics.


tclambert

(11,085 posts)
97. The mailing points out the critical difference in party policy regarding doggie costumes.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:18 PM
Oct 2014

Republicans want to destroy Obamacare, cut taxes for the rich, refuse to raise the minimum wage (or eliminate it if possible), cut regulations that put an unfair burden on businesses (like not poisoning the air, water, and land; not crashing the economy with buccaneer financial behavior; and providing workers and customers with working conditions and products that won't kill them), HOWEVER, Democrats are FOR doggie costumes.

Sheesh, Manny, get your priorities straight.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
100. Maybe someone ate their Medicinal Candy and thought it was Halloween Candy?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:52 PM
Oct 2014

It could happen, ya know.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
101. I thought the email was kind of funny ...
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 04:14 PM
Oct 2014

But just out of curiosity, what kind of email WOULD get you to donate?

And has it occurred to you that the exact message that got you to donate, might just completely turn off a different donor?

The doggy email would probably appeal to the same kind of person that gives a buck to the guy on the corner holding up the sign reading, "Why lie? I just want a beer."

Different strokes for different folks ... that's probably why we see 10 different ads for the same product.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
102. I'm going to be honest here - I don't trust her or like her at all.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 04:20 PM
Oct 2014

When she failed to support Democratic candidates, that sealed it for me, I think.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
105. It's like someone copied a conversation from one message and paste into a conversation...
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:05 PM
Oct 2014

from another message. Even while completely blitzed I would never write such incoherent bullshit. In fact, alcohol enables some really philosophical thoughts and I have had many fascinating conversations with friends aided by a glass (or more) of whiskey. This woman is not someone I would ever want to drink with.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
108. Not only did you read the email, you just posted it to a public forum. They did their job well.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:31 PM
Oct 2014

They do focus group the hell out of these things, you know...

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
110. I'm getting 43 emails a day from all concerned ;
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:35 PM
Oct 2014

And I too have realized the worst is about to occur.

If the outcome of the election hinged upon me replying and/or sending money then the worst WILL happen; to the detriment of my dreams for they will become nightmares.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
112. I got that email
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:21 PM
Oct 2014

I was tempted to send her dog a costume. I figured I'd tell her I had to make a Target run anyway so, seeing as I'm apparently the only Democrat still selfish enough to run personal errands, I thought the least I could do was get her poor dog something to wear on Halloween.

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
117. PLEASE CEASE WITH THE STONER REFERENCES
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 10:41 PM
Oct 2014

All the Folks I know who Smoke or eat MJ are intelligent, thoughtful sick to death of this kind of B.S. As a matter of Honor they would be insulting the shit out of YOU right now. I'm prevented in doing so as of this time as I'm in trouble enough here. This is no less a Half baked (no pun intended, but chuckled at any way.) callous attempt at humor that deserves to be ridiculed. Yes the campaign Letter is indescribably Laughable but, to drag The Stoned in on this stupidity is IL-advised. Pick on the Drunk instead they are the ones to Idiotic enough continue to drink till they spend the evening laughing at every stupid joke,then eventually (If they are lucky enough to not be in a car wrapped around a tree.) spend the remainder of the party kneeling before the Great porcelain god screaming out it's name RALLLLLLPH!

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