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As it happens, the filing coincides with the theatrical release of Laura Poitras new documentary, Citizenfour. The Jewel complaint was filed in 2008, and theres a scene early in the film that shows the long road that case has taken. In footage shot in 2011, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit hears argument in Jewel, and an attorney from the Department of Justice tries to convince a skeptical court that it should simply decide not to decide the case, leaving it to the other branches of government.
But the court did not agree to step aside. EFF prevailed on the issue, and the case continued, albeit very slowly. Now, years later, Poitras film underscores just how much the conversation around mass surveillance has changed. Americans are overwhelmingly concerned with government monitoring of their communications, and we hope to (finally) have a constitutional ruling in Jewel soon. (And another in Smith v. Obama, and still another in First Unitarian Church of Los Angeles v. NSA.)
Even so, the government continues to try to avoid a decision that any of its various means of mass surveillance is unconstitutional. The current procedural context is this: in July, EFF filed a partial motion for summary judgment requesting that the court rely on uncontested evidence that the NSA taps into the Internet backbone and collects and searches ordinary Americans communication to rule that the government is violating the Fourth Amendment. The technology at issue, which the government calls upstream, is illustrated here.
Under this surveillance, the government makes a full copy of everything that travels through key Internet backbone locations, like AT&Ts peering links. The government says that it then does some rudimentary filtering and searches through the filtered copies, looking for specific selectors, like email addresses.
The government filed its opposition to our motion in September. In our reply, we note that the government is effectively trying to sidestep the Fourth Amendment for everything that travels over the Internet. We explain:
There's more here:https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/10/automated-mass-surveillance-unconstitutional-eff-explains-jewel-v-nsa
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
djean111
(14,255 posts)I think we are now thisclose to having little drones with cameras and sound-transmitting devices, flitting through our back yards. I saw one small as a hummingbird in an article last year. It could go inside buildings.
Pretty soon a closet will be the only private place we have.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)There will be fly-like drones soon, that connect to existing wireless data networks to transmit data. It's a given.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)They are complaining now about the new iphone encryption. If we keep letting them do this there will be cams in your toilet bowl.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the Constitution has been replaced with the Patriot Act. Those who argue FOR attacks on Protesters eg, are arguing FOR the Patriot Act. And it's time for the rest of us to stop trying to explain to them what this country was supposed to be about. They KNOW, and they obviously, as Bush at least was honest about, find the Constitution to be an obstacle to the goals they have or their 'idols' have.
Now it's best to just ignore them, waste no time on them at all and work with organizations like EFF and the ACLU and support Whistle Blowers regardless of the childish garbage we see posted online trying to discredit them.
But to say we are LOSING rights, is wrong, we have LOST enough of those rights now that retrieving them has become increasingly difficult, especially when we have to deal with supporters of those losses.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)WHich is why the multi-petabyte installation out west is being built. Anyone know if it's online yet?
FYI, the EFF pages are CreativeCommons copyleft thus the 4 paragraph rule is over-ridden by permission to post with attribution.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:04 AM - Edit history (1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Centera good read from a couple of years ago: http://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I can't believe they actually put that on the sign!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)they don't give a flying "F****!" Chilling....
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)and don't give a fuck.Its real.
https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)But nicely done.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)while waving the flag.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)It seems to be from a parody website.
marym625
(17,997 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Did you see the long interview with Poitras on Democracy Now last week? It was a great interview and Jeremy Scahill follows about the Blackwater Indictment and more.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)They've stuck by Jewel for years while at the same time being in bed with Google...It's a bit ambiguous...