'It was a fight over a girl': Washington school shooter targeted girl who rejected him

[Blue_Tires]

A tragic high school shooting in Washington state may have been rooted in a love triangle, students said.

The Marysville freshman who went on a gun rampage Friday targeted the cousins he considered brothers — and the girl who picked his cousin over him, victims' friends and family said.

Jaylen Fryberg barged into Marysville-Pilchuck High School's cafeteria and shot five teenagers, killing one girl and seriously wounding two female and two male students, police said. Then, he turned the gun on himself.

The two boys — 15-year-old Andrew Fryberg and 14-year-old Nate Hatch — are Jaylen's cousins, said Don Hatch, Nate's grandfather and Andrew's grand uncle.

"They're just three complete buddies, and they couldn't be closer than three brothers," he told the Today show.

The 14-year-old killed himself during the rampage.

Jaylen, a football player and the school's recently-crowned homecoming prince, was in an ongoing dispute with one of his cousins over one of the girls he shot, the victim's friend Bella Panjeli told Reuters.

"I heard he asked her out and she rebuffed him and was with his cousin," she said. "It was a fight over a girl."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wash-state-school-shooter-targeted-girl-rejected-cousins-friends-article-1.1986823

[cwydro]

1. Something very wrong in our country.

Very very wrong.

[Javaman]

17. yes, lack of coping skills.

people are too quick to anger and aren't taught how to understand sometimes life sucks.

[Bigmack]

26. Are people in countries like us...

.. in Europe, for example, somehow taught coping skills that our kids aren't being taught?

This is part of a much larger question I have... and that is:

Considering that mental illnesses are pretty much universal, considering that the press in Europe is sensationalist, considering that their kids see the same movies and play the same videogames....

Why are we so different?

We own a lot of guns, yes, but our total homicide rate is much, MUCH higher than in countries like us.

[Javaman]

30. Check the parents.

usually, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. We have two extremes in this country. "helicopter"parents and neglectful parents.

One causes the kid to be afraid of everything, the other causes the kid to have no bounds.

Yes, there are a lot of normal parents out there as well, but the rise of neglect in this nation is rising dramatically.

oh and as aside, many neglectful parents seem to worship a the gun altar.

[Bigmack]

32. You think our parents...

..are really that much different from the parents in Norway, Italy, Canada, etc?

[Johonny]

23. I believe we will learn no lesson what so ever from this event

and then get to not learn a lesson again in a few more months...

[liberal_at_heart]

2. I keep hearing that he was this happy kid who was popular, but if being rejected by a girl could

do that to him he was obviously not as happy as people would like to think he was. Just a terrible, terrible loss.

[Recursion]

3. The narcissistic injury produces unpredictable results

Combine that with a country that has way way way more handguns than is right...

[HereSince1628]

13. The armchair psychoanalysts can't help themselves

from expounding on and inflating the rationale of their long-distance diagnoses.

Should belief in one's capacity to practice analysis without even the need for a patient's presence be seen as an expression of self-grandiose view of one's psychiatric capacity?

[Recursion]

14. Could be. Could also be that I'm an adult who's read Virgil.

I leave you to decide which is which (nt)

[bettyellen]

29. no doctor is needed to come to this conclusion if you actually understand what the term means...

people who shoot those "they can't have" are basically text book narcissists. It's not a medical diagnosis- hope that helps!

[Electric Monk]

4. From instagram

reminds me of the recent Yearbook Photo threads....

[liberal_at_heart]

5. He comes from a hunting tribe, the Tulalip tribe.

There is nothing wrong with hunting for food, and it was not a hunting gun he used in the shooting. The gun he used in the shooting was a hand gun. They need to find out where that gun came from.

[nomorenomore08]

6. Hunting for food is the only way to do it IMO. Fuck killing for trophies. n/t

[Igel]

18. I've known more than one hunter with a handgun.

They'd track the deer (etc.) after wounding it, and if it wasn't dead when they found it they'd use the handgun to finish it off.

In some cases they also said safety was a concern; this was in Oregon in the '80s and there were stands of pot with armed guards protecting it. While few hunters were at risk, it's what some would call a "fat-tailed risk": running into a situation like that may be very unlikely, but if it happens it almost certainly has severe consequences.

[Kaleva]

24. In parts of Lower Michigan, one can only hunt deer with a shotgun or handgun

[Cha]

7. Why did he have a fucking gun at school? :(

[freshwest]

8. It was pre-meditated murder and he was effective in carrying it out. He had access to guns at home.

Maybe I'm missing what you're asking here? If you mean why was he allowed to have guns at school?

I doubt he was. WA has zero tolerance for violence, etc. at schools generally. I'm not sure how the local schools there interpreted things, but I doubt they agree with guns on campus. I could be wrong.

While our state gun fanatics aren't stopping their push to have things their way here, I don't think that applies to this situation. He was a hunter and liked his guns, but most would guess he only liked them as tools to go hunting.

My guess is they didn't have metal detectors to stop him bringing a gun onto the campus. He didn't use a rifle for this, he used a handgun, likely had it in his backpack.

I bet no one knew he was carrying. From another thread I read, I doubt the full story will never come out. All the friends and family of the victims and the shooter knew each other very well and they will have to live with each other for many years.

So I suspect very little will be said one way or the other, no matter how much they know. They won't want to stir up ill will that will last for years.

[Cha]

9. I said "why?" but a better question would have been.. how did he get it in the school? I guess

I was thinking all schools had metal detectors.

Thanks for your post, fresh.

[freshwest]

11. They do in our local district, but not in some rural ones in the past decade, unless that's changed.

We voted to have a nearby high school completely renovated, and they not only had metal detectors, but all the doors arre locked and students are only allowed in with supervision. So there will no guns there.

Nor will there be any chances of off campus criminal activities causing the school to be 'locked down' as has happened before if a shooting was in a neighborhood. The protocol always seemed creepy but people insisted that anyone like that not get into the school, nor that their kids would sent to walk home if there was something going on.

But we have remarkably low level of person on person crime here. It's a very diverse community, all ages, ethnicities, incomes, etc. and people get along very well. There is zero tolerance for bullying in the school of any kind and conflict resolution is taught to kids throughout their public school years.

[hack89]

12. Few schools have metal detectors

Usually the one that do are in high crime areas with gang problems.

[Recursion]

10. Maybe schools should be declared gun-free zones (nt)

[malaise]

15. Another girl died overnight

Stupid stupid stupid - what an unnecessary tragedy. Now if guns weren't so damned accessible this may not have happened.

[Orrex]

16. Back in my day, when a girl rejected you...

you wrote a shit-ton of embarrassingly awful poems, and that was the end of it.

[seabeyond]

21. this. nt

[TBF]

19. Well thank god he had access to a gun

so he could effectively (and very permanently) take out his anger on everyone around him.

[Blue_Tires]

20. more info:

http://gawker.com/school-shooter-invited-friends-to-lunch-via-text-before-1651470066

[scarystuffyo]

22. Turned the gun on himself? Did the teacher intervene and grab or push the kids gun hand ?

There was a thread where the teacher grabbed the student and tried to take the gun away

He was neck shot so it kind of makes sense

[Action_Patrol]

25. No

Sheriff said it was self inflicted. Teacher never had physical contact with him and be lured everyone at the table together via text message.

[catbyte]

27. Why did he shoot his own cousins? Tragic on every level.

[Action_Patrol]

28. Brutal

Everything that's come out said a girl picked His cousin over him. Awful.

[DreamGypsy]

31. Just two lonely kids in school, right before geometry, my friend Jimmy lost his cool...

...and he pulled gun on me.

Him and Wanda used to date
But that was over months ago.
Though she has been seen with me of late,
We're just a couple friends moving slow.

Maybe it's not so easy growing up in the world today.

Nils Lofgren, Man in the Moon -