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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:58 AM Oct 2014

'60 Minutes' Just Broke New Details On The Dallas Ebola Case. Here's What They Revealed.

60 Minutes on Sunday told the story of a hospital tackling Ebola. A story of brave nurses and determined administrators. A story of heroes, frankly.

It was the story of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas — the hospital that treated the first patient diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. A hospital that’s been widely criticized, since Texas Health nurses Nina Pham and Amber Vinson also got sick with Ebola.

You may think you know the details of what happened in Dallas. But 60 Minutes asks you to think again.

60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley sat down with four of the nurses who treated Thomas Duncan, the initial Ebola patient.

Here’s what we learned.

1. Whether intentionally or not, Duncan misled authorities about his exposure to Ebola.

When Duncan first presented to the hospital on September 25, he didn’t specify that he’d come from Liberia or even West Africa — the center of the Ebola outbreak.

Duncan only said he’d returned from “Africa,” which could’ve meant one of dozens of nations, most of them far from the Ebola outbreak. Perhaps the nurses could’ve pressed him further. But with Duncan’s symptoms not that severe yet, and with no real reason to think he had Ebola, they sent him home.

After Duncan was re-admitted to the hospital three days later, significantly sicker, the hospital suspected Ebola might be the cause. But even then, Duncan wasn’t wholly honest. He said he hadn’t been exposed to anyone who was sick from Ebola, even though later reports revealed that Duncan had bravely helped carry an Ebola-infected woman to a local hospital in Liberia.

Duncan also told a nurse that he’d buried his daughter who died in childbirth — but he said that she hadn’t died from Ebola. Duncan later denied the story to federal officials.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2014/10/26/60-minutes-just-broke-new-details-on-the-dallas-ebola-case-heres-what-they-revealed/

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'60 Minutes' Just Broke New Details On The Dallas Ebola Case. Here's What They Revealed. (Original Post) mfcorey1 Oct 2014 OP
And of course Duncan can't refute this version of the story. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #2
"Determined administrators" Fumesucker Oct 2014 #3
Version I get from someone in the corporate level of that hospital chain is hobbit709 Oct 2014 #6
Yep marions ghost Oct 2014 #16
Why would he lie about having Ebola? He had already gotten past the tblue37 Oct 2014 #4
If he was certain he had ebola I imagine he would have pressed the issue Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #10
Do you often diagnose yourself? Demit Oct 2014 #14
BS. Why would he lie? He was obviously seeking medical treatment. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #5
What about his temperature?? RockaFowler Oct 2014 #7
Fear of the law suit that's coming malaise Oct 2014 #11
Sorry, but saying "Africa" plus high temp was enough Sienna86 Oct 2014 #8
They make it sound like Turbineguy Oct 2014 #9
Remember this is the same 60 minutes that lost its Journalistic integrety in Benghazi. gordianot Oct 2014 #12
too many contradictions procon Oct 2014 #13
Sounds more like fredamae Oct 2014 #15
Would the 4 nurses have jobs if they said otherwise? Vinca Oct 2014 #17
Was the hospital asking the right questions? davidpdx Oct 2014 #18
One last time...Women in Liberia DIE from pregnancy and childbirth. Barack_America Oct 2014 #19
Duncan said "Africa", had a fever, on his first visit. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #20
I stopped believing anything from CBS in 2000. Pathwalker Oct 2014 #21
Suddenly the dead neighbor is his daughter? " Duncan later denied the story to federal officials"? uppityperson Oct 2014 #22

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tblue37

(65,340 posts)
4. Why would he lie about having Ebola? He had already gotten past the
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:26 AM
Oct 2014

screening to leave Liberia. He needed medical care, and we can assume he would have liked to survive and not to infect his loved ones with a horrific disease that as far as he knew would kill them. Lying about the possibility that he had Ebola would prevent him from getting appropriate treatment that might give him at least some chance of survival, or if not survival, then at least a somewhat less painful death. All the incentive for lying is on the hospital's side.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
10. If he was certain he had ebola I imagine he would have pressed the issue
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 07:08 AM
Oct 2014

If I had Ebola I wouldnt let them send me away with asprin and some medicine. I would fight to get admited. If they would not admit me I would drive to a second or third hospital, not wait 3 days.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
7. What about his temperature??
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:33 AM
Oct 2014

They let him go home with a spiked fever.

How about the nurse who originally said that he told her he just got back from Liberia? She supposedly didn't get that information to anyone else.

I find this whole story just horrible. How can you treat the dead with such contempt?

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
8. Sorry, but saying "Africa" plus high temp was enough
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:49 AM
Oct 2014

Parsing this version and the lack of a statement from Duncan doesn't clean up this version of the story from the hospital.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
12. Remember this is the same 60 minutes that lost its Journalistic integrety in Benghazi.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 07:12 AM
Oct 2014

Like most modern media sources they are on constant rightward spin cycle and every story they do is questionable. I for one will never take them seriously.

procon

(15,805 posts)
13. too many contradictions
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 07:55 AM
Oct 2014

First the story reports the hospital was actively educating staff to cope with Ebola patients, indicating that a knowledgeable training team was at hand. If true, then why were forced the nurses forced to troll the internet looking for the proper protocols instead of relying on their in-house training office? Too many other assumtions and inconsistencies make this storu look more like a snow job and a thinly veiled hospital whitewash.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
15. Sounds more like
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:06 AM
Oct 2014

the Hospital is Trying to Cover it's arse, to me.
Because Media has lost so much credibility and because it is so Monopolized....I don't believe it....I don't believe MSM. Period.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
18. Was the hospital asking the right questions?
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:24 AM
Oct 2014

Obviously it's going to be hard to know for sure what the answers were with Duncan being deceased. And forget releasing records because of HIPPA.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
19. One last time...Women in Liberia DIE from pregnancy and childbirth.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:31 AM
Oct 2014

Maternity care there is scarce.

There was no reason at the time for Duncan to assume she had Ebola or was even "sick".

As a physician, I would have evaluated her for eclampsia and HELLP first.

Here are the symptoms for HELLP syndrome. Compare and contrast to Ebola.

http://americanpregnancy.org/pregnancy-complications/hellp-syndrome/


TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
20. Duncan said "Africa", had a fever, on his first visit.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 10:47 AM
Oct 2014

Triage nurse didn't flag it, she just put it in the record--MISTAKE from ignorance of what was happening in the world. Doctors/other nurses didn't catch it and put it together either. Doctors appear to never consider his travel history at all, in fact. Patients are not responsible for their own diagnosis, considering that they can come in unconscious, mentally handicapped, stoned/drunk, psychotic.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
21. I stopped believing anything from CBS in 2000.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 10:52 AM
Oct 2014

They no longer have a drop of credibility - might as well be Faux.

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