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darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)A DUer has had his life devasted by gun violence, and yet, as noted already in this thread, the gunners will try to argue that guns are not a problem. Fearful people will fight to their last breath to make sure they have their deadly weapons because without them they think they will die. Yes, people are dying, but they don't give a damn.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)They are very dangerous. It is this danger that makes them useful as tools.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Many countries with strong gun control allow guns for hunting. I have read gun experts who say a shotgun is far more effective for home protection than a handgun. Guns are very dangerous; that is why they need to be heavily regulated.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)> gun experts who say a shotgun is far more effective for home protection than a handgun.
> Guns are very dangerous; that is why they need to be heavily regulated.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)uppityperson
(115,683 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)uppityperson
(115,683 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)No, so this should not be in GD and violates Skinners guidance on guns in GD. But the pro-control side does not seem to care much for rules.
uppityperson
(115,683 posts)And media/public perception to ebola continues its over reaction?
Oh.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)uppityperson
(115,683 posts)was a lot of different discussions.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)and guidance put out with the SOP.
there are two groups you can post gun related article to your hearts content. Although one side does require a safe haven and limits free speech. The RKBA group allows all viewpoints and debate is welcome there.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1262
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Poor things.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Just like to point out how one side chooses to follow the rules.
I kind of am just waiting for the penis jokes and the name calling to start. It always does.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)So sensitive. Waiting for it, huh?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)insulted most days so we are used to it.
Are you saying I have blood on my hands?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Be proud. Be very proud.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Can you please answer it?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)yes or no?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)but you still refuse to answer, and you are the one that put out there.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)I'm not obligated to answer shit. Particularly, I am under no obligation to give my opinion as to whether you are an enabler, supporter, facilitator of gun violence in the US. So take your demand for an answer and assume the absolute fucking worst. My opinion of you is likely lower.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)since in your earlier post you insinuated I had blood on my hands. I just asked you if you did indeed think I do and I had understood your post correctly. I am truly sorry to get you so worked up.
morningfog
No need for that. Those that can sleep with blood on their hands won't responde to insult.
So sensitive. Waiting for it, huh?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724398#post42
I hope you have a great day, I have had a wonderful day and the weekend is coming on fast.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)You insisted on an answer, so I gave you a sense of my impression of people who are so fucking concerned about their stupi gucking guns that they have to bemoan any discussion in GD as some kind of an acting to them. Give me a fucking break. If the issue if your gun is so fucking important to you that you post petty stupid shit on a message board and cry about it being in the wrong forum (boo hoo, oh wittle gun rightists follow the wittle rules) then yes, you have dimed yourself out as part of the problem.
Go to the gungeon and wait for someone to yank your chain there.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I try and be civil in my discussions and I think I succeed. I disagree with the pro-controller side but I do not call them names or degrade them for their views. I would hope you would show the same consideration to a firearms owner on DU.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I try and have a civil discussion and this happens some of the time. You just admitted you cannot have a discussion in a civil manor with a fellow DU member. I find that very sad. I am not surprised as I see it at times but I try not to let it get me down as I try and take the high road and not do that. I think that it is possible to have a civil discussion here and a majority of the time and with most DU members, I do have them. Just disappoints me that some can not.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I hope you have a nice night. I am going to bed and get some very restful sleep.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)If you wander into GD with your gunner rights nonsense, expect disdain.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)As far as I know, I am able to post and will do so, just saddened at how low some have go.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Now that would be low.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)and I still will be civil to you even if you disagree with me.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)If not, why not?
If so, it seems the hosts and those discussing disagree. Perhaps you don't know as much about "most DUers" as you think.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)What the hosts feel and what the general membership feels are quite different.
Hmmm. Think I alerted twice, in fact. And posted my question about the OP twice, with one inadvertent third post due to malfunction. That should settle your concerns in an abundant manner.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)So sorry. Feel free to complain again. It hide thread. Or just get over it!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)the control side refuses to answer a simple question.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)DU-approved crap talk can be spewed. Maybe the Special Dispensation is ba-a-a-ck.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I think I will just hang around here. I do not like being told to censor myself from another poster. I will not post gun related posts in GD in deference to Skinner and the SOP guidance. That does not mean I will not at times respond to posts the the control side sneaks into GD and especially when firearms owners are broad brush attacked. A lot of these posts do end up getting locked, especially when the name calling and sexual references start showing as usually happens.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)If you wanna move on & play culture war elsewhere, be my guest.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)And, I seldom vote to hide posts.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)former9thward
(32,253 posts)Makes as much sense...
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)malaise
(269,662 posts)but only up to election night
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Since it is clearly free pizza nite for GD mods, I thought I would put the song in a more realistic perspective.
cali
(114,904 posts)and no matter how many times it's posted, it's still a ridiculous comparison.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)More people have been married to Kim than have gotten ebola in the U.S.
VScott
(774 posts)cartoons or jokes/cartoons mocking gun banners?
Because we'd rather occupy our time and efforts on the legal and legislative fronts racking up one
victory after another.
So, let them have their irrelevant, hackneyed, hair on fire fun... it's all they have left.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)R.Quinn
(122 posts)a bit of a stretch.
uppityperson
(115,683 posts)This shooting hit close to home, literally. So yes, I understand the point of this OP
Beaverhausen
(24,480 posts)But we have to freak out about EBOLA!!!
uppityperson
(115,683 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,480 posts)uppityperson
(115,683 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)And if you aren't aware, retired police are allowed to carry nation wide* as long as they keep up their annual firearms qualification, which isn't very stringent. Any changes in the law, however unlikely they are to pass, probably wouldn't have prevented the tragedy that happened to H2O's family.
*Aside from the usual places as court houses, past the metal detectors in the airports and the like
uppityperson
(115,683 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:33 PM - Edit history (1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5246076
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)you call for a ban on alcohol and swimming pools. People do not need those things either.
Not going to happen
JEB
(4,748 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)VScott
(774 posts)in some states it's called a "waiting period"
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)etc.
Gunners -- if they were as responsible as they tell us -- would never sell, or even transfer a gun to a friend/relative, without a background check through an FFL, instead of accepting a fistful of cash. But, gunners aren't as "responsible" as they like us to believe.
It's easy for you and your gun buddies to use an FFL to get a background check.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Although you do bring up a good point, gunners are not as "law-abiding" as we are told.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Ignorance of the law is not a defense, although most of the gunners I've met would not have a hard time convincing the jury of their challenges.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)is all you have.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Here is a pro-gun control site bemoaning the fact that approved BCs have to be destroyed after 24 hours. They also lament the BC form doesn't record the weapon being purchased. That underscores my original point that BCs performed exclusively by FFLs will have no additional benefit.
http://smartgunlaws.org/maintaining-gun-sales-background-check-records-policy-summary/
If you had an ounce of integrity you would admit your attitude was little more than you projecting.
BKH70041
(961 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Guns are useless without a person pulling a trigger.
Viruses on the other hand is nature...And we do not control nature.