The MSM has pretty much told us the election is over and we are going to lose, but my question is if

[still_one]

that happens, what does it really mean?

Historically, doesn't the incumbent party usually do worse in midterms? Also, doesn't it depend which states are up for election? For example, if we won Kentucky, but still lost the Senate, wouldn't that have more significance since Kentucky is a red state? The fact that the election is so close, not only in Kentucky, but also in other purple and red states significant?

I suspect if we lose the midterm election, the republicans will even make more asses out of themselves in the next two years which has the potential to set us up for a tremendous victory for us in 2016 if we do things right.

Of course I hope we win, and if we do, not only would it humilitate the media's analytical skills, but provide the same advantage to us for 2016 since there is no doubt in my mind the house is going to be even more crazy

[upaloopa]

1. I hear that repubs have more Senate seats to

defend than we will in 2016. So possibly voters will wake the fuck up by then and vote them out.

[still_one]

3. I hope so. Either way, I really think it sets up some excellent opportunities for us in 2016. I

really think the republicans will go into a melt down in the next two years

[Phlem]

2. Reminds me of the Hillary clan.

If we don't vote for her we're all DOOOOOMED!

[still_one]

4. This election is not about the presidential election in my view

[Phlem]

9. I understand congress is at play.

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Unless one's been living under a rock or are comatose I'm pretty certain we all get that. I wonder what kind of people a neo-liberal would fill empty seats with?

Gil Kerlikowske the new Drug Czar? Eeesh!

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/05/obama-drug-czar-pot-marijuana-legalization-choom-gang

[NYC_SKP]

6. She is the LAST thing the party needs, especially Progressives.

A lot of my friends here love her but when it comes to defending that love over, say, Warren, it boils down to "electability" and not values. Another oft heard excuse is, we need Warren in the Senate".

Yes, but we need someone like Warren in the whitehouse even more.

A corporate globalist bank loving Democrat in office will just seal the deal that party is done, finished, worse than ever before.

Warren or Sanders, but more Warren, could change the direction of not just the party but the nation.

[Phlem]

10. Awe Skip

your part of the, what have we been labeled, the "tealeft"! You don't understand we're all DOOOOOMED, if we don't get behind Hillary!

[kentuck]

5. It would be good to see the pollsters discredited.

Just call all the races a toss-up from day one, rather than waiting one day before election? What does that really tell us?

[still_one]

7. I agree. What disturbs me is how the MSM injects itself into these polls, or worse like what chuck

todd and others from the media have done by actually injecting themselves into the campaigns

[cali]

8. it means that President Obama won't be able to get decent federal judges appointed

it means that if there's an opening on the SC, he won't be able to appoint a decent Justice. And yes, the party holding the WH traditionally does poorly in midterms, particularly in 2nd term midterms, and this is a particularly bad year for democrats vis a vis the Senate due to which seats are up. I'm unsure of how close the election is. I know that it's verboten to say, but I have a sick feeling that this could be a "wave" election for republicans. If they pick up more seats in the House, it'll take more than one election cycle to change their majority. Yes, the republicans will continue making asses of themselves, but they've been doing that in spectacular fashion for years and suffered very little from it.

[still_one]

11. Most of what you say I agree with, except, I think if the worst happens, and we lose the Senate

it will be by a few seats, and during that time the republicans will jump the shark. I think they will try for impeachment, which I really feel will not go over well with the American people.

[zipplewrath]

12. They fear 2016

I've heard several GOP talking heads say that regardless of the outcome here, there is real concern inside the GOP about 2016. The demographics are going against them. Texas is turning blue. Florida is becoming more of a battle ground for them. They really aren't trending upward anywhere.

And more than one Dem strategist has mentioned that although obviously the democrats what to hold the senate, it would be much easier to run in 2016 as the party NOT responsible for the previous two years.

[still_one]

13. it presents some interesting opportunites for us

[Historic NY]

14. Sort of like Mitt getting the carpet and drapery installers ready for the oval office....