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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 03:51 PM Oct 2014

"Accept Defeat" <--- newest DCCC fundraising email

^^^ email I just got from the DCCC ^^^

...so I'm going to vote my ass off on Tuesday, and I'm sure you are, as well.

If it goes poorly for us, and you come here, and there are 50 threads saying YOU PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZED PRESIDENT OBAMA ARE THE REASON WE LOST WHAAAAAARGARBL, or some permutation thereof...

...remember that the DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE sent out eleventy billion emails explaining how there is no hope, and all is lost, so "go home." <--- direct quote

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

- President Theodore Roosevelt

It ain't our fault, folks. If it goes sideways, I invite you to "Shhh" in advance.

Vote.

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"Accept Defeat" <--- newest DCCC fundraising email (Original Post) WilliamPitt Oct 2014 OP
Can't WAIT for Wednesday and the END of these damn messages! elleng Oct 2014 #1
every fundraising request goes straight into my spam folder dlwickham Oct 2014 #51
Good to see your priorities are straight. JoePhilly Oct 2014 #2
Derp? WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #3
Does your endless complaint ... JoePhilly Oct 2014 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #7
What you really mean is that it doesn't matter what Will says in the OP rhett o rick Oct 2014 #40
Yes, a million times over. djean111 Oct 2014 #55
The only thing that matters in the next week, is not letting the GOP ... JoePhilly Oct 2014 #58
OOoooh boy GummyBearz Oct 2014 #4
"Kiss any hope goodbye" is a good one, they are shameless Autumn Oct 2014 #5
Whatever...what's your brain telling you on Shaheen/Brown? BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #6
My brain WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #8
Thanks...Shaheen does seem to be throwing some good punches lately BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #10
Yeah, what's the story with Coakley? Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #18
I'm waiting for their "Make Your Penis Two Inches Longer" solicitation emails. valerief Oct 2014 #9
the sky is falling the sky is falling dembotoz Oct 2014 #11
The DCCC in action: n2doc Oct 2014 #12
ROFL!!!! That's exactly it! n/t kdmorris Oct 2014 #41
That is absolutely perfect tkmorris Oct 2014 #42
All Hope is Lost, Will. *** But for 5 dollars you can talk us off the ledge. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #13
Who are you, and how did you get into my email? WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #14
I am SO SiCK of their stupid chicken little 'the sky is falling - eeek!' Emails...... peacebird Oct 2014 #15
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #16
I'm a Democrat Aerows Oct 2014 #20
I'm not sure of your argument of taking my own advice, albino65 Oct 2014 #25
What a well-reasoned reply. Aerows Oct 2014 #28
It is as well-reasoned and succinct as the OP's n/t albino65 Oct 2014 #32
WHAAATABURGERR? Thanks, but I make my own from venison. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #46
Did you know it's against the site's ToS to use sockpuppets? Marr Oct 2014 #56
"You are a huge part of the problem" WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #24
I'm interested to hear the answer to that question, too Aerows Oct 2014 #29
I doubt if it has the talking points for that n/t BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #35
I sure would like to know who approved such a campaign... SoapBox Oct 2014 #17
I think they want to lose Aerows Oct 2014 #21
You've got it. woo me with science Oct 2014 #30
Nice, cushy job w/good benefits where you don't have to do much BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #36
^^^^^^^That right there^^^^^^^^^^ BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #50
I had to unsubscribe to them all. I was getting so demoralized & depressed I didn't even want to catbyte Oct 2014 #19
This is my first election at DU, so I want to be aware of what to expect. BKH70041 Oct 2014 #22
Well,, number 2 includes a lot sadoldgirl Oct 2014 #31
Thank You for expanding on #2 BKH70041 Oct 2014 #39
Voters stayed home because candidates were DINOs LeftInTX Oct 2014 #44
Ah, very nice. BKH70041 Oct 2014 #52
well, the best reason their BS makes no sense stupidicus Oct 2014 #23
Just saw that one and took great pleasure in deleting it. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #26
What's the secret? The bastads keep coming back! Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #47
Already voted a straight Democratic ticket today, as always. QC Oct 2014 #27
Thom Hartmann posted this on FB today Oilwellian Oct 2014 #33
Woah. That is fucked up. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #37
Has this been made an OP? F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #45
Maybe they've joined the bully culture. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #48
TPM also has an article on this: demmiblue Oct 2014 #49
This should be an OP. woo me with science Nov 2014 #60
The will have a list of the nonconformists. It's all so.....McCarthyite. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #65
Except defeat is not an option seveneyes Oct 2014 #34
Boy an I glad I don't get those anymore. Haven't for a while. Brigid Oct 2014 #38
It's a good thing for the DEMS the GOP is m-lekktor Oct 2014 #43
:-) MuseRider Oct 2014 #53
Need. More. Money. kentuck Oct 2014 #54
They are selling buriel insurance. JEB Oct 2014 #57
+1000000 It's revolting, woo me with science Nov 2014 #61
I'n now convinced 3rd way types are our parties Tea Party. Rex Nov 2014 #62
3rd Wayers are the GOPs best friend. Rex Nov 2014 #63
+1000000 woo me with science Nov 2014 #66
I'm beginning to think only a handful of us have more than 5 minute attention spans. Rex Nov 2014 #67
How many "moderates" will vote for Republicans? How many progressives? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #64
TBH, Will.....it goes both ways. Just sayin'. nt AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #68

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
2. Good to see your priorities are straight.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 03:57 PM
Oct 2014

Because clearly, figuring out who to blame if we lose, is far more important than the actual impact of the GOP winning.

And either way ... there's still plenty of time to attack the President.

Which is far more important than anything else anyway.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
59. Does your endless complaint ...
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:07 PM
Oct 2014

Multiple choice question ...
1) hurt the Dems win next week
2) help the Dems win next week
3) have no impact next week

The answer is: 1, or 3, but certainly not 2.

In other words, you may not be hurting our chances next week, but you certainly are not helping.

Response to JoePhilly (Reply #2)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
40. What you really mean is that it doesn't matter what Will says in the OP
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 08:33 PM
Oct 2014

the Left will be blamed. The Non-Left has already set the stage with OP after OP about the Left claiming to stay home. Complete lies of course. It's almost as if the Non-Left wants the GOP to win so they can do their self-righteous dance and once more burn Ralph Nader in effigy.

What is hurting the Party is the conservative stances by some of the Democratic leaders and their sycophants. When Democrats embrace fracking, something that is hurting millions of the 99%, what are the American people to think? The Republicans embrace fracking and unless Democratic candidates oppose fracking, what are the American people to think?

If you want to get the general public to the polls, tell your Democratic candidates to proudly stand against Conservative policies like fracking, Free Trade and secret Trade Agreements, the environmentally dangerous XL Pipeline, torture, drone killing, continued war in the middle east, the continuation of the war on drugs, the assault on education (Arnie Duncan), and the overly powerful NSA/CIA Security State.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
55. Yes, a million times over.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 02:00 PM
Oct 2014

Problem is, it seems like the current administration (and Hillary) are FOR those things.
Oh, and I already voted, down here in Florida. Straight Dem. Even though to some here, all Floridians are stoopid and I am a Lefty.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
58. The only thing that matters in the next week, is not letting the GOP ...
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:45 PM
Oct 2014

... win.

The OP, like so many around here, thinks this is all about him. Is he going to be blamed?

Right now, we should all be focused on GOTV efforts.

Sure, whining about how terrible all the Democratic candidates are is fun, but maybe for a few days we could focus on what actually matters and will make a difference right now.

Or ... you can start arguments about who to blame if the Dems lose, as if THAT is the priority.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
5. "Kiss any hope goodbye" is a good one, they are shameless
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 04:00 PM
Oct 2014
I voted already, straight Democratic so they are shit out of luck.
 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
8. My brain
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 04:10 PM
Oct 2014

is currently in the bathroom hugging the base of the toilet bowl and weeping piteously because Martha Coakley is about to blow another gimme election in Massachusetts, and Shaheen vs. Brown is a dead heat here in NH...but I think Shaheen pulls it out due to the carpetbagger issue, even as I think Baker cruises to victory in MA.

Any given Tuesday. We'll see.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
10. Thanks...Shaheen does seem to be throwing some good punches lately
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 04:14 PM
Oct 2014

At least Coakley will have failed upwards for the last time.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
18. Yeah, what's the story with Coakley?
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 06:50 PM
Oct 2014

She never seems to want the win. And who keeps giving her these chances to fuck up? Is she really the best the MA dems can come up with?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. All Hope is Lost, Will. *** But for 5 dollars you can talk us off the ledge.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 05:07 PM
Oct 2014

We'll triple match your donation!

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. I'm a Democrat
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 06:51 PM
Oct 2014

I don't have to agree with the President 100% of the time to belong to the Democratic party. I don't have to agree with every Democrat 100% to belong to it. I already belong to it, as does WillPitt, so kindly take your own advice.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
17. I sure would like to know who approved such a campaign...
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 06:49 PM
Oct 2014

'Cause it seems like a big fail. Could it be that idiots out there are ACTUALLY giving tons due to this sad message?

...hard to even imagine.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. I think they want to lose
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 06:53 PM
Oct 2014

Politically, the objective on both sides is to blame Congress while not actually doing anything that upsets the corporate and lobbyist masters. They love being able to point fingers, it just sucks, though, when they have to vote on the things the people who put them in office tell them to do.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
36. Nice, cushy job w/good benefits where you don't have to do much
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 07:53 PM
Oct 2014

Anything like that for us working (or non-working) stiffs?

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
19. I had to unsubscribe to them all. I was getting so demoralized & depressed I didn't even want to
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 06:51 PM
Oct 2014

vote. I got over it.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
22. This is my first election at DU, so I want to be aware of what to expect.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 06:56 PM
Oct 2014

So far I have:

1) The election was stolen
2) You who criticized the President are the reason we lost

What others can I expect?

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
31. Well,, number 2 includes a lot
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 07:27 PM
Oct 2014

If you don't like the third way, you are totally unrealistic

If you want the Dems to help ( and not just to talk) the unions, you are old fashioned: Those times are gone!

Since money decides the elections, you probably did not give enough to the Dems: What a disgrace!

If you do not support and believe in your Dem. candidate 100%, you must be an independent: Shame on you!
Do I need to go on?

BKH70041

(961 posts)
39. Thank You for expanding on #2
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 08:18 PM
Oct 2014

"Do I need to go on?"

That would be great. Chances are I'll run into others on my own. But if you, or maybe others who were here during the 2000, 2004, & 2010 election cycle, could express others that we all can expect to read here, that would be super.

LeftInTX

(25,288 posts)
44. Voters stayed home because candidates were DINOs
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 12:59 AM
Oct 2014

Voters won't be enthusiastic unless real progressives are on the ballot.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
52. Ah, very nice.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:24 PM
Oct 2014

I had one poster above suggest (in a way) that would be a broader interpretation of #2, but I think it deserves it's own mention.

3. The party has moved too far right/isn't progressive enough.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
23. well, the best reason their BS makes no sense
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 06:56 PM
Oct 2014

is because they polish the same turd before and after an election, given that any and all criticisms regardless of the time are motivated by the same dark, well defined by them reasons. I'm sure I need not provide a list of them or the labels/characerizations that accompany them.

That's because they share the same common denominator -- stifling dissent/projecting their treason onto us.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
26. Just saw that one and took great pleasure in deleting it.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 07:19 PM
Oct 2014

I don't understand what they think they are accomplishing. They are violating one of the fundamental rules of fundraising - any kind of fundraising - which says that you should do whatever you can to make donors feel good about donating, and you must never, ever try to make them feel guilty if they don't. Whoever is in charge of this fundraising campaign ought to have been fired at least a month ago.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
47. What's the secret? The bastads keep coming back!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 05:58 AM
Oct 2014

I press "unsubscribe," but the hits just keep on keeping on. "Out, damned spot" my ass.

QC

(26,371 posts)
27. Already voted a straight Democratic ticket today, as always.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 07:23 PM
Oct 2014

What a pleasure it was to cast a vote against Rick "Reptilicus" Scott and my teabagger congressman, and for wilderness conservation and progress toward a sane marijuana policy.

Felt real good.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
33. Thom Hartmann posted this on FB today
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 07:37 PM
Oct 2014

Election season is full of surprises. As a registered (but essentially skeptical) Democrat and former campaign worker, I’m used to seeing odd, sometimes aggressive or misleading messaging strategies and get-out-the-vote tactics.

Still, imagine my surprise to open my mailbox on Wednesday night to this bizarre, hostile letter from the New York State Democratic Committee, the very people I’m supposed to be voting for on November 4.

Dear Thomas:

Our records indicate that you are registered in New York County. Who you vote for is your secret. But whether or not you vote is public record. Many organizations monitor turnout in your neighborhood and are disappointed by the inconsistent voting of many of your neighbors.

We will be reviewing the New York County official voting records after the upcoming election to determine whether you joined your neighbors who voted in 2014. If you do note vote this year, we will be interested to hear why not.


I guess, given the fact that the mailers have proven utility, Democrats that complain about them might be being a little hypocritical. Still, it’s a little disturbing that New York Democrats feel the need to pull a tactic straight from the dark side: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS WATCHING. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS EYES EVERYWHERE.

http://thedailybanter.com/2014/10/new-york-democrats-threatening/
 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
34. Except defeat is not an option
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 07:42 PM
Oct 2014

The majority of Americans that have faced defeat have yet to succumb. Let's try to keep it that way.

MuseRider

(34,107 posts)
53. :-)
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:39 PM
Oct 2014

I was going to post a bunch of smilies showing my appreciation but am afraid anymore for whatever I say to be taken sideways and I just don't have the heart anymore to deal with this place.

It is SO not anyone's fault who have been doing what any type of democratic government demands or requires, making noise.

You see, I have a book that sits where I can see it every day. The Greatest Sedition is Silence, by William Rivers Pitt

It was written during quite a different time and was very popular around here...then. Now the silence part would be considered required if all you had to say was "bashing" (oh how I have come to detest that word and the people who misuse it).

Damned fine book Will. I read it on a long flight in between unwanted conversation with my seatmate, Ted Stevens That man could talk without breathing I swear.

Different time, different topics but the needs of our government still require it.

I have been around the bend several times over the long last 12 years or so with wondering what the hell you were on about but it all comes down to this, that book and that title hit me like a ton of bricks. I have never been the same since then, good or bad depends on how effective I am, lol.

Be patriotic folks, MAKE your damned government work for you. Otherwise this is what we get.

Thanks Will. This is the craziest stuff I have ever seen, crazier even that some of what has been coming out of Kansas the last few months and THAT is a hard crazy to beat.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
61. +1000000 It's revolting,
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:03 PM
Nov 2014

and reaches surrealism as the corporatist faction here spews accusations that *liberals* are trying to depress turnout by talking about the policies/representation we expect from Democrats.

The ONLY people I see deliberately trying to reduce turnout are the corporate faction of the party. In fact, I can't *ever* remember seeing such a sustained, relentless, and deliberate effort to discourage, demoralize, and outright attack the base of the party. It makes no sense whatsoever, until you realize that corporate politicians depend on divided government in order to be able to continue to claim to the electorate that they cannot stop predatory corporate policies.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
62. I'n now convinced 3rd way types are our parties Tea Party.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:10 PM
Nov 2014

They have no idea how to budget money or stress oversight, just like the tea party. THEY are the ones running around saying Shows Over, don't bother to vote - yet less than a month ago were beating over the heads every liberal they could get a hold of. Yelling at us to toe the line...a month later here they are saying we lost already. Their narrative is pathetic.

I'm sure people with a 5 minute attention span don't notice, but the rest of us sure do!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
63. 3rd Wayers are the GOPs best friend.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:11 PM
Nov 2014

So sick of the Doom and Gloomers AND I notice which segment of the party it is - hint - it ain't the moderates or liberals saying it.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
67. I'm beginning to think only a handful of us have more than 5 minute attention spans.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:39 PM
Nov 2014

I blame cable TV for most of it.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
64. How many "moderates" will vote for Republicans? How many progressives?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 03:15 PM
Nov 2014

My guess is that a helluva lot more moderates will vote "R" than progressives/leftists will.

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