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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 12:04 PM Nov 2014

ISIS wouldn't exist if bushco hadn't invaded Iraq

or at least it wouldn't exist as a group holding wide swaths of territory in Syria and Iraq. It's speculation, but it's not without a foundation to suggest that terrorism springing from Islamic fundamentalism would be much weaker today if not for the calamitous Iraq War.

Yes, ISIS is directly responsible for the atrocities they're perpetrating, and those atrocities are real- not "Kuwaiti incubator babies". There's a fucking boatload of evidence to attest to that. But if the U.S. hadn't invaded Iraq, those atrocities would not be taking place. ISIS would be no threat to millions of people.

It's not about a blame game. It's about recognizing the disastrous foreign policy that just keeps on trucking, as if it had a life of its own, as if it were the emperor's new clothes.

We're paying for bushco in every conceivable way. Worse is what the people of Iraq and the mideast have suffered. Bushco's Iraq War invasion set the course of the U.S., of Iraq and in many ways, the world and we seem unable to change paths.

Sometimes I'm just struck and dumbfounded by the tsunami those fuckwads unleashed.

And that anyone could vote for that putrid party? Unfuckingbelievable.

I may criticize the democratic party. I do think that it's in many ways a corrupt corporate cesspool- but the democratic party has a grip on sanity and, as a whole, some semblance of humanity, and the republicans are ratshit crazy and mad dog mean.

Vote as if your life depends on it. Because in a very real way, it does.

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ISIS wouldn't exist if bushco hadn't invaded Iraq (Original Post) cali Nov 2014 OP
Exactly, but most Americans just cant or wont pay attention, I heard last night that 51% randys1 Nov 2014 #1
we accept so much of what we are accustomed to- particularly if it doesn't cali Nov 2014 #2
I agree a disagree Skeowes28 Nov 2014 #3
Well they also AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #4
Gore in the WH wouldn't have put us in Iraq Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #5
k&r... spanone Nov 2014 #6

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Exactly, but most Americans just cant or wont pay attention, I heard last night that 51%
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 12:06 PM
Nov 2014

of people under 35 are voting Republican

if that is the case, this experiment we call America is done, it is over and has failed miserably

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. we accept so much of what we are accustomed to- particularly if it doesn't
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 12:10 PM
Nov 2014

directly threaten us. That's just human nature. And if no one in the MSM is regularly pointing out how batshit crazy dangerous fucked up something is, most people won't see it.

 

Skeowes28

(62 posts)
3. I agree a disagree
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 12:46 PM
Nov 2014

Bush did cause this issue but if not isis some other group would have took there spot u gurantee regional apathy will lead to the chaos in that region

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
4. Well they also
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 12:57 PM
Nov 2014

wouldn't be at Baghdad's door if a Status of Forces Agreement had been signed by PBO. I see all sides having a bite of this particular shit sandwich. ISIS was already operating in 2010 and we (USF-I) G-2 was warning about these guys in 2010 saying that if we left, they would be running wild in the region within 2-4 years.

Full Disclosure: I was a Mid-Level Army Intelligence Analyst in Baghdad in 2010-2011

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