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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:47 PM Apr 2012

"CURVEBALL" .."Man whose WMD Lies Led to 100,000 Deaths Confesses All"

Man whose WMD lies led to 100,000 deaths confesses all

Defector tells how US officials 'sexed up' his fictions to make the case for 2003 invasion


Jonathan Owen
Sunday, 1 April 2012

A man whose lies helped to make the case for invading Iraq – starting a nine-year war costing more than 100,000 lives and hundreds of billions of pounds – will come clean in his first British television interview tomorrow.



"Curveball", the Iraqi defector who fabricated claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, smiles as he confirms how he made the whole thing up. It was a confidence trick that changed the course of history, with Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi's lies used to justify the Iraq war.

He tries to defend his actions: "My main purpose was to topple the tyrant in Iraq because the longer this dictator remains in power, the more the Iraqi people will suffer from this regime's oppression."

The chemical engineer claimed to have overseen the building of a mobile biological laboratory when he sought political asylum in Germany in 1999. His lies were presented as "facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence" by Colin Powell, US Secretary of State, when making the case for war at the UN Security Council in February 2003.

But Mr Janabi, speaking in a two-part series, Modern Spies, starting tomorrow on BBC2, says none of it was true. When it is put to him "we went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie", he simply replies: "Yes."

US officials "sexed up" Mr Janabi's drawings of mobile biological weapons labs to make them more presentable, admits Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, General Powell's former chief of staff. "I brought the White House team in to do the graphics," he says, adding how "intelligence was being worked to fit around the policy".

As for his former boss: "I don't see any way on this earth that Secretary Powell doesn't feel almost a rage about Curveball and the way he was used in regards to that intelligence."

More at:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/man-whose-wmd-lies-led-to-100000-deaths-confesses-all-7606236.html
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"CURVEBALL" .."Man whose WMD Lies Led to 100,000 Deaths Confesses All" (Original Post) KoKo Apr 2012 OP
If it hadn't been him there were 100 more in line behind him. DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #1
+1. He could very well be being paid to take them off the hook, too. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #6
He was strictly a tool for bolstering Dimson's/Shooter's reason to attack Iraq. pacalo Apr 2012 #36
Curveball? Turbineguy Apr 2012 #2
''We went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie.'' Octafish Apr 2012 #3
Remember Ahmed Chalabi....Curveball? KoKo Apr 2012 #14
''We are heroes in error.'' -- Ahmed Chalabi, interim oil minister of NewIraq 4.3. Octafish Apr 2012 #41
I think there needs to be some indictments Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #26
Given the slight interest in this on this Democratic site...I wouldn't hold my breath.... KoKo Apr 2012 #28
That is my express rationale for continuing to bring these inconvenient truths up for discussion. Octafish Apr 2012 #42
right, uh uh. newspeak Apr 2012 #43
Yeah. I noticed that, too. Octafish Apr 2012 #47
These people manipulate for their own greed Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #49
Sexed up huh...is that the same as 'fucking lied through their teeth?' Rex Apr 2012 #4
I can't get it out of my head get the red out Apr 2012 #15
That was a "joke" he did at one of the DC dinners--correspondents, or one similar. MADem Apr 2012 #22
Supposed to be funny, yes get the red out Apr 2012 #39
oh, the joke was not on the news media newspeak Apr 2012 #44
Well that's true get the red out Apr 2012 #45
I know, while he was bending over looking under tables Rex Apr 2012 #24
i blame the people who believed him 100% spanone Apr 2012 #5
I bet no US station will air it or report on it. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2012 #7
if powell feels any rage, it's only because curveball's spilling it now. unblock Apr 2012 #8
Actually, Powell was said to have called the script he was given "bullshit", Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #33
Ho Hum If it hadn't been him intaglio Apr 2012 #9
There's that word again, "confidence." Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #10
Time to 'interrogate' Cheney for the truth from his end malaise Apr 2012 #11
I'm sure most of his countrymen would prefer Saddam had died Warpy Apr 2012 #12
"Intelligence was being worked to fit around the policy" gratuitous Apr 2012 #13
Won't be published here get the red out Apr 2012 #16
Yeah, and no shit gratuitous Apr 2012 #17
I wonder lsewpershad Apr 2012 #18
How is this man alive? felix_numinous Apr 2012 #19
Just a useful idiot. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #20
The decision was made to go in long before 9/11 Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #34
Bullshit! He was nothing but a fig leaf for Cheney/Bush to cover their own lies. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #21
Curveball could lie and lie all he wanted to. The Bush administration believed him and improved him. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #23
He was part of Judith Miller and Chalabi....so...I think his lies ...bore fruit.. KoKo Apr 2012 #25
exactly Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #27
Curveball didn't talk to the Project for a New American Century. He talked to governments. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #31
Believed him? whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #29
Believed him. The Bush Administration didn't tell him what to say. n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #32
Where is the fucking outrage in all of this..... WCGreen Apr 2012 #30
I remember when I actually thought common sense would step in & the checks & balances pacalo Apr 2012 #35
Absolutely... WCGreen Apr 2012 #37
That's been the way our country has been run for a long time. Look at the Viet Nam War. Selatius Apr 2012 #38
When the U.S. wants to invade a nation RainDog Apr 2012 #40
Probably far more than 100K deaths. Plus maiming, destruction of families, loss of cultural wiggs Apr 2012 #46
Downing Street memos? Royal Sloan 09 Apr 2012 #48
He was drunk out of his mind and we only used the translation from the German interrogations underpants Apr 2012 #50
A nation of laws? 90-percent Apr 2012 #51
 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
1. If it hadn't been him there were 100 more in line behind him.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:50 PM
Apr 2012

Anyone who actually believes that those war criminals were "tricked" by this guy is a fool of epic proportions.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
36. He was strictly a tool for bolstering Dimson's/Shooter's reason to attack Iraq.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:57 AM
Apr 2012

He might still be a tool. I'll take what he says with a grain of salt & lots of skepticism.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. ''We went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie.''
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:53 PM
Apr 2012

"Yes."

So, why aren't the fearless warmongers Smirko, Sneer and the Poodle in jail?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. Remember Ahmed Chalabi....Curveball?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:22 PM
Apr 2012
Invasion of Iraq

Ahmed Chalabi alongside US President George W. Bush and Jalal Talabani

Before the war, the CIA was largely skeptical of Chalabi and the INC, but information allegedly from his group (most famously from a defector codenamed "Curveball&quot made its way into intelligence dossiers used by President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair to justify an invasion of Iraq. "Curveball" – allegedly the brother of one of Chalabi's top lieutenants – fed officials hundreds of pages of bogus "firsthand" descriptions of mobile biological weapons factories on wheels and rails. Secretary of State Colin Powell later used this information in a U.N. presentation trying to garner support for the war, despite warnings from German intelligence that "Curveball" was fabricating claims. Since then, the CIA has admitted that the defector made up the story, and Powell apologized for using the information in his speech. A later congressionally appointed investigation (Robb-Silberman) concluded that Curveball had no relation whatsoever to the INC, and that press reports linking Curveball to the INC were erroneous.[15]

The INC often worked with the media, most notably with Judith Miller, concerning her WMD stories for The New York Times starting on February 26, 1998.[16] After the war, given the lack of discovery of WMDs, most of the WMD claims of the INC were shown to have been either misleading, exaggerated, or completely made up while INC information about the whereabouts of Saddam Hussein's loyalists and Chalabi's personal enemies were accurate. Another of Chalabi's advocates was American Enterprise Institute's Iraq specialist Danielle Pletka. Chalabi received advice on media and television presentation techniques from the Irish scriptwriter and commentator Eoghan Harris prior to the invasion of Iraq.[17]
Chalabi in discussion with Paul Bremer and US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld


As U.S. forces took control during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, Chalabi returned under their aegis and was given a position on the Iraq interim governing council by the Coalition Provisional Authority. He served as president of the council in September 2003. He denounced a plan to let the UN choose an interim government for Iraq. "We are grateful to President Bush for liberating Iraq, but it is time for the Iraqi people to run their affairs," he was quoted as saying in The New York Times.[18]

In August 2003, Chalabi was the only candidate whose unfavorable ratings exceeded his favorable ones with Iraqis in a State Department poll.[19] In a survey of nearly 3,000 Iraqis in February 2004 (by Oxford Research International, sponsored by the BBC in the United Kingdom, ABC in the U.S., ARD of Germany, and the NHK in Japan), only 0.2 percent of respondents said he was the most trustworthy leader in Iraq (see survey link below, question #13). A secret document written in 2002 by the British Overseas and Defence Secretariat reportedly described Chalabi as "a convicted fraudster popular on Capitol Hill."[20]

In response to the WMD controversy, Chalabi told London's Daily Telegraph in February 2004, "We are heroes in error. As far as we're concerned, we've been entirely successful. That tyrant Saddam is gone and the Americans are in Baghdad. What was said before is not important. The Bush administration is looking for a scapegoat."[21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Chalabi

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
41. ''We are heroes in error.'' -- Ahmed Chalabi, interim oil minister of NewIraq 4.3.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:12 AM
Apr 2012


PS: Love the smile on the warmonkey. It almost makes me happy to know he was so happy at what he has done.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
26. I think there needs to be some indictments
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:41 PM
Apr 2012

all the people responsible for this should be imprisoned forthwith.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
28. Given the slight interest in this on this Democratic site...I wouldn't hold my breath....
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:07 PM
Apr 2012

I think this drops like a stone. Why BBC is doing this...I don't know. Makes no sense with Cameron in there and Blair before him part of it.

But, it was nice to see the headline. It will all be forgotten by this time tomorrow...Actually it is now. It's seen as "Old News."

The Wars are "Old News" and few care, anymore. We are used to them.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
42. That is my express rationale for continuing to bring these inconvenient truths up for discussion.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:22 AM
Apr 2012

What makes me sad is how bi-partisan the interest in moving on from the greatest treason in the history of the United States is.

PS: Were I the same being, reading it on a history iPad a 200 years from now, I wouldn't believe it.

PPS: While the links may be down by then, for those still interested or may give a damn a couple of centuries hence:

Know your BFEE: Bush Lied America into War

Know your BFEE: Poppy Bush Armed Saddam

Know your BFEE: WHIG (White House Iraq Group) Made Phony Case for War

Know your BFEE: War and Oil are just two longtime Main Lines of Business

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
43. right, uh uh.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:35 AM
Apr 2012

so, little boots and his cohorts weren't salivating after 9/11, attempting to connect iraq with that tragedy. I remember reading at the time that a person (rumsfeld?) after 9/11, saying how can we connect iraq? And how about darth cheney's visits to the CIA, numerous times? They wanted that war with iraq, no matter how it harmed our soldiers or innocent civilians. Cheney's company halliburton wasn't doing too well until after these cretins were selected.

The harm they did to this country and its' people so that their friends could further their investment portfolios while our infrastructure deteriorated (so they can eventually sell us to the highest bidder) shows that these cretins use patriotism for their own devises. These chickenshitehawks would not sacrifice one hair on their heads for their country; but have expected other americans to sacrifice.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. Sexed up huh...is that the same as 'fucking lied through their teeth?'
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:53 PM
Apr 2012

I don't care if it was Satan that told Dick Cheney there were WMDs...doesn't matter, Satan was wrong and now the entire WORLD knows that George Walker Bush sent our military professionals into harms way based on known LIES. Which is a crime, but since we live in a plutocracy he will get away with one of the biggest crimes against America in contemporary times.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
15. I can't get it out of my head
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:27 PM
Apr 2012

The speech Bush made where he poked fun and acted like he was looking for WMDs. OMG! He really thought the whole shell game was hilarious.

And we will be told to just shut up about it, old news, the media has new stuff to discuss like some obscure journalist daring to say something negative about poor Anne Romney being a "homemaker".

Our country is surreal.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. That was a "joke" he did at one of the DC dinners--correspondents, or one similar.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:11 PM
Apr 2012

It accompanied a video presentation.

It was despicable, certainly, but it wasn't a serious speech. It was supposed to be "funny."

Of course, people who lost loved ones in that mess didn't find it amusing.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
39. Supposed to be funny, yes
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 08:53 AM
Apr 2012

But it struck me as a way of his saying the big joke was on the news media, and the ignorant public. It was one of the most sickening displays I've ever seen.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
44. oh, the joke was not on the news media
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:37 AM
Apr 2012

the corporate media (some who have defense contracts) wanted that war as much as little boots. Anyone, like phil donahue, who questioned going to war, was out in our mcpravda media.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. I know, while he was bending over looking under tables
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 06:23 PM
Apr 2012

our soldiers were being shot and killed and brought home in the dead of night in secrecy. I doubt I will ever forget the atocities we endured under GWB and Dick Cheney.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
7. I bet no US station will air it or report on it.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:00 PM
Apr 2012

It simply is irrelevant to today's issues . . . Like birth control, abortion, and cutting corporate taxes.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
8. if powell feels any rage, it's only because curveball's spilling it now.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:02 PM
Apr 2012

i don't see any way on this earth that secretary powell didn't know damn well that the evidence was fabricated.

he certainly knew damn well that shrub wanted the war long before the case was built.

he certainly knew damn well that "intelligence was being worked to fit around the policy".

he certainly knew damn well the point was to convince congress and the public.

and he certainly knew if there ACTUALLY WAS a clear and present danger, they would have taken military action first and asked congress for forgiveness later.

NO WAY powell didn't know curveball was full of it.




and i'm not even talking about how many, many people outside of the shrub administration were convinced that he was lying.


Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
33. Actually, Powell was said to have called the script he was given "bullshit",
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 12:51 AM
Apr 2012
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jun/02/usa.iraq

but he still went ahead and waved his vial of fake anthrax at the UN and claimed that Saddam had WMDs.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
9. Ho Hum If it hadn't been him
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:02 PM
Apr 2012

Bushco would have found someone else.

But that doesn't stop him being a donkey-pit (for those puzzled think of another word for donkey and another word for pit)

malaise

(269,028 posts)
11. Time to 'interrogate' Cheney for the truth from his end
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:13 PM
Apr 2012

I can't wait for that heart to reject him

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
12. I'm sure most of his countrymen would prefer Saddam had died
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:13 PM
Apr 2012

of old age in office if their friends and families were all still alive.

We should send him there for trial.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. "Intelligence was being worked to fit around the policy"
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:21 PM
Apr 2012

A nice way of saying that the United States squandered its money and military to prop up a lie. I know how it feels to watch my tax dollars wasted in such fashion; I can't even fathom what it must be like for a solder, sailor or marine to have their commitment and service abused like this. Or how the survivors of those killed can deal with being suckered so badly.

I notice this story is published in Britain; I wonder why the U.S. media isn't very curious about the con job perpetrated on them? That is, if they were conned at all.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
16. Won't be published here
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:30 PM
Apr 2012

If anything the US media will say that exposing the lie would be an affront to the troops who gave their lives for FREEDOM (for nothing, NOTHING!).

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Yeah, and no shit
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:58 PM
Apr 2012

In fact, were he subject to the long arm of American justice, Jonathan Owen (the writer of this piece), could expect an invitation to attend his indefinite incarceration and torture for leaking such top secret material. And, considering the respect accorded our Constitution by our government, who is to say that Mr. Owen isn't subject to our loving jurisdiction? After all, if enough people (or the right people) decide that he's a very, very bad person, we could just fire a missile at his suspected location. And then we would all be treated to the grand spectacle of alleged liberals and progressives cheering the administration for its forthright dispensation of "justice."

lsewpershad

(2,620 posts)
18. I wonder
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:03 PM
Apr 2012

how he feels about the slaughter of 100s of thousands of Iraqis during the war to get rid of Saddam?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
34. The decision was made to go in long before 9/11
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 12:59 AM
Apr 2012

One of the first things bu$h did when he got into the White House was bomb Iraq. He was itching for a fight from the get-go.

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
21. Bullshit! He was nothing but a fig leaf for Cheney/Bush to cover their own lies.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:06 PM
Apr 2012


"But Mr Janabi, speaking in a two-part series, Modern Spies, starting tomorrow on BBC2, says none of it was true. When it is put to him "we went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie", he simply replies: "Yes."



They had more than enough intelligence to blow his third rate lies out of the water.

Thanks for the thread, KoKo.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
23. Curveball could lie and lie all he wanted to. The Bush administration believed him and improved him.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:20 PM
Apr 2012

His was not the greater sin.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
25. He was part of Judith Miller and Chalabi....so...I think his lies ...bore fruit..
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:36 PM
Apr 2012

'ya think? Or, no?

"His was not the greater sin," you say.

But, the SIN was set up by the Project for the New American Century...long ago. He was just a facilitator.... and, as you point out..."He could lie all he wanted to."

The Sins are Sins Against HUMANITY though...and some price will be paid along with the Dead, Maimed, PTSD'd and our Economy.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
31. Curveball didn't talk to the Project for a New American Century. He talked to governments.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:59 PM
Apr 2012

Governments that were ready and willing to listen to his lies.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
30. Where is the fucking outrage in all of this.....
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:16 PM
Apr 2012

Why aren't the people demanding that someone must be held accountable for this fiasco...

If this just sits there and festers I assure you it will happen again and again and again...

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
35. I remember when I actually thought common sense would step in & the checks & balances
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:46 AM
Apr 2012

would take care of Dimson's demise when all the Iraq invasion hype began. I kept hanging on for all eight years. I grew up thinking those who serve in the government are individuals upheld to the highest standards of common sense & sound judgement. My faith was broken when Dimson/Shooter were not held accountable.

I want to believe that government leaders are sincere about their job descriptions as servants of the people's interest, but I've learned that too many are there in Washington focusing on politics, power, corporate interests only, un-American objectives, money.

Then I see Wisconsin stand up to their despotic governor, which began with kids & teachers from a neighboring school march into the capitol & grew to hundreds of thousands, even in icy, snowy weather.

Then, inspired by Wisconsin's grit, hundreds of thousands of protesters, with a majority of young people, gathered on Wall Street & in other major cities & stood up against corporations & the concentrated wealth of the top 1%!

We can no longer leave it up to our congress to do what's right. Our good, rational congresspeople are outnumbered by greedy political hacks to be able to make a positive difference. We have to stand up to the farce they're running.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
37. Absolutely...
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:41 AM
Apr 2012

We have to stand up and say this is wrong that no one is being held accountability.

Real accountability not that crap that the partisans use to snipe at each which degrades the whole process for people on the outside looking in.

I don't know, I'm just tired of all this shit that people get away with just because they wear suits and ties and have a degree from a elite university while the rest of us unconnected who have to suffer the fall out from their epic failures.

What's crazy is we keep putting these ass holes back in power.

Now we are setting up dynasties.

Fuck it.

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
38. That's been the way our country has been run for a long time. Look at the Viet Nam War.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 06:04 AM
Apr 2012

Somebody invented intelligence supporting the notion that US warships were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin. The attack never happened, but it served as a very instrumental lever in convincing the United States to move to sending large numbers of combat troops to what essentially was a civil war between North Viet Nam and South Viet Nam. Regardless of what happened, the arms manufacturers made bank off the war contracts. They're making bank today in Afghanistan.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
40. When the U.S. wants to invade a nation
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 09:01 AM
Apr 2012

those in power will find people to lie for them.

Remember the woman's claim that babies were tossed from incubators before the Bush I invasion of Iraq? That was a total fabrication as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_%28testimony%29

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
46. Probably far more than 100K deaths. Plus maiming, destruction of families, loss of cultural
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:15 AM
Apr 2012

treasures, destruction of institutions, our loss of trillions, US vet physical and mental trauma, poisoning by depleted uranium, lowering of human dignity on both sides, creation of the second largest refugee group in the world, and an increase of hate against us for generations. Horror.

There is a casualness about the article and about those who reflect on the war that has to be refuted.

Royal Sloan 09

(406 posts)
48. Downing Street memos?
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 12:47 PM
Apr 2012

fixing the facts to be make war, or something like that as I seem to recall. Was part of the plan to start the war based on lies, and now we hear from the guy who told the lies, great!

underpants

(182,826 posts)
50. He was drunk out of his mind and we only used the translation from the German interrogations
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 06:29 PM
Apr 2012

they were only looking for evidence to support their concieved facts.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
51. A nation of laws?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:07 PM
Apr 2012

Why should any of us respect any of our laws if people that knowingly lied us into unnecessary war are not prosecuted for treason and crimes against humanity.

Why is there no modern Nuremburg Trials right this very minute?

There are so many things wrong with the fallacious "we have to look forward not backward" childlike reason for giving the GW Bush criminal cabal.

The most profound misery from this corrupt decision will be in the future. When we get a President that gets to start his own vanity war taking advantage of all these "IF THE PRESIDENT DOES IT, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL" Doctrines that are basically a license to commit genocide. To the apparent benefit of only the Dick Cheney's, Eric Prinze's and Mitt Romney's of the world.

We have seen repeatedly in recent history how flawed laws repeat disastrous time bombs in the future. I'm thinking specifically of the repeal of Glass-Steagel in the late 90's, which led to the economic depression of 2008-2009.

The free pass given to these traitors insures more of the same in our future. And we will stand for this? Is this how we as a country honor the lives of all those that served to protect the Constitution and the American way of life?

I find the whole thing infuriating.

-90% Jimmy

An irony to this tragedy is that I have read there have been 750-1000 contractor casualties from this Iraq c-f**k. Were they mercenaries or dedicated patriots or people desperate to make big money as quick as possible knowing the risks? I don't know, but those poor dead people are off the radar of the entire country and media, from my vantage, anyway.

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