Why Liberals Always Lose Elections They Shouldn't Be Losing

[Fred Sanders]

Liberals hope it is not this way, cons know it is:

[randys1]

1. have NOT LOST YET...GOTV

https://twitter.com/DidTheyLetUVote

Remember, cons lie about what?


No exaggeration when I say

E V E R Y T H I N G

[Fred Sanders]

2. It will be a great November surprise I think, Ashleigh Banfield of CNN just slapped down her network

over their unethical and misleading coverage of voter suppression laws, she literally cheered folks to vote , a "right Americans have died for", she said, now being suppressed....seeing the twitching upper lip of the bald old white male CNN loving voter suppressor/legal analyst on the panel put down by her was priceless.....more of the same, please......

I may watch more of CNN today, the tone may be changing......

[randys1]

3. Wish I had seen it...People should vote and vote angry...you have much to be angry about

I heard one of the terrorists say "Do you want to lose pretty or win ugly?"

[Fred Sanders]

4. And terrorists they are, they use fear exactly the same way as any terrorist does...we should not

use terror except to point out the fucked up thinking of folks that would, and get angry about it.

That is something to genuinely fear and use to get out the vote. That is why they hide from the media, they have to hide their monstrous policies from public scrutiny, the facade they have painted with the massive media advertising is a thin veneer.

You should have seen it, Ms. Banfield was on fire, the voter suppressor white guy looked like his head was going to explode being lectured and unable to speak until spoken to.....it is in the contract.

[True Blue Door]

5. Protecting the weak is such an integral part of our psychology

that some of us forget that they are weak and start seeing weakness as virtue.

[RKP5637]

6. Well said!!! n/t

[bhikkhu]

7. Weakness itself is an integral part of our psychology

if we define weakness as a lack of self-sufficiency. Nobody survives long or well without other people, and interdependence is a basic condition of our species. (Not sure if that has anything to do with the OP).

[True Blue Door]

8. I disagree. We know that perfect self-sufficiency is impossible, but that doesn't mean

we don't understand the value of self-sufficiency. A strong person has a lot more surplus energy and courage to use in the service of others, so if we value humanity, we try to be strong ourselves so that we can help the world most.

But as I say, sometimes the logic of that gets twisted and we start acting like the people we protect - people who can't fight their own battles - are to be emulated.

The legitimate purpose of power is to serve those who don't have it, not to venerate the condition of powerlessness.

[bhikkhu]

10. I do agree with you

One of my motivations to be a strong and self-sufficient person is that I've been helped a lot in my life; the best way to respond to and respect that was to get on my feet and build a life from which I could help others. Weakness is best treated as a temporary condition, but its hard to become a judge of how much another person should need, or what amount of patience is deserved. I try to practice kindness, but I do find myself impatient with some people who seem to be perpetually helpless as a personal policy.

But the other way people think about self-sufficiency is to need no one, to be separate and sufficient. I was always a more or less unsociable person when growing up, and often (overwrought from work, burdened by imperfect friends, crowded in cities) thought about how nice it would be to just live in a cabin in the woods and have to deal with nobody. I got an idea of what that would actually be like when I went on a nine day solo hike in the mountains one time. It was miserably lonely - by the time I got back I was so happy just to see anybody at all, I was striking up conversations with everyone I met. People don't do well without other people.

[True Blue Door]

11. Wow, a nine-day solo hike?

I go on solo day hikes for a few hours, and I still get paranoid about bears and panthers. Really saps my energy.

[bhikkhu]

12. Pacific Crest Trail, Snoqualmie Falls to the south face of Mt Rainier

with one little side trip to resupply at a ski lodge. Its a great memory overall, just open road, an 80lb pack, and a copy of the Baghavad-Gita, but the moment-to-moment of it was always being too hot, too cold, sore feet, sore back, plagued by mosquitoes and flies, always worry about finding the next water supply, etc. And incredible loneliness - didn't see one other person on the trail. Mountain lions don't bother people much, but a friend insisted I bring a knife in case of bears (like that would have helped!). The real worry was slipping and twisting an ankle or something, alone and miles from anywhere. I had grand ideas about going all the way down to mid-California, but my boots fell apart and feet were ready to have serious problems, and I really wanted to see people again and talk to my friends and family.

[True Blue Door]

13. I was hiking near PCT in the Angeles National Forest just last week.

Was trying to bag a peak, but totally ran out of steam a few hundred vertical feet short. Didn't see a single other person the whole way. Don't really have an athletic disposition, so I'll never be able to do multi-day treks like you did. Can't imagine being able to sleep on a solo hike. Just sounds like endless stress.

[napkinz]

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