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Do you think if Democrats ran a more populist liberal race they would win? (Original Post) K lib Nov 2014 OP
Not in Kentucky, Georgia, West Virginia, Kansas, North Dakota, Montana or Arkansas n/t sweetloukillbot Nov 2014 #1
That is what a lot of folks cannot understand, in red states, liberals are NOT going to win. What still_one Nov 2014 #3
But some progressive issues are winners even in red states. AleksS Nov 2014 #8
Republicans in red states AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #10
Enough of the hybrid Democrats. Segami Nov 2014 #18
That's fantasy-land. nt Codeine Nov 2014 #2
I mean i know money is important K lib Nov 2014 #4
They need to EXPLAIN what they HAVE and WILL accomplish, elleng Nov 2014 #5
Yes AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #6
It's very complex - there is no simple answer or solution. Many, many factors at play NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #7
YES. w4rma Nov 2014 #9
sad reality K lib Nov 2014 #14
Populist liberal what? maced666 Nov 2014 #11
running on where the polling issues are K lib Nov 2014 #16
Yes* Agschmid Nov 2014 #12
Yes dflprincess Nov 2014 #13
No BKH70041 Nov 2014 #15
If they did that as well as sticking to it once they get elected Chisox08 Nov 2014 #17
Have they ever even tried? tblue Nov 2014 #19
Yes. There would a spirited debate mmonk Nov 2014 #20
They would have to try that first in order to see if it was possible. Rex Nov 2014 #21
Yes I do. B Calm Nov 2014 #22
Yes. n/t Aerows Nov 2014 #23
Maybe MFrohike Nov 2014 #24
You can ask issues by issues K lib Nov 2014 #25

still_one

(92,187 posts)
3. That is what a lot of folks cannot understand, in red states, liberals are NOT going to win. What
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:04 AM
Nov 2014

happened in MI and WI obviously indicates there is a lot of anti-labor sentiment in those states.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
8. But some progressive issues are winners even in red states.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:08 AM
Nov 2014

But some progressive issues are winners even in red states.

Does anyone have a list of where increase-the-minimum wage ballot initiatives won? Oh, they won everywhere? Even in those red states? Oh my.

So, yes, running as a "progressive" or "liberal" might not hep in a red state. But running as a guy who supports raising the minimum wage (for example) would help.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
10. Republicans in red states
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:10 AM
Nov 2014

...are not going to vote for Democrats that pretend they are Republicans. Neither will Independents and Democrats.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
7. It's very complex - there is no simple answer or solution. Many, many factors at play
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:08 AM
Nov 2014

and there are different factors in different states, or even regions.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
9. YES.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:10 AM
Nov 2014

This DLC "I'm a moderate who is going to give your money to Wall Street" bull is partly why Democrats are losing. The other part is all of the money being spent by billionaires to protect and increase their incomes.

Chisox08

(1,898 posts)
17. If they did that as well as sticking to it once they get elected
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:15 AM
Nov 2014

They might actually start winning consistently.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
19. Have they ever even tried?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:21 AM
Nov 2014

Yes, I think a populist message would have won out. I think people who encourage DINOs do the party no favors. This is what some of us have been warning about for some time. "Be a realist," we were told. And so now look where we are. We are even losing our edge among youth and Hispanic voters. Time for some real soul-searching and truth-telling.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
20. Yes. There would a spirited debate
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:21 AM
Nov 2014

instead of weak kneed candidates. I think we really need to fight the disinformation in the media.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. They would have to try that first in order to see if it was possible.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:22 AM
Nov 2014

Since all we ever get is moderates and conservative dems that run...we will never know.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
24. Maybe
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:25 AM
Nov 2014

All I know is that the current strategy of endlessly chasing respectability on right-wing issues like a balanced budget, crime-free finance, "free-market" solutions, and "entitlement reform" don't work. Either you can't win enough seats to govern or you can't win. Either way, it's a losing proposition.

K lib

(153 posts)
25. You can ask issues by issues
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:27 AM
Nov 2014

The Majority will vote the democratic way most every time but when asked who they will vote for they say republican. I believe it is more complex than that.

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