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What will happen to Obamacare? (Original Post) flamingdem Nov 2014 OP
Republicans will vote in sneate and house to repeal it Robbins Nov 2014 #1
Well that will buy time at a minimum flamingdem Nov 2014 #5
Exactly correct customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #8
The hospitals, insurance companies, and millions of people... SHRED Nov 2014 #2
Nothing different than before. 50 votes to repeal, 50 vetoes n/t Blaukraut Nov 2014 #3
60 pkdu Nov 2014 #7
You think they'll have time to hold 60 votes in the next 2 years? Blaukraut Nov 2014 #12
There has never been a veto as the senate has never passed the repeal. What R's will do is cut it kelly1mm Nov 2014 #15
The dem minority in the senate had better filibuster it. roamer65 Nov 2014 #4
I'm probably fucked. shenmue Nov 2014 #6
Don't panic yet Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #10
They will vote 50 more times to repeal it and waste our time impeaching the President for as long as jwirr Nov 2014 #9
see this - Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #11
Nothing Bad Will Happen To Obamacare ConnorMarc Nov 2014 #13
Mitch said if he was the majority leader the first day he would start to repeal Samantha Nov 2014 #14
Until insurers, hospitals, docs, medical equipment manufacturers, etc, lobby him. Hoyt Nov 2014 #20
Well, weigh the combined weight of everyone mentioned againt the influence Samantha Nov 2014 #21
I think the Republicans were against it because Obama was for it. Hoyt Nov 2014 #23
Let Him Try ConnorMarc Nov 2014 #22
They'll trade him MFrohike Nov 2014 #16
It might even get improved if republicans think they can take credit. Hoyt Nov 2014 #17
nothing pstokely Nov 2014 #18
DOA I have no doubt workinclasszero Nov 2014 #19
The GOP will attack it with a vengence. cheapdate Nov 2014 #24

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
5. Well that will buy time at a minimum
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:45 AM
Nov 2014

I know that common wisdom is that people like it and won't give it up, but they did hammer on it endlessly and have to answer to their base in some way.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. Exactly correct
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:48 AM
Nov 2014

They will make attempts to repeal it, but will be rebuffed. However, I expect them to enact tweaks to it that get attached to other legislation, such as a budget, that will present the President with a hard choice.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
2. The hospitals, insurance companies, and millions of people...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:44 AM
Nov 2014

...won't let Repubs touch it in any cutting way.

Turns out that while flawed the ACA is helping many millions of people.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
12. You think they'll have time to hold 60 votes in the next 2 years?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:50 AM
Nov 2014

Then again, you might be right. They won't do anything else, except impeachment stuff.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
15. There has never been a veto as the senate has never passed the repeal. What R's will do is cut it
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:54 AM
Nov 2014

up into pieces, and pass with D support, certain 'fixes' to the ACA, such as the medical device tax and the 'Cadillac' plan tax. Those are both by themselves unpopular even among D's. What they will not do is replace those revenue streams which will lead to further ACA problems.

The question is if Senate D's will back the ACA or not. After this political season, I think not.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
6. I'm probably fucked.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:45 AM
Nov 2014

Obamacare was the only way I could get insurance, because there are hardly any jobs where I live, except temp. I found out I may have Cushing's syndrome. I often stagger and fall for no reason. I was supposed to have a mammogram too, but if they cut Obamacare, I won't be able to afford that either.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
10. Don't panic yet
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:49 AM
Nov 2014

I think they will "overhaul" the plan. Repeal will be vetoed. Overhaul might be a topic of discussion. Or, it too may be vetoed. Let's see what happens.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
9. They will vote 50 more times to repeal it and waste our time impeaching the President for as long as
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:49 AM
Nov 2014

they can.

 

ConnorMarc

(653 posts)
13. Nothing Bad Will Happen To Obamacare
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:51 AM
Nov 2014

It's doing too much good.
It can only be improved upon going forward.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
14. Mitch said if he was the majority leader the first day he would start to repeal
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:53 AM
Nov 2014

the Affordable Care Act, and he would do it with 51 votes. I think he meant it.

Sam

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. Until insurers, hospitals, docs, medical equipment manufacturers, etc, lobby him.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:02 AM
Nov 2014

Even businesses want to get rid of insuring workers.

At least I hope he'll change his attitude.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
21. Well, weigh the combined weight of everyone mentioned againt the influence
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:06 AM
Nov 2014

of people like the Koch Brothers who think the government should not be awarding subsidies so the minions can have healthcare. If this type of stuff keeps up, it might interfere with the Federal subsidies they and their ilk receive.

So in good faith answer, who do you believe would win that argument -- organizations involved with health care or the rich that finance our elections?

That is a sincere question.

Sam

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. I think the Republicans were against it because Obama was for it.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:20 AM
Nov 2014

Now, they can take some of the credit for "straightening it out."

If Obama had proposed Medicare prescription drug coverage, it would not have passed under bush in 2005.

Like all politics, who really knows what will happen. KKKochs and Republicans might realize Medicare for all will save corporations billions.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. It might even get improved if republicans think they can take credit.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:58 AM
Nov 2014

I don't think they'd get away with repealing it at this point. They've used it to wound Obama and take control of Senate. That's what they wanted.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. DOA I have no doubt
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:01 AM
Nov 2014

Thats dead and gone because all the scared democrats will let it die. They don't want to look bad on Fox news, ya know?

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
24. The GOP will attack it with a vengence.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:52 AM
Nov 2014

They'll attach crippling restrictions and defunding provisions to must-pass omnibus appropriations bills.

It's even possible that the senate could take up one of the many house repeal bills and attach it whole as an amendment to another essential bill.

I think they will do this and soon. But of course I could be wrong.

God help us.

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