Scary. Patient attacks nurses with metal pole. Dies later.

[Liberal_in_LA]

Minnesota police have released hospital security video that they say shows a man who later died in police custody chasing and attacking nurses with a metal pole. Police in Maplewood said they still didn't know why Charles Emmett Logan, 68, of St. Paul died after being handcuffed following the attack Sunday.

One nurse suffered a collapsed lung, and another fractured her wrist, NBC station KARE of Minneapolis reported. Medical staff told police that Logan was suffering from paranoia, the station reported.

Police said in a statement that officers used a Taser stun gun on Logan when they found him three blocks from the hospital and, when that wasn't effective, wrestled him to the ground and put him in handcuffs. Almost immediately after the cuffs were locked, police said, Logan became unresponsive and later died. An autopsy was scheduled, police said.

[scarystuffyo]

1. It looked like a plastic pole that broke the first time he hit someone

[likesmountains 52]

2. So, what are you implying?

[scarystuffyo]

3. That the story is wrong that he grabbed a metal pole

big difference and bad reporting

What else did the writer get wrong in the story...............

As a matter of fact it looks to be made of cardboard

[likesmountains 52]

4. You don't fracture a wrist or cause a pneumothorax with cardboard...

[scarystuffyo]

5. No but you can if you are running and fall and someone steps on you

[uppityperson]

6. I keep thinking you can sink no lower and you keep surprising me. nt

[Liberal_in_LA]

11. it was metal. he unscrewed it from a bed

[B2G]

14. It's not metal

Freeze at the 14 sec mark.

[uppityperson]

7. According to the police, you are wrong

http://www.startribune.com/local/east/281221861.html

Logan fled the hospital with the metal bar, which was described as 3 to 3½ feet long and about an inch in diameter. It was used to attach items such as oxygen tanks to a hospital bed.

[scarystuffyo]

8. I can believe the police or watch the video

I'm glad you believe everything the police report...I don't

[scarystuffyo]

9. You tell me if that bar is an inch in diameter

It's not and you know it so why pretend

[B2G]

13. The 'pole' does appear to bend back when he was weilding it

Weird. Metal doesn't behave that way.

Stop the video at the 14 sec mark.

[uppityperson]

19. It could be, they could have made a mistake in reporting it. But that doesn't really have much

to do with the incident. A man went nuts, attacked nurses seriously injuring at least 1, ran away, taser didn't work, got tackled by police and died.

Here is more on the story, in case you are interested. It sounds like something bad happened in him to cause this. I feel really sorry for the nurses, how scary and awful, and for him.
http://www.startribune.com/local/east/281221861.html

[Liberal_in_LA]

21. i saw it bend. u maybe right

[Barack_America]

10. Delerium?

[Old Nick]

12. Was he black? I couldn't tell

If so, it puts the "dying in police custody" thing in a whole different light.

[Liberal_in_LA]

16. I don't think so but not sure

[LuvNewcastle]

15. The man was mentally ill, it sounds like to me.

These things unfortunately happen to hospital staff sometimes when they're dealing with patients who have physical and/or mental problems. It's sad, but not that unusual. I have no idea why he died so soon. Maybe the stun gun was too strong for him or maybe the police were too rough with him. Then again, his paranoia could have been a symptom of a physical condition that was killing him, not necessarily a mental disorder. If the medical examiner is competent, the autopsy should answer these questions.

[RedCappedBandit]

17. Sad they used a taser.

I don't know why they seem to be the first measure police take rather than a last resort.

I've dealt first-hand with people having episodes like this. Never done anything that would put their lives at risk - if I did I'd have lost my job. I think police need to be better trained to deal with people who may be mentally ill, assuming that was the case here.

[malaise]

18. A clearly sick man lost it and attacked nursing staff in the hospital

He ran out of the hospital and was 'tazered'. He died.

That's the story.

[Skittles]

20. aw no malaise

don't you know the police HAVE to be wrong? ALWAYS?