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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 05:24 PM Nov 2014

Where are the democratic counterparts of the openly conservative republicans?

There are lots of openly right wing republicans on the national stage who are taken seriously as candidates for the Presidency.

No where is the bias of the MSM more apparent. Wingnuttery doesn't disqualify a candidate in the eyes of the MSM but liberalism does.

Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Rand Paul and others are open about how uber conservative they are. No democrat dares to be as openly liberal as they are openly right wing. And that includes Elizabeth Warren.

The democratic party is not a liberal party. The republican party is a right wing party. It's only going to get worse. Anyone who has paid attention knows that the democratic party has moved to the right over the past several decades. And it's sadly predictable that this election will move it even more to the right, and liberals will be told even more emphatically to shut up for the good of the party.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
1. You mean, crazy people? Even the ones on the farthest end of the liberal spectrum
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 05:30 PM
Nov 2014

are basically mainstream and not anywhere close to crazy. We have nobody who is the equivalent of Ted Cruz or Louie Gohmert or Michele Bachmann or any of the other wacko passengers in the GOP clown car. The Democratic Party is not a radical party. I can't think of a single Dem politician who is as extreme-left as many of the GOPers are extreme-right.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. True, I don't think we know who they are
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 07:00 PM
Nov 2014

If you ask right wingers they might come up with someone. Maxine Waters was a favorite of theirs.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. Warren is being as liberal as she is, what she dares not do is speak of her conservative past
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 05:37 PM
Nov 2014

She was a full tilt anti gay, anti choice Ronald Reagan Republican, then a Bush Republican. How liberal is a person who can hear an administration joke about AIDS then do nothing about it for 6 years and in the middle take a moment to re-elect that fucker while standing on a pile of 20,000 dead bodies?
You tell me how that's liberal. Do you think Ted Cruz was a Democrat in the 90's? I don't. And that's why theirs get airtime. They are really what they claim. Ours are constructs and controlled images. Warren could easily assimilate her Republican history into a Democratic narrative but she does not bother to do so. She herself does not see much difference in the Parties. When she talks about being a Republican, she just says well I liked their views on the markets and then later I decided the Democrats had better ideas about the markets. Nothing about liberal issues, nothing about women's rights or gay rights. Each Party has ideas about the markets which one might like better in one Party at one time, then in the other at another, it's interchangeable to Warren, she was Republican now she's Democratic and later maybe Republican again because ideas about the markets.......

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
14. that's harsh but more than likely true
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 10:09 PM
Nov 2014

There are some quotes, stories, things in her past that will be revealed if she decides to run for president. "Progressives" will be in deep denial.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
6. Those Democrats that have moved right with the Party are cowards.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:08 PM
Nov 2014

They are afraid that if they raise a stink they might lose the little they have.

Our founders would be ashamed at the cowardice of those afraid to fight for the liberties and freedoms.

A vote for HRC is a vote for more of the same shit. If you like where we are going, you'll love HRC.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
7. Not allowed, IMO
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:12 PM
Nov 2014

The media will not provide them with a forum, and if they do find one that is a theat, they will destroy the person.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
9. No one would listen to 1,200 mealy mouths hemming and hawing. They would have to say something
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:51 PM
Nov 2014

and educational lectures wouldn't fare much better.

Would have to be bold, direct, and a lot more steak than salad.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. Kucinich, Grayson, et al aren't taken seriously (outside of DU) as Presidential candidates. Cruz is.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 10:24 PM
Nov 2014

If Cruz were only talked about on redstate or freerepublic that might be a comparison; but CNN will actually talk about their campaigns, which they never did about Kucinich or Gravel.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
16. You are correct. The crazies have moved the Overton window far to the right.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:44 PM
Nov 2014



The entire corporate and public media are complicit.

Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be consider as left wing if they were in the Democratic Party today.











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