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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:08 PM Nov 2014

Good news Democrats. We have a plan to save Senator Landrieu's seat!

Like all plans, it's pretty simple, and should be far more effective than shouting GOTV! at people.

Senate Democrats are working on plans to hold a vote authorizing construction of the Keystone XL pipeline -- approval that Democrats believe might bolster the chances of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), who faces a tough runoff election next month.

It was not immediately clear Tuesday night whether Republicans would consent to proceeding with such a vote during the lame-duck session that begins on Wednesday -- especially given the high stakes surrounding Landrieu's reelection race. Such a move would also draw howls from the environmental movement who had hoped that President Obama would resolve a years-long dispute over a long-awaited energy project in their favor.


Some people may object to the first source as too RW or whatever. So here is another.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/senate-democrats-could-push-keystone-vote-help-mary-landrieu-n246621

I'll keep an eye out on links from Huffington or Kos. Assuming that they put the information out there.
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Good news Democrats. We have a plan to save Senator Landrieu's seat! (Original Post) Savannahmann Nov 2014 OP
It's a flimsy excuse and it won't work. pathetic. cali Nov 2014 #1
Yippee!! notrightatall Nov 2014 #2
According to Jon Stewart, it was held up--so Dems like Begich and Landrieu could rail against Obama merrily Nov 2014 #3
Given that we've already lost the Senate Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #4
who in the name of King Tut thinks MFM008 Nov 2014 #5
I don't believe in saving any Republican seat, mmonk Nov 2014 #6
Charlie Pierce said it best : bullwinkle428 Nov 2014 #7
In other words, Landrieu is the excuse for them to do what they already wanted. arcane1 Nov 2014 #10
Screw that, and screw her. Marr Nov 2014 #8
They'll vote for it, she'll lose anyway, and some here will swear it's a good thing for us. arcane1 Nov 2014 #9

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. According to Jon Stewart, it was held up--so Dems like Begich and Landrieu could rail against Obama
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:16 PM
Nov 2014

for holding up and more leftist candidates would not have to deal with it at all.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Given that we've already lost the Senate
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:19 PM
Nov 2014

I'm not too worried about saving Landrieu's seat. I'd rather stop Keystone.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
7. Charlie Pierce said it best :
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:29 PM
Nov 2014

"Sorry about the Ogallala Aquifer, kids. We have to protect Mary Fking Landrieu, that legislative giant. Sorry, too, that your back 40 now looks like the garage area at Talladega, and that all the birds now peck once at the ground and keel over dead, and that it's very hard to grow anything through three feet of oil sludge, but there's a useless senator from the chemistry set once known as Louisiana whom we have to protect. Besides, bottled water isn't that expensive.

As policy, this is moronic. As the president said the other day, there is a process ongoing right now. Hell, there isn't even an approved route through Nebraska until that state's supreme court says there is. There is no reason to rush this through on the lame duck session. Why in god's name are senators who already have lost, and senators who survived and now have six more years before they have to run again, still maintaining a strategy of distancing themselves from the president? I will tell you why. They are desperate to curry favor with two groups -- their new masters in the upcoming Republican senatorial majority, and the extraction industries who fund political campaigns. Because of this, and because Joe Manchin wants to be invited to the Scarborough manse for the holiday party, the people who live, and who try to make a living, along the proposed pipeline route have to grin and bear it and hope that the damned thing doesn't turn the Great Plains into a blasted moonscape like the one that already exists in northern Alberta.

Landrieu has cited her support for the Keystone pipeline as a difference between her and President Obama, urging the administration to approve it for months. President Obama has urged patience on the pipeline, and has delayed the decision to approve it until further review is complete.

And, as politics, this is hilariously lint-headed. The Republicans are going to run roughshod over the minority in the Senate anyway, and Landrieu is as dead as Julius Caesar once the polls open in that run-off. After an entire two-year campaign, there might be three actually undecided voters in the whole state, regardless of what the polls say, and none of them is going to think through the calculation of, "Gee, that senator from West Virginia voted for the Keystone pipeline, so I'll vote for Mary Landrieu tomorrow." You have to have lived a long and fruitful life in the Beltway bubble to believe that human beings actually reason that way."

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Selling_Out_On_The_Cheap
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
8. Screw that, and screw her.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:38 PM
Nov 2014

The Keystone XL is something most of us are very opposed to. Why should we support this to save the seat of some incompetent DINO like Landrieu, when we've lost the Senate anyway? If the Democrats pass it, Obama will sign it with the excuse that he has to back his party.

Let the Republicans raise it, and let Obama veto it. Simple enough, if he's actually opposed.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
9. They'll vote for it, she'll lose anyway, and some here will swear it's a good thing for us.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 05:16 PM
Nov 2014

I hope I'm wrong. But if this is a sacrifice they are willing to make for ONE seat, then what's next?

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