Why I am such a "hard ass" when it comes to supporting the Democrats

[Peacetrain]

I have been down this road so many times its pathetic... but the continual debasing of Democrats over anyone else, because they are not 100 % perfect across the board has a been a losing proposition from the get go.

And it will be in 2016 no matter who you support.. because the right has our number on this.

Demonizing the Democrats has worked so well for them.. and they know it.. and they will beat down who ever they think is going to be oppositional to their party.

There are few self proclaimed liberals.. few and far between because they ran like rabbits from the term in the 80's.. embracing the word progressive.. just an example

They are in the midst of playing the demonization game against Clinton, well any established Democrat is going to come under that attack.. and looking for someone who will not cause that wrath to rise up on the right is never going to work..

You are being played people.. take that one to the bank..

If you have a candidate you really want to support.. be prepared to stand up for them, and not roll over when they start to roll out the oppositional research.

[BlueCaliDem]

1. K & R!!

[cali]

2. this is based on false claims. 1) it's patently untrue that DUers debase "democrats

over anyone else". 2) dems are not debased because they aren't "100% perfect".

your post would be a lot more meaningful if you hadn't engaged in bullshit hyperbole. You love hillary. Great. Fine. Tell us what you think is great about her.

[Peacetrain]

5. Bull Hockey!! this is the truth

I will support whoever wins the primaries.. I am not throwing anyone under the bus.. and if you have someone you want in there, you better get your head together and be prepared to stand up for them.. it is not only Hillary Clinton in the crosshairs.. You better stiffen your back..

[sabrina 1]

17. I support Democrats, I do not and will not support The Third Way/Republican Lite/Privatize SS

imposters. Just tell the Party Leadership to give us DEMOCRATS to vote for and they will have nothing to worry about.

Your post is typical of what makes Dem voters angry, it is false, it is asking people to shut their eyes, not questions, just look for the letter and vote, disregard issues completely, and let Republicans win on every important issue because they HAVE BUDDIES in our party.

We did that, shamefully, for way too long. I get it's upsetting to see that finally the people are waking up to the tricks.

Bullying isn't going to work or help elect Republican lite anymore, two elections should be enough to get that point across.

NOW it's up to the Party to remove Third Way/Banker/Wall St candidates since they know they will lose, and provide DEMOCRATS for voters to choose from.

I don't see the problem, it really is simple.

I am a Dem and will only support Dems.

[Peacetrain]

20. If you for one second think that standing up for the person you support

is bullying.. then you are in a LOT of trouble .. Now I will take libertarians to the woodshed all day long.. but never will I kneecap Democrats ... I do not always agree with stances..but I do not demand purges.. We have a basic platform that we can judge others one.. and we do pick through the primary and caucus system.. and when those candidates are picked... I stand up for them..Its that simple.

Some may think that the continual attacks on the President is okay because it deflects that attack machinery from the candidate they choose.. and it does not.. what is being weakened is anyone who is NOT a republican or libertarian..

[Andy823]

15. Come on cali

You know, and so does everyone else, that there is a group her who constantly debase democrat from the president to the whole party. Their posts about "purging" the party, they remarks about president Obama being a do nothing president who has accomplished nothing, to accusing the president of "destroying" the democratic party are examples of this. When posters do nothing at all be bash, bash, bash on a daily basis, they sure as hell aren't helping matters. Your claim that people on DU do not "debase" democrats is what is bullshit.

[jwirr]

18. I agree that we helped ourselves lose this year. There was hardly anyone we liked. Or stood up for.

[wyldwolf]

3. I'm with you, and one other thing

... no matter WHO the nominee is, it's a safe bet there's something, some information, hiding in the shadows just waiting to come out and bite their ass and forever taint some people's view of him/her. Happens every time.

[Peacetrain]

7. You know that is the truth

I just read Elizabeth Warren will take a leadership role.. get ready, she is about to be smeared to the hilt..

Problem is, is that it works.. It has been proven over and over.. If people would just get a union state of mind and be willing to go toe to toe with this,..stand up for who you believe in and push back.. we would be a lot farther along..

[zipplewrath]

4. Who are you talking to

Because it doesn't look like anyone here.

I could write something very similar about the "inevitability" crowd, only they actually DO hang out here.

[RadiationTherapy]

6. "because they are not 100 % perfect across the board" << This speaks volumes of your opinion

about those who critique the democratic party. Your use of hyperbole to make your target seem absurd is transparent and will likely not be taken seriously.

[Peacetrain]

8. I rest my case

[RadiationTherapy]

11. Please do so, since it is weak and hardly a "case."

You set up your assertion to be "100%" indefensible and impossible to support with evidence. You lose.

[AgingAmerican]

9. "because they are not 100 % perfect across the board"

Strawman

[Peacetrain]

10. Not a bit..just the facts

[still_one]

12. even for those that dislike Hillary I think they would agree that SC appointments under her

Or any Democrat would be like night and day compared to a Republican appointment

For the next president the odds favor at least one SC appointent and it will most likely be from the justices appointed by Democrats

The balance of the court is already tilted toward the right, but it will be sealed if a Republican wins in 2016

[Andy823]

16. I agree

I think is says a lot when someone on this board says they will NOT vote for the person who wins the nomination, whoever that may be, knowing full well that the next president will likely be appointing at least one or more judges for the SC. It's like say "I don't give a shit" when it comes to who will sit on that court. Right now we can see how much damage that SC has done, if more republicans are appointed it sure isn't going to get better.

It's also funny that when this comes up none of those who complain all the time, and love the doom and gloom, want to respond.

[think]

13. It's all about the issues and honesty. If a candidate is good on most of the issues

and honest then they deserve to have the support of the people.

Just putting a "D" after a candidates name doesn't mean squat if they suck on the majority of the issues and/or fail to honor their words.

JMO...

[Scuba]

14. 100 percent? Shit, I'd happily settle for 40 percent.

[Andy823]

19. And what about republicans?

If people don't support the democrat that is running, and a republican wins, just how much of what you support will they also support?

Could you name some democrats from your state that don't support at least 50% of what you believe in when it comes to politics?

[Scuba]

21. Sure, our most recently failed gubernatorial candidate Mary Burke.

Donates money to charter schools.

Outsources jobs to China.

Commends Scott Walker's Act 10.

Votes against teachers union.

Opposes legalization of pot.

[LWolf]

22. That's not accurate.

"... but the continual debasing of Democrats over anyone else, because they are not 100 % perfect across the board"

I'll choose to use the word "criticism" rather than "debasing," because I think the connotation is more accurate. The criticism, of course, is NOT, and never has been, because any Democrat is not "100% perfect across the board." That's simply false. The criticism is because some Democrats betray fundamental principles; NOT because they don't align with anyone "100%."