Not saying Dems didn't suck, but we still didn't lose the election. They stole it!

[J_J_]

Who does this?

False Robocalls That Wreaked Havoc On Chicago Elections Linked To GOP Activists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025810214

And if they are that open about their corrupt activities, what else were they up to?

There seems to be quite a few problems all pointing to Republicans cheating.

So, while it is good to take a look in the mirror and realize we do have problems, like the fact the party is infiltrated by Republicans pretending to lead us and we need to eliminate these fake assholes..

it is also important to realize that the media is completely at fault for the whole situation.

Those are our public airwaves they lie to us on.

If Democrats were cheating, the media would be all over it non stop.

We need to reclaim our conscience as a party, however we also need stop this fraud now.

We need to do everything we can to stop the fraud now, not just watch it.

And we need to hold the media accountable, get them kicked off of the public airwaves.

If you all really want to win elections....

[Thinkingabout]

1. When there are more Democrats than Republicans and only two thirds of eligible voters

show up to vote, don't think it is a case of Republicans stealing an election, we gave it to them.

[Skeowes28]

2. It helped

Yea the robo calls helped and the Id laws but overall we dems did not vote we lost it ourselves

[belzabubba333]

3. they didnt have to steal it we surrendered it to them

[belzabubba333]

4. If you all really want to win elections.... i'll finish this for you

If you all really want to win elections....then vote other wise bend over and welcome your new republican overlords

[badtoworse]

5. Sorry, but you need to get out of denial. We lost badly

You can't move forward and develop a winning strategy until you face that reality.

[brooklynite]

6. No, we actually lost

Yes, there were shenanigans which might have shaved some voters here and there, but blaming someone else ignores the fact that a lot of eligible voters chose not to show up, OR to vote Republicans (MA, MD). We managed to lose by not offering a solid message as to why people should vote for us.

Consider the following: no candidate, Party boss or Elected Official has claimed that we lost any election in any State at any level because of cheating.

[Zambero]

7. When 38% of eligible voters bother to vote

And 98% of eligible crazy voters are included within that figure, the crazies are successful in electing the candidates they'd nominated previously who are equally crazy. Crazy sells, especially with dark money greasing the skids.

[fredamae]

8. Holding MSM Accountable

is, in reality, as simple as Us turning them off and tuning them out. That ALSO Deflates the effectiveness of Money in Politics (Citizens United) because MSM IS their Main Tool!

Ignoring MSM's propaganda Reduces the ROI for those Corp Million Dollar Ads buys and results in a More informed electorate in the long run, imo.

[upaloopa]

9. 36% of voters voted.

I don't know what percent of eligible Dem voters voted but those that didn't helped repubs do what ever they did.
We must take responsibility for the loss

[840high]

10. We lost. Period.

[Bluenorthwest]

11. There was not 'an election' there were 50 of them and we won some while losing most

In some places Democrats won and won big. So there are vast tracts of America where Democrats are congratulating one another and saying 'we won our election!' because we did.
Just a point of fact.

[PDJane]

12. Voter disenfranchisement played a huge part.

I personally have a problem with the fact that so many Americans seem to ignore the part this plays. South Carolina, Texas, Kentucky, and the list goes on. Curtailment of early voting. Lines and provisional ballot.

This time around, there was a list of people who supposedly voted twice in different states....it was heavy with Asian, black and Latino names. No more than the names, and accusations of aliases. It's ridiculous, and it happens year after year after year.....and it gets ignored year after year after year.

The Republican party has stated that it wants to control who votes, and that everyone shouldn't vote. Why? Because the more people who vote, the less likely they are to win.

[rock]

13. I see you're getting a fair share of posts

saying, more or less, they didn't take it, we gave it too them. Well they're wrong and you're right. Not only do we have those problems you pointed out we have (in various state) huge differentials in the representative proportions. The most obvious example is it takes 3 1/4 Dems to 1 repiggie to seat a congressman on the average in NC (due to gerrymandering). Now if you live in one of those targeted districts and were a Dem, you might have no desire to go vote; and even if you did you vote only counts for about a third. I could go on, but why? You've got it!

[MFM008]

14. Democrats may have been limp

But NEVER underestimate the gop ability to steal, lie, or anything else to win. They are ravenous rabid creatures and need to be dealt with as such.