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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:40 PM Nov 2014

"I want to experience a black rhino. I want to be intimately involved with a black rhino."

Texas hunter awaits federal permit to down endangered black rhino
Corey Knowlton isn’t sure if he’s going to get his wish to hunt a black rhinoceros and bring it home as a trophy. He won a coveted permit with a bid of $350,000 from the Dallas Safari Club in January.


An avid Texas hunter may not get his $350,000 safari after all.

It depends on whether the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will allow Corey Knowlton to bring home his trophy.

The Royse City hunter has killed lions, leopards, elephants, Cape buffalo, but now, Knowlton is the holder of one permit to down a hefty black rhinoceros, a critically endangered species roaming the grasslands of Namibia.

He won the permit in a heated auction through the Dallas Safari Club in January that would in reverse, donate its proceeds protect the dwindling rhino population.

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“I’m a hunter,” Knowlton told WFAA-TV in January. "I want to experience a black rhino. I want to be intimately involved with a black rhino."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-hunter-awaits-federal-permit-endangered-rhino-article-1.2013143
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"I want to experience a black rhino. I want to be intimately involved with a black rhino." (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 OP
oh fuck you, Knowlton. You want to be "intimately involved with a black rhino"? cali Nov 2014 #1
My thoughts exactly! 2naSalit Nov 2014 #8
+++++ fadedrose Nov 2014 #35
beautiful animal! big_dog Nov 2014 #2
pic of the guy who wants to get "intimate" with one Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 #4
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #5
That's over the top. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2014 #22
Do you doubt the possibility? Old Nick Nov 2014 #24
It's possible, but it drags the daughter into the muck along with her father. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2014 #34
It was an over the top cheap shot. Next time imagine the possibility to yourself..... marble falls Nov 2014 #44
Why can these people not just take a photo? Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #3
What does it say about a human being that Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #7
That makes them sound like a serial killer, no? Arkansas Granny Nov 2014 #9
Well, I certainly would never turn my back on this person Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #11
Not necessarily, Revanchist Nov 2014 #28
Nothing good, in my view Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #14
+++++ fadedrose Nov 2014 #36
trophy. he's a showoff. elehhhhna Nov 2014 #21
Gross. nt cyberswede Nov 2014 #6
Weren't they going to kill the Animal anyways? dilby Nov 2014 #10
Ah, that would be a different story. I wonder what is going on in fact. uppityperson Nov 2014 #13
Yeah just looked it up, the Namibian Government dilby Nov 2014 #17
Yes, it was for an older rhino, past reproduction age tammywammy Nov 2014 #23
The way to be intimately involved is to make sure the species continues, to work with them vs kill 1 uppityperson Nov 2014 #12
Except that that's what this is - go look the story up. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #37
I read more after that post, need to go edit it. uppityperson Nov 2014 #38
REminds me of an Alaska, grizzly bear hunting joke. notrightatall Nov 2014 #15
Fine. Let a black rhino fuck you then n/t arcane1 Nov 2014 #16
There was a baby black rhino born in the San Diego Zoo Safari Park last June. . . Journeyman Nov 2014 #18
Nothing personal but what the f***ing zoo does is a Million times worse than this guy. dilby Nov 2014 #25
Captive breeding programs have been invaluable NickB79 Nov 2014 #33
Those who catch animals for only display purposes, yes. But those who work with breeding programs uppityperson Nov 2014 #39
I recommend a visit to this "prison" Retrograde Nov 2014 #40
I have ZERO respect for this bag of douche. City Lights Nov 2014 #19
He should get the permit, and be allowed to shoot the rhino NickB79 Nov 2014 #20
That may be, but his breathless fetishization is fucking grotesque Scootaloo Nov 2014 #27
No argument from me there! nt NickB79 Nov 2014 #32
Give that man a spear and a loincloth and set him loose Scootaloo Nov 2014 #26
He wants"to be intimately involved with a black rhino." well there are ways other than killing it Autumn Nov 2014 #29
Intimately involved? kind of a sick fuck no? nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #30
may the rhino win....decisively. spanone Nov 2014 #31
Typically sarisataka Nov 2014 #41
That sounds fuckimg sick, this guy needs mental help. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #42
Despite the moral outrage in this thread linuxman Nov 2014 #43
He's still a sick fuck. Iggo Nov 2014 #45
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
1. oh fuck you, Knowlton. You want to be "intimately involved with a black rhino"?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:43 PM
Nov 2014

I'd like to see a black rhino experiencing you intimately.

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #4)

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
44. It was an over the top cheap shot. Next time imagine the possibility to yourself.....
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:57 AM
Nov 2014

Justified hide.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
3. Why can these people not just take a photo?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:46 PM
Nov 2014

I'm not opposed to hunting when it's going to be eaten but I really doubt this fuckwit is going to be chowing down on rhino-meat. He just wants the thrill of killing off an endangered species.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. What does it say about a human being that
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nov 2014

they crave to kill something, not for food, or defense, or even some reason of utility, but simply for the pleasure of killing a living creature?

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
11. Well, I certainly would never turn my back on this person
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:10 PM
Nov 2014

or allow myself to be alone with them without easy access to a weapon.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
14. Nothing good, in my view
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:15 PM
Nov 2014

Deer hunting, I can understand. I've been on deer hunts and come back with pounds of venison (and a fine set of antlers my father uses as a hat-rack). Fox hunting, I can understand. Not the braying prats on horseback version but my mother lives in a rural area and sometimes, the number of foxes need to be kept down so they don't go after Old Stumpy's chickens. I can understand people hunting rabbit because they're so poor, it's one of the few ways they can get protein. If I grew up in the country, I'd probably have done the same (growing up on the coast, I fished instead).

But this, this urge to kill something just for the sake of killing it, I just can't understand that. It's not eating your chickens or encroaching on your land and you can't eat it. It's just minding it's own business. I can understand the people who want to view such a majestic animal, who go on photo safari's to take pictures of it (my father has been on several and boasts of his collection of endangered species photos) but this? I just don't get it.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
21. trophy. he's a showoff.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:38 PM
Nov 2014

it's matchymatchy with all the other dead beasts in his mansion, and his friends will envy him

dilby

(2,273 posts)
10. Weren't they going to kill the Animal anyways?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:09 PM
Nov 2014

If I remember correctly the Animal was either old or did not play well with the other Rhinos or both. If this idiot wants to pay $350,000 to be the executioner I say fine, it's good to see someone getting conned out of $350,000.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
17. Yeah just looked it up, the Namibian Government
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:22 PM
Nov 2014

mark several old Black Rhinos each year who are no longer able to reproduce and are a danger to the younger Rhinos and allows hunters to do a super expensive canned hunt. Basically the government is now making money off idiots with more money than brains to manage the Rhinos.

I wonder if this guy would be interested in digging a hole for me and I would even let him pay me $300,000 for the privilege to do it.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
23. Yes, it was for an older rhino, past reproduction age
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:45 PM
Nov 2014

Which helps the population, because it reduces the competition with the younger rhinos that are able to reproduce. Also Dallas Safari Club was making a donation earmarked for rhino conservation.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
12. The way to be intimately involved is to make sure the species continues, to work with them vs kill 1
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:12 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:55 PM - Edit history (1)

“the purpose of enhancement of the survival of the species" means survival, not killing of the species.

ETA
After reading more, it sounds like this one was going to be killed anyway, so if someone wants to give money for the honor of I don't know what, shit, take his money and use it for good with the rhinos.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
37. Except that that's what this is - go look the story up.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:53 PM
Nov 2014

I find wanting to kill a black rhino incomprehensible and disgusting, but my understanding is that the killing of this particular rhino will, in fact, contribute to the survival of the species as a whole - what is stated upthread, I presume reliably although I don't know for sure, is that it's an older male, past reproduction age, and is competing with younger males.

 

notrightatall

(410 posts)
15. REminds me of an Alaska, grizzly bear hunting joke.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:21 PM
Nov 2014

To which the punch line is:

" I am starting to think you don't come here for the hunting." says the bear.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
18. There was a baby black rhino born in the San Diego Zoo Safari Park last June. . .
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:33 PM
Nov 2014


Plenty of opportunity to take pictures and "get intimate" with the little fella. And if Corey Knowlton really wants a trophy, he could donate that $350,000 to the upkeep of the rhino crash and I'm sure the Zoo would get him a nice plaque or something. He could stop at the gift shop on his way out, as well, and pick up a nice plush toy rhino for his lovely daughter.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Black-Rhino-Born-at-San-Diego-Zoo-267732721.html

dilby

(2,273 posts)
25. Nothing personal but what the f***ing zoo does is a Million times worse than this guy.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:57 PM
Nov 2014

Animals should not be behind bars, ever, if people want to see an Animal they should go into the wild and see it or just look it up in a book or google it. Zoos are basically inhumane prisons and we put animals who have done nothing wrong into these prisons for our amusement.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
33. Captive breeding programs have been invaluable
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:24 PM
Nov 2014

There are numerous species alive today that would have been lost if not for captive breeding populations carried out by zoos around the world.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
39. Those who catch animals for only display purposes, yes. But those who work with breeding programs
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:56 PM
Nov 2014

they are a big help.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
40. I recommend a visit to this "prison"
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:00 PM
Nov 2014

The San Diego Wildlife Park is a very large expanse where groups of animals roam in conditions as close to their natural environment as they can make them. They're not caged, different species intermingle (the free-ranging ones are all herbivores), and it has a successful breeding program because it's a low-stress environment.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
20. He should get the permit, and be allowed to shoot the rhino
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:36 PM
Nov 2014

The Namibian government has marked this particular rhino for culling, as it is too old to reproduce, and apparently aggressive towards younger, fertile males seeking to breed with females in his range. In short, keeping this rhino alive is a detriment to the survival of the species.

If this idiot doesn't get the permit, the Namibian government will have a park ranger put a bullet in the animal and bury it in a hole somewhere to rot.

And then they lose $350,000 in revenue marked towards protecting the remaining rhinos from poachers. That much money, in a nation like Namibia, could go a very long way.

Let the moron kill the rhino, take his money, and be done with it.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. Give that man a spear and a loincloth and set him loose
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:59 PM
Nov 2014

You don't get "intimate" if you're 100 yards away. Look that sumbitch in the eye when you're chucking your pointy stick home. Just like your ancestors, if they were ever dumb / desperate enough to hunt a rhino

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
29. He wants"to be intimately involved with a black rhino." well there are ways other than killing it
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:06 PM
Nov 2014

But that would be just kind of nasty and I'm sure against the law. Somewhere. The jerk could be intimate with a nice photo of a living black rhino.

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
41. Typically
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:16 PM
Nov 2014

I find trophy hunting barbaric. In this case, an animal that is going to be culled for being dangerous to its fellows, it seems raising money to benefit the species is a net good.

It doesn't change my opinion of a person who chooses to go on such a hunt, but there is a benefit.

Now my advice to someone who says, "I want to experience a black rhino. I want to be intimately involved with a black rhino." I would suggest finding out what wine this particular rhino likes, maybe check out local restaurants too.
Oh, and bring plenty of lube.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
43. Despite the moral outrage in this thread
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:27 PM
Nov 2014

I'm willing to bet that his $350,000 exceeds the collective contributions of this site's membership to Black Rhino preservation.

The animal is old and inhibiting the propagation of new generations of rhinos. The rhino dies for the good of the species and the authorities who prevent poaching and encourage conditions to allow the rhino population to thrive get $350K. Everyone gets what they want and the rhinos thrive.

Now let's ignore all that and keep wishing death on the man/rhino rape on the daughter.

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