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Texas hunter awaits federal permit to down endangered black rhinoCorey Knowlton isnt sure if hes going to get his wish to hunt a black rhinoceros and bring it home as a trophy. He won a coveted permit with a bid of $350,000 from the Dallas Safari Club in January.
An avid Texas hunter may not get his $350,000 safari after all.
It depends on whether the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will allow Corey Knowlton to bring home his trophy.
The Royse City hunter has killed lions, leopards, elephants, Cape buffalo, but now, Knowlton is the holder of one permit to down a hefty black rhinoceros, a critically endangered species roaming the grasslands of Namibia.
He won the permit in a heated auction through the Dallas Safari Club in January that would in reverse, donate its proceeds protect the dwindling rhino population.
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Im a hunter, Knowlton told WFAA-TV in January. "I want to experience a black rhino. I want to be intimately involved with a black rhino."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-hunter-awaits-federal-permit-endangered-rhino-article-1.2013143
cali
(114,904 posts)I'd like to see a black rhino experiencing you intimately.
2naSalit
(86,582 posts)You took the words right out of my thoughts . . .
big_dog
(4,144 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #4)
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Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Old Nick
(468 posts)Read the news from Florida alone, for Pete's sake!
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)marble falls
(57,080 posts)Justified hide.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I'm not opposed to hunting when it's going to be eaten but I really doubt this fuckwit is going to be chowing down on rhino-meat. He just wants the thrill of killing off an endangered species.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)they crave to kill something, not for food, or defense, or even some reason of utility, but simply for the pleasure of killing a living creature?
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)or allow myself to be alone with them without easy access to a weapon.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)Serial killers have been known, on occasion, to eat their victims.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Deer hunting, I can understand. I've been on deer hunts and come back with pounds of venison (and a fine set of antlers my father uses as a hat-rack). Fox hunting, I can understand. Not the braying prats on horseback version but my mother lives in a rural area and sometimes, the number of foxes need to be kept down so they don't go after Old Stumpy's chickens. I can understand people hunting rabbit because they're so poor, it's one of the few ways they can get protein. If I grew up in the country, I'd probably have done the same (growing up on the coast, I fished instead).
But this, this urge to kill something just for the sake of killing it, I just can't understand that. It's not eating your chickens or encroaching on your land and you can't eat it. It's just minding it's own business. I can understand the people who want to view such a majestic animal, who go on photo safari's to take pictures of it (my father has been on several and boasts of his collection of endangered species photos) but this? I just don't get it.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)"minding its own business"
Good reasoning here...
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)it's matchymatchy with all the other dead beasts in his mansion, and his friends will envy him
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)If I remember correctly the Animal was either old or did not play well with the other Rhinos or both. If this idiot wants to pay $350,000 to be the executioner I say fine, it's good to see someone getting conned out of $350,000.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)mark several old Black Rhinos each year who are no longer able to reproduce and are a danger to the younger Rhinos and allows hunters to do a super expensive canned hunt. Basically the government is now making money off idiots with more money than brains to manage the Rhinos.
I wonder if this guy would be interested in digging a hole for me and I would even let him pay me $300,000 for the privilege to do it.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Which helps the population, because it reduces the competition with the younger rhinos that are able to reproduce. Also Dallas Safari Club was making a donation earmarked for rhino conservation.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:55 PM - Edit history (1)
the purpose of enhancement of the survival of the species" means survival, not killing of the species.
ETA
After reading more, it sounds like this one was going to be killed anyway, so if someone wants to give money for the honor of I don't know what, shit, take his money and use it for good with the rhinos.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)I find wanting to kill a black rhino incomprehensible and disgusting, but my understanding is that the killing of this particular rhino will, in fact, contribute to the survival of the species as a whole - what is stated upthread, I presume reliably although I don't know for sure, is that it's an older male, past reproduction age, and is competing with younger males.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)notrightatall
(410 posts)To which the punch line is:
" I am starting to think you don't come here for the hunting." says the bear.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Journeyman
(15,031 posts)Plenty of opportunity to take pictures and "get intimate" with the little fella. And if Corey Knowlton really wants a trophy, he could donate that $350,000 to the upkeep of the rhino crash and I'm sure the Zoo would get him a nice plaque or something. He could stop at the gift shop on his way out, as well, and pick up a nice plush toy rhino for his lovely daughter.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Black-Rhino-Born-at-San-Diego-Zoo-267732721.html
dilby
(2,273 posts)Animals should not be behind bars, ever, if people want to see an Animal they should go into the wild and see it or just look it up in a book or google it. Zoos are basically inhumane prisons and we put animals who have done nothing wrong into these prisons for our amusement.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)There are numerous species alive today that would have been lost if not for captive breeding populations carried out by zoos around the world.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)they are a big help.
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)The San Diego Wildlife Park is a very large expanse where groups of animals roam in conditions as close to their natural environment as they can make them. They're not caged, different species intermingle (the free-ranging ones are all herbivores), and it has a successful breeding program because it's a low-stress environment.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)NickB79
(19,236 posts)The Namibian government has marked this particular rhino for culling, as it is too old to reproduce, and apparently aggressive towards younger, fertile males seeking to breed with females in his range. In short, keeping this rhino alive is a detriment to the survival of the species.
If this idiot doesn't get the permit, the Namibian government will have a park ranger put a bullet in the animal and bury it in a hole somewhere to rot.
And then they lose $350,000 in revenue marked towards protecting the remaining rhinos from poachers. That much money, in a nation like Namibia, could go a very long way.
Let the moron kill the rhino, take his money, and be done with it.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)NickB79
(19,236 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You don't get "intimate" if you're 100 yards away. Look that sumbitch in the eye when you're chucking your pointy stick home. Just like your ancestors, if they were ever dumb / desperate enough to hunt a rhino
Autumn
(45,066 posts)But that would be just kind of nasty and I'm sure against the law. Somewhere. The jerk could be intimate with a nice photo of a living black rhino.
BootinUp
(47,144 posts)spanone
(135,830 posts)sarisataka
(18,633 posts)I find trophy hunting barbaric. In this case, an animal that is going to be culled for being dangerous to its fellows, it seems raising money to benefit the species is a net good.
It doesn't change my opinion of a person who chooses to go on such a hunt, but there is a benefit.
Now my advice to someone who says, "I want to experience a black rhino. I want to be intimately involved with a black rhino." I would suggest finding out what wine this particular rhino likes, maybe check out local restaurants too.
Oh, and bring plenty of lube.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)linuxman
(2,337 posts)I'm willing to bet that his $350,000 exceeds the collective contributions of this site's membership to Black Rhino preservation.
The animal is old and inhibiting the propagation of new generations of rhinos. The rhino dies for the good of the species and the authorities who prevent poaching and encourage conditions to allow the rhino population to thrive get $350K. Everyone gets what they want and the rhinos thrive.
Now let's ignore all that and keep wishing death on the man/rhino rape on the daughter.