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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:36 AM Nov 2014

All 50 US states will experience temperatures below freezing overnight says National Weather Service

Has this ever happened before?

Now, for some states, long narrow ones like Cal and Fla, there will be freezing in the northern part but not in the Southern part.

Here in Ala. freeze WILL extend to Mobile, on the Gulf Coast.

Tomorrow's low,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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All 50 US states will experience temperatures below freezing overnight says National Weather Service (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 OP
I assume Hawaii is not among the frozen. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #1
Even Hawaii... stevenleser Nov 2014 #4
Snow on Mauna Kea, Big Island: NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #6
How 'bout that! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #7
It's remarkable, and just 40 miles to the Southeast, Kilauea Volcano! NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #11
Global Cooling? TheMastersNemesis Nov 2014 #2
That's why I like the term climate change.. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #9
Actually, that typhoon never really "hit" Japan Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #30
Yes, climate change is a much better label... HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #39
Wouldn't that be 49 of the states if you include Alaska? What about Hawaii? shraby Nov 2014 #3
Yep, technically, even Hawaii... stevenleser Nov 2014 #5
Hawaii is a state? KansDem Nov 2014 #53
Weather guys seem to be slipping these days. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #8
All 50 will experience freezing temps. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #10
But global warming is a hoax. Thus speaketh Imhoffe the non scientist. leftofcool Nov 2014 #12
So, what's your point? Old Nick Nov 2014 #13
I am not the author of the OP, but I think the point is that it is interesting, nothing more. n/t djean111 Nov 2014 #38
My point is dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #40
Its been colder in the past ClimateHawk Nov 2014 #45
Link ClimateHawk Nov 2014 #47
U.S. had 4th Warmest October since records began ClimateHawk Nov 2014 #50
Her Point... Is That Most Of Us Are A Community That Takes Care Of Each Other... WillyT Nov 2014 #64
I am 73 years old and I have never seen it happen that I know of. Wow. jwirr Nov 2014 #14
I've heard of it happening Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #33
Luckily I am in S.W. Florida. William769 Nov 2014 #15
Brrrrrr! pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #16
Don't discount SoCal pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #17
I'm on the Gulf Coast Aerows Nov 2014 #21
Wanna know what I'm bringing in? pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #23
Indeed :) Aerows Nov 2014 #24
Interesting. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #41
It's 15 degrees out there right now Tsiyu Nov 2014 #18
I'm on the Gulf Coast Aerows Nov 2014 #19
Oh honey, stop and think.. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #42
LOL Aerows Nov 2014 #63
So much for global warming! nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #20
Yeah loyalsister Nov 2014 #27
It may be below freezing in Alaska, Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #22
OMG. It's 29 on the Gulf Coast Aerows Nov 2014 #25
Here's the temperature map Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #36
Where did you get that cool map? dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #48
Yes, it's an app. Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #61
10.6 here. Jackson, Michigan. brrrrrr.... eom Purveyor Nov 2014 #26
FYI it's not a function of latitude in CA, it's elevation. LeftyMom Nov 2014 #28
That map looks like it was designed by Fox News Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #34
Oh goodness. I just googled for a topo map of CA. The Sierra are in the right place, I assure you. LeftyMom Nov 2014 #35
LMAO L0oniX Nov 2014 #58
It was outsourced to India :) snooper2 Nov 2014 #46
Now THAT's what I call climate changed. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #49
12 above where I am ReRe Nov 2014 #29
Ha! It's finally warming up here 2naSalit Nov 2014 #31
Been clear and brisk here in Seattle for around a week suffragette Nov 2014 #32
Looks like Mother Nature is as pissed malaise Nov 2014 #37
Has this ever happened before?" It has actually happened this year. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #43
Yes its been colder than this ClimateHawk Nov 2014 #59
Insane in the membrane. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #44
Won't happen where I live in California still_one Nov 2014 #51
here in WA MFM008 Nov 2014 #52
Which side of the Cascades are you? dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #54
Wind chill here in Pensacola (NW Florida) was 20 this a.m. !! Grammy23 Nov 2014 #55
Thanks Obama! FSogol Nov 2014 #56
I woke up to find my car iced over Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #57
It's cold, therefore... Tree-Hugger Nov 2014 #60
Yes..but..... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #62
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. Even Hawaii...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:47 AM
Nov 2014

... "freezing temperatures in Hawaii will be limited to the highest volcanoes and are a function of elevation"

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. That's why I like the term climate change..
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:07 AM
Nov 2014

Altho, it WAS actually a typhoon which had hit Japan and sorta rebounded up to Alaska areas, which pushed the cold air mass down to us.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
30. Actually, that typhoon never really "hit" Japan
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:52 AM
Nov 2014

A few tiny islands were affected, but a high pressure system kept that sucker away from the mainland.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
39. Yes, climate change is a much better label...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:30 AM
Nov 2014

Because of global warming deniers affinity to strict interpretation of word use, the rhetorical contrast between global warming and climate change is sometimes seized upon by deniers as disagreement between atmospheric scientists.

Complex systems are hard to hold in minds trained to break down problems into fundamental, simple, associations. This is one of the problems with common applications of the "reductionist" paradigm; the too narrow view focuses on direct effects which makes many problems seem easier to solve, but it tends to overlook important factors whose influence is indirect and more than a step removed.

Not surprisingly its common for combined effects of interacting components in complex systems to lead to what seem to be counter-intuitive outcomes...such as atmospheric warming leading to greater frequency of very cold spells for central and eastern North America.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
5. Yep, technically, even Hawaii...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:47 AM
Nov 2014

"freezing temperatures in Hawaii will be limited to the highest volcanoes and are a function of elevation"

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
53. Hawaii is a state?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:54 AM
Nov 2014
That leaves 20%, which includes at least some people who correctly believe that Obama was born in Hawaii, but who don't consider Hawaii to be part of the United States. You read that right- 6% of poll respondents think that Hawaii is not part of the country and 4% are unsure.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/08/deeper-look-at-birthers.html


Of course, this was from five years ago.
 

Old Nick

(468 posts)
13. So, what's your point?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:25 AM
Nov 2014

That's an honest question. I make no assumptions. (Hey, you've been here a helluva lot longer than I have!)

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
38. I am not the author of the OP, but I think the point is that it is interesting, nothing more. n/t
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:24 AM
Nov 2014

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
40. My point is
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:08 AM
Nov 2014

It's November, cold temps like this usually do not hit as far south as now,
nor blanket the US as totally as now.
Normally Puget Sound is around 35-40 lows ( my home state) until Jan or so.
Normally South Ala. is above freezing until late winter.

It is early and it is very cold all over the country, except ( so far) so. Cal. and So. Fla.

And this is year 2 of this arctic dip in the jet stream.

ClimateHawk

(211 posts)
45. Its been colder in the past
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:24 AM
Nov 2014

It was colder 14 years ago when the country had a very cold November-December. In fact, Nov-Dec 2000 was the coldest Nov-Dec on record.

[link:http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s557.htm|

Also the coldest November on record for the Contiguous U.S. was 1911.

[link:https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/|

ClimateHawk

(211 posts)
50. U.S. had 4th Warmest October since records began
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:42 AM
Nov 2014

Lastly, the fact that the Contiguous U.S. had the 4th warmest October probably makes this November seem even colder than it has been.

[link:https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2014/10|

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
64. Her Point... Is That Most Of Us Are A Community That Takes Care Of Each Other...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:50 PM
Nov 2014

A Hurricane there, a tornado here, an earthquake, a volcano, a tsunami...

We look out for each other.

You got a problem with that?


Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
33. I've heard of it happening
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:15 AM
Nov 2014

Snowfall in every state on the same day. But that was in the official winter-- December, January, February. I can't recall a time when freezing temperatures occurred in every state in mid-November.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. Don't discount SoCal
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:58 AM
Nov 2014

Some areas here, like mine, have had and continue to have overnight temps below freezing. We can attest that it is not just NorCal that is affected.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. I'm on the Gulf Coast
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:10 AM
Nov 2014

and if it is going to be this cold, LET IT SNOW!

I had to bring my tea plants in (Camellia sinensis). Yes, that Tea. The glorious, most awesome thing on the planet, the humble tea.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. Indeed :)
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:18 AM
Nov 2014

My plants are small, though. They are beautiful, though, and smell like, well, good tea. They take time to spread out I've been told, so this winter, they are in the house so they can flourish .

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
18. It's 15 degrees out there right now
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:00 AM
Nov 2014

this is insane for November in TN

I hope this isn't going to be another evil winter

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. I'm on the Gulf Coast
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:00 AM
Nov 2014

it is cold as FUCK here - below freezing.

I love it

The only thing better would be snow!

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
22. It may be below freezing in Alaska,
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:13 AM
Nov 2014

but it is unseasonably warm by many degrees. It's 34 in Anchorage right now when it should be about 20 degrees this time of year. No snow here either. It's supposed to rain tomorrow. We would be happy to take back the cold and snow please.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. OMG. It's 29 on the Gulf Coast
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:25 AM
Nov 2014

Deep South - I had to bring even the hardy plants in. That's weird!

Screwed up weather when it is colder here than it is there!

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
61. Yes, it's an app.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:34 PM
Nov 2014

It's called "Living Earth." You can set it to show clouds, heat, wind, humidity. You can also set different cities for checking their weather conditions. Like for me, I follow Anchorage, Then Denver and Los Angeles, since my kids live there. It's one of my favorite apps. I just figured out how to capture the image for sharing like this.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
28. FYI it's not a function of latitude in CA, it's elevation.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:41 AM
Nov 2014

The cold air isn't pushing over the crest of the Sierra Nevada because the weather pattern here is essentially always for wind to blow off the Pacific from the west.

See:

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
34. That map looks like it was designed by Fox News
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:18 AM
Nov 2014

Neveda with two e's. And now Mexico is where Arizona used to be

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
35. Oh goodness. I just googled for a topo map of CA. The Sierra are in the right place, I assure you.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:20 AM
Nov 2014

Oh, internet.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
29. 12 above where I am
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:42 AM
Nov 2014

... in eastern mid-west. Kitties are in, with cabin fever already, playing hide-and-go-seek ambush in between Mexican stand-offs.

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
31. Ha! It's finally warming up here
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:55 AM
Nov 2014

in western Montana! It's been double digits below zero since last Tuesday. I think it'll only be about -8F tonight.

Glad I got my firewood together early this year. Now if it will just snow a few more inches, well maybe another foot, it'll be great for skiing.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
32. Been clear and brisk here in Seattle for around a week
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:11 AM
Nov 2014

I'm ready for our usual cloud blanket to return and warm us back up.

ClimateHawk

(211 posts)
59. Yes its been colder than this
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:50 PM
Nov 2014

The Contiguous U.S. (Lower 48) had the coldest November-December period on record in 2000.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s557.htm

Here is a map from NASA GISS showing the global temperature anomalies (anomalies relative to 1951-1980) for November 2000.

http://goo.gl/vswR3X

Also, the coldest November in the 120 year record for the Contiguous U.S. was 1911.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
52. here in WA
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:46 AM
Nov 2014

its been mid teens- mid 20s for a week at least..brrrrr. supposed to warm up a bit enough to rain......

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
54. Which side of the Cascades are you?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:55 AM
Nov 2014

Rain....must be Puget Sound.
I gotta go look up how cold Spokane is.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
55. Wind chill here in Pensacola (NW Florida) was 20 this a.m. !!
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:57 AM
Nov 2014

It's not unheard of us for us to have a cold snap in the fall but many times it is well into December or early January before we need our winter clothes or have to worry about outside plants. We should have moved some in to the garage last night but forgot to do that since we were just arriving back home after a 2 week trip and didn't realize how cold it was going to get last night.

Ironically enough (or typical, truth to tell), we'll be back up to 70 or so by next Monday, which is ONE of the reasons so many people like to come here for the winter. Snowbirds know. Cold a day or two or three and then back to more moderate temps.

Not a climate change denier here! I know to take a look at the world-wide patterns and records that are being broken...in both directions. VERY COLD in some places and BLAZING HOT, as well. Records falling....indicating something is going on. So deny what you will, but the climate doesn't care if you believe or deny. It's gonna do what it's gonna do, regardless of your belief or lack of it. It would be nice to think we can reverse the trend but we may have dithered too long and the change has been set in motion.

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