No one knows what the Darren Wilson grand jury will conclude, not even Nixon

[morningfog]

No one knows because the final vote has not occurred.

It seems that the prosecutor has either presented all the evidence or is very nearly done. Once the grand jury has all the evidence, it will be up to the jurors. It takes only 9 of the 12 for a true bill and there are four homicide charges available. The grand jury could also add charges.

The homicide charges include first degree murder, second degree murder, voluntary manslaughter and involuntary manslaughter. No one, not even the reactionary governor knows what the result will be.

It is likely that even the 12 grand jurors do not yet know what the result will be, unless they have been taking polls and votes along the way.

It is entirely possible that an indictment on something other than first degree murder is issued.

Since the national guard deployed today, it can be inferred that the prosecutor has (or will soon) closed the record and requested an indictment.

[Man from Pickens]

1. And, back on Planet Earth

Wilson will not be indicted by a grand jury run by a prosecutor who does not want to indict him.

The grand jury is a red herring. A prosecutor can famously indict a ham sandwich if he wants to. The lack of any indictment to date in these egregious circumstances, along with the leaks and other aboveboard attempts to manipulate public opinion tell us what the result is: no charges.

[alcibiades_mystery]

2. Ding ding ding

[morningfog]

3. No one knows the result, not even you.

The prosecutor called every witness and gave every piece of evidence, which is not always what happens. That is why it has taken so long.

It may be no bill. The point of the OP is that no one knows.

[Man from Pickens]

5. True

I don't know for sure. However, the pattern of protection of police criminals by prosecutors is epidemic, and to have any other expectation is to set hopes up to be dashed.

From my point of view, this is going to have one of two outcomes: as expected, or a lot better than expected. Worse than expected can't happen, because that IS the expectation.

[bettyellen]

18. they also allowed evidence for the defense- not normal procedure....

and allowed Wilson to testify. Very unusual decision which betrays bias in his favor.
whatever happens, I think we know they tried to game the system and hide behind the "present everything" BS.

[morningfog]

19. I am not familiar with Missouri law. But many states require that

exculpatory evidence or evidence of self-defense be presented if the prosecution possesses it.

If that is not required in Missouri then I think that would be an issue.

[rgbecker]

4. Say what you want....

I tell you the protestors have done a great job of getting the press on the story. However it plays out, people are paying attention. Not long ago nobody had even hear of Ferguson. Nixon and the rest are only feeding into the media machine.

[morningfog]

6. The media has been feeding fear and pimping for

unrest. The governor and the local cops have exposed their fear if black people.

I agree with you, the mobilization had been great and brought the focus on the town as it should be. But no one knows the outcome until the grand jury concludes. And it is quite possible an indictment will issue.

[logosoco]

7. I am trying to keep an optimistic attitude, but sometimes it is very hard!

I try to send positive vibes to those on the GJ. I like to hope that here in St. Louis, we can do something that will begin the change that we need to see in this country about how police are treating citizens (and dogs, too!).

I like to think that the Guard and homeland security is involved because of the threats from the klan. I am not pleased that my governor seems to be more worried about property than people.

Sometimes it is very hard to keep this hope going, but I will do my best! It's just as easy to think positively and it may help in case things don't go well and the negative things may happen!!!
There are some thoughts of negatively now. If there is no indictment I don't think I will ever believe the justice system really works for the 99%.

[HereSince1628]

8. Knowing the extent of the surveillance state, and the fear of civil unrest

that this case has...I see "the government" as highly motivated to gain the means to 'anticipate' the verdict.

I just can't imagine this would willingly be left to chance.

I know that sounds paranoid and tin-foil, but that's where I've been prepared to go not just by dint of personality but by events.

No government goes into battle without advance information. And it's clear the government is prepared to do battle.

[Bettie]

9. I hope to be surprised

but, I suspect we'll see him not indicted then put back on the job and out on the streets with a shiny new promotion,a raise, and the knowledge that he really can do pretty much anything he chooses to.

[hobbit709]

10. the track record for killer cops being indicted is pretty slim.

[morningfog]

13. Absolutely. I wouldn't suggest otherwise.

My point is to all those who think that the governor or anyone else KNOWS before there had even been a vote. They don't.

[giftedgirl77]

11. Awww, that's cute....

[morningfog]

12. Care to elaborate?

Or do you just want to be insulting and petty?

Perhaps that is the extent of your ability.

[giftedgirl77]

15. Actually, I believe your post to be nonsense or you are

very naive to believe that they don't know whether an indictment is coming down. The good ole boys club is still rollin strong in Missouri & this shit is rigged nice & tight in that cops favor. Hence, the sorry ass Governor's need to set up a perimeter & call in a State of Emergency before the fact.

[VScott]

14. I'll bet the court officers know...

or have a pretty good clue where the grand jury stands.

Especially the ones that have been working for the court system for 15-20-25 years.

[NaturalHigh]

16. I've said all along the we should wait for the facts.

The district attorney promised that all of the evidence available to the grand jury will be made available to the public. I will be interested in seeing it.

As for whether or not the grand jury will indict, I won't even hazard a guess.

[Comrade Grumpy]

17. I think you are correct. That's how it is supposed to work.

[NCTraveler]

20. Correct you are on all points. nt.