When a Nixon Called out the National Guard:

[riqster]

https://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/11/18/when-a-nixon-called-out-the-national-guard/



Sorry, new mobile device, still figuring out how to cut and paste, so I haven't put the post here as I usually do. Feel free to do so if you like.

[greatlaurel]

1. That no one was held accountable for the murder of the students was the start of the slide of the US

The powers to be learned by the killings at Orangeburg, Jackson State and Kent State that people doing nothing illegal can be killed with no consequences. It is my opinion the killings of these students have a direct correlation to the acts of violence of law enforcement officers today.

Here is a link to Wikipedia lists of killings by law enforcement officers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States


My Son Died 30 Years Ago At Kent State by Elaine Holstein Thursday, May 4, 2000 in the Seattle Times
http://www.peace.ca/mysondied.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_State_killings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangeburg_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

[riqster]

2. Very true!

[malaise]

3. I followed the civil rights movement because of my dad

and cousins but I was actually in the US when those Kent State Students were slaughtered. I never thought that could happen in America - it was my eye opener.

[riqster]

4. It shaped my political consciousness.

Realizing that our government would as soon shoot us as serve us was a powerful revelation. And I have never forgotten that bitter truth.

[malaise]

6. Same here but it hit me that if they could do that to

white students at a State University, we were all in danger.

[riqster]

12. True.

[BeyondGeography]

5. I would have lost my mind

From the Kent St. Wikipedia page:

A Gallup Poll taken immediately after the shootings showed that 58 percent of respondents blamed the students, 11 percent blamed the National Guard and 31 percent expressed no opinion.[42]

[riqster]

8. My old man was watching the news and cheering on the Guard.

[BeyondGeography]

10. I was a kid in NY; same reaction in my family to the hard hat rally a few weeks later

Lots of cruelty and ugliness in this country. Always has been.

[riqster]

11. True. Still a helluva shock to a 12-year-old, though.

To realize that ugliness ruled my country and my family.

[TexasProgresive]

7. I was in the Delaware Air National Guard at the time of Kent State.

I have never heard that Richard Nixon "called" out the Ohio National Guard. That was done by Ohio Governor Jim Rhodes at the request of Kent Mayor LeRoy Satrom. That is the usual way National Guard troops are activated for duty in their states-by the governor-not the president. If there is evidence of Nixon requesting Rhodes to call out his NG let's see it.

The other 2 incidents posted here, Orangeburg and Jackson State were the work of state and local police.

This doesn't make these incidents any less immoral or Nixon any less a criminal but please, please get your facts straight. There is enough prevarication on the right let's try to rise above that.

[riqster]

9. Read up on the details.

Rhodes did it with Nixon's cooperation and in consultation with him. That is why I mentioned the involvement of his cronies.

Rhodes was angling for a DC gig, one reason he went along with the deployment. Of course, when it went pear-shaped, Tricky left Rhodes out in the cold.