That is how the actual fuck you say that.

[WilliamPitt]

"Every dollar that we spend on fossil fuel development and use is another dollar we spent digging the graves of our grandchildren. And I'm not going to be a part of it anymore. I'm through."

- Tom Harkin

That is exactly and precisely how the actual fuck you say that.

Period. End of file.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-harkin-keystone-digging-graves-grandchildren

[belzabubba333]

1. amen

[SomeGuyInEagan]

53. Was always proud to point out Harkin, when people asked about my home state

He was such an important voice in the U.S. Senate for decades.

Lucky enough to meet and talk with him on a few occasions when he visited a project I worked on that he helped to fund. Impressed me with his genuine concern and thoughtful questions about our work (he listened and engaged). I also met many other state office holders - including current Iowa Gov. Branstadt - U.S. House Reps from Iowa and one Clinton WH Cabinet member in that job ... some were "there" while others were still in campaign mode and a couple were just seriously dim ... Harkin had a sparkle about him every time.

We were so lucky to have him for the time we did.

[Autumn]

2. Enough is fucking enough.

Time to shut this shit down.

[billhicks76]

46. I Love Tom!!!

Are you listening Hillary??? You will never get my vote. We need a compassionate person like Tom coupled with the tenacity of a fighter like____?

[Heather Kube]

54. How can you SAY you will never vote for Hillary?!

Hillary has always advocated for women's rights. That's compassion. And she had plenty of fight in her. She has always been pro-choice. That's lke a key women's rights issue. She's still standing and Republicans are scared shitless of her.

[billhicks76]

56. Sorry I Followed Closely

I'm glad she's good on those issues. But I'm not trading them for murder and mass incarceration. She's a vicious war hawk and part of the prison industry supporters. She also wants to support spying, outsourcing and the 1% in every respect. I'm not getting fooled again. She has way too much of a "special relationship" with the Bush family. They call each other honorary family members covering up for each other. She is the selection of Wall St and the military industrial complex with its new Homeland Security component directed against the American people at home. Worse, it's been chosen that Jeb Bush will be the opponent. How can we run against Nepotism if a Clinton faces off against a Bush? Are they Goddamn serious? Again? That would surely extinguish hope and change for sure and we need to bolster opposition not neuter it like we have now. Progressives are the wave of the future not corporate sell outs in our party process as evidenced by 2014 losses.

[Louisiana1976]

3. Well said.

[Feral Child]

4. K&R n/t

[bluestateguy]

5. Ah! The things a retiring politician is able to say

I don't doubt Harkin's sincerity, and he is no opportunist or flip-flopper, but it is true that retiring politicians have the ability to say things that politicians looking ahead to the next election cannot say.

[Frustratedlady]

27. Harkin is a good one and he will be missed...

particularly considering his replacement. No doubt she will keep the senate hopping with her ridiculous ideas, tutored for the most part by Cruz. She'll never come close to being the senator that Harkin has been. What a loss to Iowa and to the U.S..

[WillyT]

6. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[misterhighwasted]

7. Tom Harkin/Ed Markey say the truth

Tom Harkin is the most respectable patriot this Country has.
He is one of the true Statesmen of our time.
Wise & honorable

[arcane1]

8. Damn right!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. I'm expecting Hillary (and, other 3rd Way candidates) to make just such an announcement.

Welllll...not really.

[B2G]

10. I am all for green alternatives, but

we are years, if not decades off from pulling the plug on fossils.

I prefer a reality based approach.

[louis-t]

11. You have to actually START sometime.

If not now, when?

[B2G]

13. I thought we already started.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/cea/factsheets-reports/economic-impact-arra-4th-quarterly-report/section-4

[Jackpine Radical]

20. How 'bout we start with a President symbolically installing solar panels

on the White House?

We could start, like, 35 years ago.

President Jimmy Carter installed 32 solar panels on the presidential mansion amid the Arab oil embargo, which had caused a national energy crisis. The Democratic president called for a campaign to conservative energy and, to set an example to the American people, ordered the solar panels erected in 1979, according to the White House Historical Association.

[Duval]

21. And Ronald took them down. n/t

[Jackpine Radical]

23. Indeed.

[kacekwl]

31. It's a shame

we did not listen to Pres. Carter we could be so much further ahead of the game now.

[Jackpine Radical]

33. So he was taken out.

The October Surprise. The hostages. (Ted Koppel started Nightline as a nightly hourly"news" show that was mostly about the hostages.

The failed rescue attempt in the desert. Their release on the day of Reagan's inauguration.

Christ, remember the Killer Rabbit?

Carefully, skillfully taken out.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

43. A succinct report...

...thank you for reminding/exposing this to others on this forum.

[CanSocDem]

51. Yeh...

...too nice for a public execution.


.

[Darb]

14. The transition will take time, but will not only

save us from a worse outcome, but create an entirely new economy to boot. The shift WILL be the economic boost of a lifetime.

And before you say it, no, we cannot pull the plug, but we can begin to move far, far, far more quickly in that direction.

First step, face reality.

[immoderate]

15. Reality is what Harkin said.

How do you think we should "approach" that? Burn more carbon?

--imm

[B2G]

18. What is the alternative on a significant scale? nt

[immoderate]

22. Introduce carbon taxes. Prevent carbon producers from externalising costs.

Eliminate oil subsidies, including security. Channel that money into renewables. Some states offer tax credits and incentives for renewable installation. In Florida, where I am, incentives are miniscule.

--imm

[grahamhgreen]

32. Not true. Renewables are cheaper already.

[rhett o rick]

38. Really? "I prefer a reality based approach" And whose "reality" are you referring?

What is a "reality based approach"? What do you see as "reality"?

[Autumn]

50. Hi rhett, "a reality based approach" means leave it just like it is

I like things the way they are.

[Scootaloo]

40. How 'come "reality-based" always, ALWAYS means "I got mine, fuck the rest of you"?

[B2G]

48. How much plastic do you use?

How do you heat your home, fuel your vehicle?

The average person doesn't have many alternatives to fossils right now. I don't see that changing in the near future.

Natural gas is our best alternative at the moment.

[rhett o rick]

52. The reality is that we ship a lot of our energy out of the country. And reality is

that we need to stop fracking before we poison everyone. The energy of cleaning up the water will exceed what we gain from fracking.

But reality is that the gas/oil Corps will ravish the land and take their profits, leaving us to clean up the shit.

Reality is that if we must start the change over process as soon as possible and not wait for the oil/gas Corps to do it voluntarily.

I don't think continuing the status quo and poisoning aquifers is the politically liberal position. What position are you taking?

[homegirl]

55. AS little

plastic as possible, natural gas heat and drive a Prius. Helps to live in Northern California.

[yuiyoshida]

12. truth to power.

[ReRe]

16. K&R

I hope he keeps on spilling the beans until he's out of there. And afterward, too!

[vi5]

17. Yep. Not negotiable

Especially now that the jobs aspect of this shitpile has been exposed for the myth it is there is absolutely no reason to support this.

[hifiguy]

19. Damn skippy!

Senator Harkin.

[kardonb]

24. every $

if you can't express anything without using the f-word , its NOT WORTH SAYING !!!

[Nye Bevan]

25. The French have certainly set an example in this regard.

Nuclear power is the primary source of energy in France. In 2004, nuclear energy made up the largest share of France's energy consumption at 39%.[1][2] Looking purely at electricity, though, 407 TWh out of the country's total production of 541 TWh of electricity was from nuclear power (75%), the highest percentage in the world.[3]

Électricité de France (EDF) — the country's main electricity generation and distribution company – manages the country's 59 nuclear reactors.[4] EDF is substantially owned by the French Government, with around 85% shares in government hands.[5] EdF has said its uncompleted third-generation nuclear reactor European Pressurized Reactor (EPR) project, the Flamanville Nuclear Power Plant, will be delayed until 2016, due to "both structural and economic reasons," which will bring the project's total cost to €8.5 billion.[6]

As of 2012, France's electricity price to household customers is the seventh-cheapest amongst the 27 member European Union, and also the seventh-cheapest to industrial consumers, with a rate of €0.14 per kWh to households and €0.07 per kWh to industrial consumers.[7] France was the biggest energy exporter in the EU in 2012, exporting 45TWh of electricity to its neighbours.[8] During very cold or hot periods demand routinely exceeds supply due to the lack of more flexible generating plants, and France needs to import electricity.[9][10]

France's nuclear power industry has been called "a success story" that has put the nation "ahead of the world" in terms of providing cheap energy with low CO2 emissions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France

[deaniac21]

26. .

[JDPriestly]

42. We don't need so much nuclear. We have an enormous potential supply of solar energy in the

Southwest. We have not begun to use that resource as we could.

Individuals who use their property, their roofs, etc. to produce solar energy should be able to sell what they do not use to the electricity utilities.

Germany uses a lot of solar energy, and its climate is not as sunny as our Midwest's, or at least no sunnier.

[Art_from_Ark]

49. Jimmy Carter's energy policy included a provision that people who generated their own power

could sell their excess power to the grid.

[abelenkpe]

28. K&R

If only every elected official recognized the same.

[hopemountain]

29. exactly. truth is plain and simple when it is the truth.

the other day someone on du was arguing that we need that oil because we are all dependent upon oil and coal.

really? and why, exactly is this? why are many other countries using sustainable energy sources for transporting the goods, to get to work and heat their homes? why don't we have speed trains and non wil dependent transportaion like other countries? why has research & the developemnt of sustainable non polluting technologies for energy been stifled in our country? because the coroporatists are intentionally keeping us in the 19th and 20th centuries - this is why.

[polichick]

34. Great quote.

[aikoaiko]

35. Damn. And I just filled up my gas tank.

[3catwoman3]

36. I do so wish that...

...Senator Harkin had not chosen to retire. For a man of his quality to be followed by "Joni the Castrator" is just pitiful.

[bigwillq]

37. K and R

[spanone]

39. aye

[JDPriestly]

41. K&R.

[Enthusiast]

44. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

Thank you, WilliamPitt. And thank you, Tom Harkin.

[ctsnowman]

45. K & R

[Zorra]

47. This is good. nt

[Pryderi]

57. Reminiscent of Eisenhower's speech, "Every gun...

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

'
Dwight D. Eisenhower