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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:31 PM Nov 2014

Climate Change Is God's Way. We Must Bow To God's Will.

My header is the religious right's meme on climate change. Whatever happens is God's will. He has better plans for us. So if you get hammered by disaster it is God's will and you must accept why you were smitten.

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liberal N proud

(60,835 posts)
3. Fundies always like to play the punishment game so use this...
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:34 PM
Nov 2014

It may be God's punishment for treating his earth so terribly. If we change our ways, then the climate may change for the better as well.

You have to use their logic on them, it is the only way to counter morons who will not otherwise listen to reason.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. I long for the day when humanity finally outgrows
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:44 PM
Nov 2014

its childish insistence on believing Iron Age middle-eastern superstitions. I hope the day comes before belief in those idiot superstitions leads to the destruction of our species. But I am not holding my breath.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. Depends on what they believe.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:13 PM
Nov 2014

Nearly every significant philosophy, including many that are secular, such as Buddhism and Confucianism, has expressed the basic thought of treat others as you would wish to be treated. Follow that. The rest is just invented, obfuscation, justification and dogma.

I am a big fan of Sam Harris and the late physicist/philosopher Victor Stenger, Stenger's God - The Failed Hypothesis lays out all the reasons and physics explaining why a god is neither likely nor necessary. His reasoning is flawlessly logical and supported by the science.

I am a hopelessly logical and evidence-based thinker - I am Asperger's. But if people want to believe in something "out there" as Jefferson observed it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. A lot of believers are peaceable and reasonable people who try to live according to the above maxim. I spend zero time worrying about those people. But many others are not.

The inescapable problem is that the "holy books" are all soaked in the blood of innocents, non-believers and other-believers. Exterminating those inconvenient folks as a matter of purifying and propagating the "true faith" is woven into the woof and warp of those books. Which will provide justification for religious war as long as those books are looked to as some authoritative guide to the way humans should act. It is time to move on.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. Speaks to an incompetant and/or malignant deity. Or, belief in such.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:51 PM
Nov 2014
The only way to reconcile science and religion is to set up something which is not science and something that is not religion. H.L. Mencken
 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
7. But why?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:59 PM
Nov 2014

Why do I get smitten when it is my co-worker driving the hummer?

Is God's intention that I do a little smiting by proxy?

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
9. Often the religious love punishment. It's all god's will, such an endless cop out from taking
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:12 PM
Nov 2014

effective action and responsibility for a better future for all. Instead, they go pray. What a cop out from reality.


dawg

(10,700 posts)
12. "You know what else is God's will?"
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:23 PM
Nov 2014

Then I smack them on the forehead, really really hard!

"This!"

"It just happened, didn't it? Must be God's will!"

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