I believe that the MSM regularly conducts verbal lynchings of famous Black men

[McCamy Taylor]

and that stories like these are Stories (i.e. something that people read and discuss) because they are about a Black man and they further the Big Lie that all Black men are hypersexed subhuman animals who must be controlled, denied an education, slapped with drug use convictions and kept in minimum wage no benefits jobs for the protection of society and the greater good (i.e. profits) of their employers. That is my belief. And here is my evidence

1. J. Edgar Hoover's efforts to sexualize MLK in order to end his career as a political activist.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/j_edgar_hoover_to_martin_luthe.html

2. Jack Johnson, boxer. They could not knock him out in the ring, so they filed Mann Act charges.

http://www.pbs.org/unforgivableblackness/about/

3. Brian Banks

Years later, Banks said that his lawyer advised him to take the plea deal, saying, "When you go into that courtroom, the jury is going to see a big black teenager and you're automatically going to be assumed guilty."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Banks_(American_football)

4. Tiger Woods

5. Michael Jackson

6. Scottsboro Boys: That was such a Great Story that when one of the accusers recanted in court, the white jury voted to convict anyway. They liked the Story better than the truth.

Oh, and Black women are portrayed as hypersexual, too.

http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/jezebel.htm

[ucrdem]

2. Timing is suspect, I'll give you that.

Tiger Woods went down in Nov. '09, right after Obama won his Nobel Prize in Oct. '09. Seemed a little suspect to me. This time Obama issues a game-changing EO on immigration, and delivers a barn-burner telling the Koch congress to f#ck off, and kaboom, down goes Cosby. Hmm.

[XemaSab]

3. Cosby raped dozens of women

This has nothing to do with race.

[elehhhhna]

4. OJ - add him to the list

[gollygee]

5. Both white and black celebrities get into scandals like this

I think in our racist society we tend to make a bigger deal about it when the person is black. It's just as wrong no matter who does it but it seems to end up being more newsworthy or something, or at least it ends up with more attention, when the person is black. Not always - Jerry Sandusky, Woody Allen maybe? Not sure how much attention he got outside of DU. It does seem like the ones where the scandal becomes huge are often people of color. Or maybe when white celebrities are accused, they're more able to shrug allegations off? I'm not sure what's up specifically but I've noticed the disparity as well.

Edit: the same is true of domestic violence allegations.

[truebluegreen]

6. Like Clarence Thomas?

I'm wary about your framing.

[Rhinodawg]

7. And

7. Ray Rice
8. Adrian Perterson
9. OJ
10. And now Cosby.

[yeoman6987]

26. What about Paula Deen

It does certainly happen to celebrities all the time. I am thankful not to be famous. It is nasty what the media does to all famous when they do something in error.

[cwydro]

34. Huh?

Paula raped someone?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

38. 11. Woody Alllen

12. Roman Polanski

[grasswire]

8. don't forget Jesse Jackson

...after he garnered nine million votes for president.

[ucrdem]

10. JJ jr. too

Apparently he's serving a 30-month sentence for campaign finance misappropriation, in the neighborhood of 700 k, and his wife goes in for a year as soon he gets out.

Seems awfully harsh doesn't it?

[Rhinodawg]

9. If you don't think race plays a part,

then you haven't been paying attention.

[Rhinodawg]

16. What a f**king lie.

Name one remark I've said about women who allege rape...name one !! NOW!!..NAME ONE !!!

And if you want to talk about stirring up people, who said these words..

"The fact remains that fundamentalism within Islam, at this point in history, is a more powerful force than it is within any of the other major religions re the manifestation of violence."


heres a hint....its YOU.

You just keep trying to bait me so you can hit the alert button and I damn well wont give you the chance.

Its obvious you are just stalking me.... like you do other people.

I will say it publically...Please stop stalking me !!

[Rhinodawg]

18. I have never said anything like that.

That's just beneath contempt.

LETS SEE SOME PROOF !!! THERE IS NONE !!

[bravenak]

19. I agree.

[Rhinodawg]

20. Thank you.

Sadly there are people in the world who are so filled with hate they can't see beyond their own racism.

[Lex]

11. And women of all colors are regularly destroyed when coming forward about sexual assaults. nt

[gollygee]

12. Also true.

Doesn't make the OP any less true though. Our society seems more outraged by bad behavior depending on who does it, but the effect on the victims is the same regardless.

[Rhinodawg]

29. Great post.

I don't know if it's true and I don't know if it's false.

But you have to wonder if race is part of the story.

It sure wouldn't be the first time.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

39. No, you really, really don't.

A large number of women who don't know each other all made similar allegations that the same celebrity raped them with broadly similar MOs?

Are you seriously suggesting that if the celebrity in question was white it would not be reported?

[AnalystInParadise]

23. Like Crystal Mangum

n/t

[cali]

13. Tiger Woods? Bullshit. He was the recipient of adoring press

Michael Jackson? Hardly.

[ctaylors6]

17. I agree on Tiger

He was a media darling until he hit a tree with clown car full of mistresses

[Tom Rinaldo]

15. All true, but

If by any chance you are alluding to Bill Cosby, he is an extremely talented man who became the consensus token beloved black celebrity for much of white America. He perhaps was given such great respect while other black men weren't so that many whites could then claim "see, we don't really harbor racist sentiments, we watch the Cosby show" - which is often the very purpose of establishing and elevating a token. Another black man long ago would have been arrested on rape charges, but relatively little effort went into corroborating Cosby's alleged victims stories at the time.

Now that the cone of silence regarding Cosby's alleged behavior has been shattered yes, it will now be treated as another salacious story about black men and sexuality. But I am currently inclined to believe that there is fire also with this smoke.

[ucrdem]

21. It's the timing that seems suspicious.

Why would these stories break at the particular times they do? Tiger apparently had several affairs while touring, none of them scandalous, but right after Obama's big triumph in Oslo, bam, suddenly Tiger is an adulterer, horrors!! And for the next month it was wall-to-wall Tiger-bashing. This time it's Cosby who's getting the treatment, right after Obama's immigration speech. So it looks like the media are giving us "something else to think about."

[Nye Bevan]

25. Wasn't it because Tiger crashed his car trying to escape from his irate wife? (nt)

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. You think some shadowy group orchestrated a distraction from Obama's Nobel Prize?

Hell, half of Obama's supporters were embarrassed by that. Maybe it was David Axelrod who set up Tiger.

Your theory is ridiculous.

[ucrdem]

30. Shadowy groups like WaPo and the Guardian who kicked that Verizon warrant to the stars?

And "broke" their big "story" while Obama was negotiating cyber security with Xi in Palm Springs? And then won a freaking Pulitzer Prize for best Benghazi of the year?

I wouldn't call them shadowy.

[MADem]

31. A comedian named Hannibal Buress had been making off-the-cuff jokes in his act about Cosby for

MONTHS now.

Someone recorded him doing stand up, put it out on the web, and that's when the Cosby rape charges took off.

This was not really news, it was percolating below the surface for some time now.

[ucrdem]

36. That's more or less that's what I'm getting at:

it wasn't news, but now it is. Why? There's no new lawsuit, and the last one was apparently settled nine years ago. And the fresh stories coming out are presumably the result of reporters phoning and asking. As for the comedy routine, it's interesting, but unless he said it during a Superbowl broadcast, I don't see how it could have sparked the Cosby take-down. There are a lot of comics saying a lot of stuff and this is the first I've heard of Hannibal Buress.

[MADem]

40. It started with one customer at a comedy club with a camera....

I think it reached a lot of people who a) Like comedy and b) Never heard of Hannibal Buress. A fair share of people get their comedy fix through YOUTUBE. I've seen a lot of comedians I would never otherwise know through YT. I have seen Buress before. He's got an edge to him, not afraid to go there.

He told people to "google Bill Cosby rapist" and so they did.

[alarimer]

22. Oh FFS!

You are mixing apples and oranges here.

Tiger Woods is an asshole, but not a criminal as far as I can tell. No one ever suggested he was.

SOME of those people were in fact guilty as sin, otherwise.

[Nye Bevan]

24. If it had been Jerry Seinfeld instead of Bill Cosby

I suspect it would have been just as big a story.

[MADem]

41. Maybe not, but Seinfeld did dump his teen girlfriend (in his 30s) for a newly married woman.

There's an expectation of bad behavior (though he has kept a low profile since his unexpected marriage).

Cosby has a reputation as a wholesome family man, and the sharp contrast between his "persona" and his reality is what astounds people.

[bigwillq]

28. All these men deserve the criticism.

Tiger. Michael Jackson. Jesse Jackson.
And Cosby, if these allegations are true.
And not because of their skin color.

[MFM008]

32. 16 women and counting?

WHY would 16 women of varied background come out and say these things about one of the most powerful, influential men of the past 50 years? They have little to gain except scorn. I, 2 maybe 3 women perhaps may lie but 16? SIXTEEN. (so far)
There is a pattern here and I believe it is a pattern that was used for most of Cosbys life. Why not, it worked. What nut would come out with such allegations about Americas Dad?

[malaise]

33. Why would thousands of white men just come out and say

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Obama is not an American. You go first.

[McCamy Taylor]

42. Bingo.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. 16 Women? Logic dictates that it's GOTTA be a conspiracy!

either that, or, you know, he actually did it.

[Douglas Carpenter]

37. well that may be true

But judging by overwhelming evidence - Bill Cosby probably committed some rapes. OJ probably committed two murders. And Michael Jackson probably was attracted to young boys. How much he acted on it is questionable though.

Reality can be brutal at times.