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Peregrine Took

(7,417 posts)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:13 PM Nov 2014

SNL opening skit on Immigration didn't make sense and wasn't funny.

Reminds me of Tweety when, just when you think he has seen the light, he switches over to the evil side.

Last night they did a thing on the Immigration Executive Order and had Kenan Thompson dressed up like he was the Senate Bill that has been lying around for months waiting for the House to act on it. SNL portrayed it as if it was Obama that was holding it up these many months as, in the skit, he kept kicking it down the stairs. It would crawl back up to him and he would kick it away again. That doesn't even make sense and isn't accurate and it wasn't funny. Don't the writers know what's going on?

Every few weeks I guess SNL has to give the Dems a kick to show the Thugs they are impartial?? I hate that.

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SNL opening skit on Immigration didn't make sense and wasn't funny. (Original Post) Peregrine Took Nov 2014 OP
I'm not surprised. I have said it many times: Orrex Nov 2014 #1
The easy to prove how unfunny SNL is braddy Nov 2014 #27
Even in its heyday, it wasn't that great. Frank Cannon Nov 2014 #39
Very true CrawlingChaos Nov 2014 #32
I sat there watching it with a sick feeling sketchy Nov 2014 #2
I think it is just the easy way to explain it, hollysmom Nov 2014 #3
Easy way to explain what DIDN'T happen :) sketchy Nov 2014 #4
Yes, it really was shockingly tea party thinking. Peregrine Took Nov 2014 #5
easier than explaining that the bill will not be passed by congress - ever. hollysmom Nov 2014 #7
SNL hasn't been funny for years still_one Nov 2014 #6
Here is the link to the "skit" - incredibly wrong and why did they do it???? Peregrine Took Nov 2014 #8
they are telling people Obama vetoed the bill Enrique Nov 2014 #9
I think what they were trying to say YarnAddict Nov 2014 #10
The Emancipation Proclamation was an Executive Order sketchy Nov 2014 #14
Very true, YarnAddict Nov 2014 #15
Actually it was not. former9thward Nov 2014 #20
This is making the rounds, but isn't true joeglow3 Nov 2014 #43
I liked the skit about the high school drama production... SidDithers Nov 2014 #11
Ted Cruz liked it. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #12
And your show would be off the air quickly. nt Logical Nov 2014 #34
Yeah, comedies from a liberal POV always fail. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #36
SLN I bet is 90% liberal. We can deal with 10% jokes about us. nt Logical Nov 2014 #37
Link for the lazy... Oktober Nov 2014 #13
They do better with humor from a liberal view like this one.... TeamPooka Nov 2014 #16
That skit was hysterical. bigwillq Nov 2014 #24
I wish I could find the skit in which Will Ferrall is Bush, right after ... JoePhilly Nov 2014 #17
here ya go UglyGreed Nov 2014 #19
That seems to be only the Ralph Nader part. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #23
Yes I thought it would include UglyGreed Nov 2014 #25
I liked it! rock Nov 2014 #18
I did too AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #41
Humor is humor. former9thward Nov 2014 #21
Things that are not true are usually not as funny sketchy Nov 2014 #22
Parody is finding the humor based on truth. This was just a bunch of lies. jillan Nov 2014 #28
They make fun of the GOP much more than us. And people believe them also I assume. nt Logical Nov 2014 #35
I found it funny because ChazII Nov 2014 #38
I thought it said Rs might create an immigration bill some day ctaylors6 Nov 2014 #26
I watched it and all I could think was that Lorne Michaels started watching faux. jillan Nov 2014 #29
WTF Moment.. The Mayor of NYC likes what the President is doing on Immigration because Cha Nov 2014 #30
Do they mean 100,000 law breakers? AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #42
I stopped watching this show a while back Gothmog Nov 2014 #31
It is a comedy show about all topics. We will be picked on at times. No big deal. nt Logical Nov 2014 #33
Well you just summed up the last 20 years of SNL krawhitham Nov 2014 #40
I thought it was well done and funny, too lynne Nov 2014 #44
I thought it was funny. DemocraticWing Nov 2014 #45
I thought the guy who played the bill sung the song pretty damn good davidpdx Nov 2014 #46
I don't get people thinking it was funny. 6000eliot Nov 2014 #47

Orrex

(63,222 posts)
1. I'm not surprised. I have said it many times:
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:15 PM
Nov 2014

If you took all of the funny stuff from SNL's entire run, you could almost make one good season.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
27. The easy to prove how unfunny SNL is
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:20 PM
Nov 2014

to look at DVDs of the show during the day time, it will shock you how far apart and few the funny skits or moments are.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
39. Even in its heyday, it wasn't that great.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:01 AM
Nov 2014

My wife and I caught a few reruns recently with Belushi, Ackroyd, et al. The show does not hold up as well as you think it would.

On the other hand, I rented a few disks with some old SCTVs on it and laughed my ass off.

sketchy

(458 posts)
2. I sat there watching it with a sick feeling
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:29 PM
Nov 2014

Talk about Disinformation.

I'm wondering if they have to run sketches past their new Comcast masters, or something...

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
3. I think it is just the easy way to explain it,
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:29 PM
Nov 2014

no reason why they could not have included the bill being stopped in the house though. But who knows who the writers are now, could be a bunch of FoX news rejects, ha ha

sketchy

(458 posts)
4. Easy way to explain what DIDN'T happen :)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:31 PM
Nov 2014

For example, Obama has never actually been presented with a bill, much less pushed it down the capitol stairs.

Peregrine Took

(7,417 posts)
5. Yes, it really was shockingly tea party thinking.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:40 PM
Nov 2014

I wonder who in the hell wrote it? I'm going to look it up. It was total lies.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
7. easier than explaining that the bill will not be passed by congress - ever.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:42 PM
Nov 2014

if a full explanation would have been given, might have interrupted the flow of the script. long ago and far away, I was an audience for this how. I went to the dress rehearsal which ends a half hour before the show and then ran home to watch the show. I can tell you

1) it is like a different show, the lines are rewritten, skits are added and deleted and edited with in an inch of their life,
2) some times people improve and take it in a different direction.

In this case, I would guess it was written poorly followed by some script choices, like having the bill bounce down the stairs meant writing it the way republicans would have. I don't know if the rumored drug use is still as heavy now, but I heard (on some interview show recently) the drinking is, so basically while the season is on, there is no time for real information.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. they are telling people Obama vetoed the bill
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:45 PM
Nov 2014

which of course he didn't and wouldn't. That skit is simply a lie.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
10. I think what they were trying to say
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:55 PM
Nov 2014

is that legislation is supposed to come from the legislative branch--Congress, and that EOs are supposed to be for minor stuff, like naming national parks and holidays.

The immigration thing is major, and should have come through the Congress. It's inexcusable that the House sat on the bill for that long, but it probably could have been handled in a better way than by an EO. It may have set up a genuine Constitutional issue that could come back to bite us in the ass--the same way I fear the Senate's "nuclear option" may. Imagine if the next R prez (and since the last election, I fear that it could happen) starts ruling by fiat.

Remember how upset we all were about Bush's signing statements? Well, same thing.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
15. Very true,
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 04:10 PM
Nov 2014

and one of the results was that we ended up with a very different nation after Lincoln, with a very strong executive and centralized government. Again, depends on whose ox is being gored. The EO is wonderful, as long as the President is doing things we like. Once the shoe is on the other foot, not so much . . .

Imagine, with this as a precedent, the damage a Repug prez could do--bye-bye safety net, for one thing.

former9thward

(32,073 posts)
20. Actually it was not.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:31 PM
Nov 2014

Lincoln gave the EP as a military order in his capacity as commander in chief. That is why it only applied to slaves in confederate areas. Slaves in union areas (about one million) were not freed.

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
12. Ted Cruz liked it.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:57 PM
Nov 2014

If I managed a show and someone wrote something with a political theme that Ted Cruz liked, people would be fucking fired.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
17. I wish I could find the skit in which Will Ferrall is Bush, right after ...
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 04:26 PM
Nov 2014

... the election with Gore.

It was the week where no one was sure who won.

SNL did two openings, one with Bush as President, one with Al Gore as President.

In the Bush version ... DC is on fire, the country is a wreck, and its only been two weeks. Bush is saying we need to kill all the Ostriches. Cheney was killed in a hunting accident.

In the Gore version ... Bill Clinton is sleeping on the couch, and won't leave. And I think Gore has invented a new energy source.

The Bush opening nails the Bush Presidency, absolutely dead on, before it ever happens. Sadly, I can't find it on-line. It should be used in history books.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
19. here ya go
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:18 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:56 PM - Edit history (1)

https://screen.yahoo.com/glimpse-possible-future-ii-000000670.html Sorry I thought they all would of been there mad: The skits were called A glimpse of our possible future. Found some but they were scrubbed. The date was 11/04/00 with Charlize Theron and Paul Simon. here's a run down of the show.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/00/00d.phtml

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
23. That seems to be only the Ralph Nader part.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:13 PM
Nov 2014

Pigs flying ... hell is frozen over.

I can't believe the other parts of that are gone!!

ugh.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
25. Yes I thought it would include
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:29 PM
Nov 2014

the other skits. I checked Hulu and Netflix and no go. HMMM how strange, is this some sort of conspiracy? LOL!

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
41. I did too
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:05 AM
Nov 2014

Of course I think in our hyper-politicized country we won't like this EO if in the future there is a Republican president that does something similar. As a poster said upthread, it all depends on whose ox is being gored. We are happy right now, three years from now, when a President Cruz or President Paul or some other whackjob signs an EO stopping the collection of certain taxes, or signs an EO that deals with the Dept. of Health and Human Services funding we will be less pleased.

former9thward

(32,073 posts)
21. Humor is humor.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:35 PM
Nov 2014

The sketch was funny. You must be unduly partisan if you can only find humor in one point of view.

sketchy

(458 posts)
22. Things that are not true are usually not as funny
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:42 PM
Nov 2014

This was not true.

No slur against the performers is intended, because they are truly funny people. It's their material that's objectionable here.


Tina Fey (whose humor I greatly admire), said this in a recent episode of Finding Your Roots:

"I always felt like my job was to sort of just discern, 'OK, how do I see this issue?' and try to write a joke that is a form of telling the truth about what I see. And that’s just the basic thing of a great joke. Just saying something that everyone, when they hear it, they go, 'Ah, that’s true. And I haven’t thought of it that way before.'"

jillan

(39,451 posts)
28. Parody is finding the humor based on truth. This was just a bunch of lies.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:40 PM
Nov 2014

I was really shocked when I watched it because there were probably people in the audience, and at home, that think that skit was true.

ctaylors6

(693 posts)
26. I thought it said Rs might create an immigration bill some day
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 07:40 PM
Nov 2014

Did I hear it wrong? I'm not good at catching every word, but I watched it a few times. Sounded like Keenan said "I’m an immigration bill and one day the Rs might create me so I can become a law"
I took away that they were comparing the bill process (from Schoolhouse Rock) to the executive order process.
I'm sorry if I missed something.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
29. I watched it and all I could think was that Lorne Michaels started watching faux.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:42 PM
Nov 2014

Because that was a parody on faux talking points.

Cha

(297,598 posts)
30. WTF Moment.. The Mayor of NYC likes what the President is doing on Immigration because
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:44 PM
Nov 2014
John Boehner Won't Bring it to a Vote!


Bill de Blasio Heavy check mark @BilldeBlasio
Follow
Thanks to President @BarackObama, more than 100,000 NYC parents could stay with their children. #ImmigrationAction
5:10 AM - 22 Nov 2014 118 Retweets 85 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/11/22/a-tweet-or-two-174/

Mahalo for your OP, Peregrine Took

lynne

(3,118 posts)
44. I thought it was well done and funny, too
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:14 AM
Nov 2014

SNL has had a lot of misses but I liked that skit. I also liked the one about the egg incubator but I'm into chickens. Loved how poor "Bill" kept bouncing down those steps!

Comedy and late night shows take pot-shots on both sides of the political aisles no matter who's in office. There's a lot of humor in politics so SNL skits won't be going away anytime soon. Might as well enjoy them!

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
45. I thought it was funny.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:30 AM
Nov 2014

I think we can laugh at ourselves sometimes, and this is one case where we should. It's laughable that President Obama had to resort to a massive executive order since Congress can't get anything done.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
46. I thought the guy who played the bill sung the song pretty damn good
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:02 AM
Nov 2014

I think you take it too personally. It is suppose to be humor, not the truth. They are spoofing a very good short that was used back in the day by ABC.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
47. I don't get people thinking it was funny.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:15 AM
Nov 2014

There wasn't a single laugh in the whole sketch, regardless of its political point-of-view. That fact is really remarkable, since it featured Kenan Thompson, one of the few performers on the show in the last few years who is consistently funny.

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