Did You See What Chuck Schumer Had To Say About ACA? - A Mistake?......

[global1]

Here's a link to the Reuter's article on Schumer's comments:

Top Democrat says Obama focus on healthcare in 2009 was mistake

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/26/us-usa-congress-democrats-idUSKCN0J92C820141126


&quot Reuters) - A top U.S. Senate Democrat said on Tuesday that President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats made a major political blunder in 2009 when they chose to focus on healthcare reform instead of concentrating on fixing the economy."

I've lost respect for this guy.

[still_one]

1. I will remember these quotes when the DNC calls me asking for a donation. As far as I am concerned

he isn't a "top democrat" in my book, and after this, he is on the bottom of the heap

[Hoyt]

2. I don't think he said the ACA itself was a mitake, just the timing considering

economic issues at time. I think we were working on economic issues, just not getting any help from the conservatives. I'm glad we got what we did, wish it could have been more.

[LawDeeDah]

11. Obama tried pushing jobs bills through, for infrastructure for one, for a long time

and the knuckleheads in congress wouldn't go along.

So, Chuckie, fuck ya. With a rusty chain saw you useless backstabbing large asshole.

[newblewtoo]

15. I must be the most

naïve person in the world. I really thought those shovel ready jobs would be repairing the crumbling infrastructure of the Federal Highway System. Who knew it was shoveling cash to Wall Street Banksters. We could have had good union jobs, safe roads, and, bridges. A WPA program to jump start the middle class. Schumer makes a good point but it is like mom always said, some things should never be said beyond the family dinner table. We had a virtual lock on Congress which was gambled away with the Affordable Care Act.

[Ykcutnek]

3. Fuck you, Chuck. nt

[BeyondGeography]

4. What economy-fixing master strokes were prevented by ACA?

It's not like it prevented any of the Wall St. handouts that Schumer specializes in.

[PoliticAverse]

5. "The Senator from Wall Street" thought there should have been more bailouts?... n/t

[Wellstone ruled]

6. Chuckie likes his Banker Buds and the folks from

Met Life. You looking at the next Senate Minority Leader after the New Year. Let the Triangulation begin.

[spanone]

7. schumer is the consumate politician....always look out for your own ass.

fuckachuck

[Johonny]

8. But they did do stuff for the economy. I don't get it.

It would be nice if they did more to keep the economy going but since the American voter so seldom has the wisdom to give a democratic president a functioning legislature fro more than 2 years.

I'm not sure more than Frank-Dodd, unemployment benefits, food stamps and the spending they did get passed would have worked anyways. Republicans were cutting spending of the state level to counter act most Federal efforts anyways. It's not like they did nothing economically those 2 years. It was a nice 2 year run they had. I'd trade that for 1000 years of what we got now.

[bigdarryl]

9. I'm sick of these corporate democrats running away from the President

What we progressives need is to find at least two billionaires to start recruiting and funding progressive candidates to run against people like him McCaskill Pelosi in the primaries to turn this party from the right to the left

[LawDeeDah]

10. fuck him. He's doing this for 'distance from Obama' Hillary.

Hey Chuckie, you never have to worry about health coverage, do you, you stinking pig

[LWolf]

12. I disagree.

Focusing on the ACA instead of health care was the mistake.

Allowing the whole circus to be about insurance, instead of health care, was a mistake.

A universal, national health CARE program, free and point of service and funded 100% by taxes, would have solved the health CARE crisis AND helped the economy while we were at it.

That and a stimulus package that focused on labor and JOBS at home...a WPA-style program, rather than bailouts for all those "too big to fail" would have been the right thing to do.

Any conversation about the straits the Democratic Party finds itself in should acknowledge that and move forward determined not to repeat the same errors again.

[zipplewrath]

13. Bingo

Every issue, every program, every activity should have been directly connected to jobs and the economy for the middle/lower classes. They made ACA be about saving the government money, not about saving jobs and freeing up the economy, both of which it could have done if it had been health CARE reform.

[LawDeeDah]

14. Can you name any country that got universal HC first try?

I don't think there are any, but I certainly can be wrong.
These things take Years of struggle to end up as single payer.

[LWolf]

16. Nope.

I can say that, according to this source, the U.S. stands almost entirely alone among developed nations that lack universal health care.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/heres-a-map-of-the-countries-that-provide-universal-health-care-americas-still-not-on-it/259153/

I can say that those nations that DO have universal health care of some sort have had it for at least 20 years for the latest comers, and many have had some sort of socialized medicine for close to a century, and some, like Canada for much longer.

I'm sure some of those countries had some sort of struggle along the way. For whatever reasons: a populace more compassionate, less greedy, less arrogant, more intelligent, or some other reason, they seem to have gotten the job done while the U.S. is still limiting care to those who can pay their premiums, and then still have something left for their copays and deductibles.