One thing I've noticed about police misconduct cases...

[Archae]

The victim will sue the police, but the city or county those cops are based in? They pay the judgments, out of taxpayer money.

If corrupt cops and their union had to pay those judgments, the numbers of police misconduct cases would drop like a rock.

[cpamomfromtexas]

1. Exactly and that is why the "color of law" statutes are similar to piercing corporate veil

The key is showing malicious intent of the cop and of course you have to pray the judge hasn't been bought off

[Dr. Xavier]

2. Wait until you hear about my case

I am currently representing a young man, who was shot and paralyzed by two of San Francisco 'finest' in April of 2013. The officers involved were recently awarded a Silver Medal of Honor, in spite of the fact that the SF DA's Office hasn't finished its investigation. The story will appear in the San Francisco Examiner next week, I will post a link once it appears. This leaves me with a couple of different legal options; I won't go into details now but if they work, it will be beautiful.

Until then: Happy Thanksgiving!

[cpamomfromtexas]

4. Please let us know about it after execution or pm me

I'll tell you what happened to a friend of mine

[Enthusiast]

3. Why should the union be more responsible for a violent, unwarranted police action than the city?

The city and county are responsible for hiring these unfit individuals. The city and county are responsible for training the errant individual. Why would you single out the union? Are you just a bit anti-union?

[cpamomfromtexas]

5. The union should "police" its own because they will have to defend the idiots that screw up

[Enthusiast]

6. Really? The union should weed out the bad guys? How absurd.

Management brings actions against errant cops, not the union. I believe you have it ass backwards.

Through what mechanism would the union "police" their own? Oh, you're just going to invent one?

Maybe the city and county should be a little more selective when they hire these idiots. Maybe the city should re evaluate their training methods.

[msongs]

8. police unions "police their own" by covering for criminal cops nt

[Enthusiast]

11. So you are anti-union?

[99th_Monkey]

21. When a union is used to try to obstruct justice when police murder black children

Then I would be "against" that union doing such thing, yes.

[bluedigger]

9. I don't think archae's anti union.

Maybe he hasn't thought this one through enough, but it's cool to look for solutions to poor oversight of police.

[Enthusiast]

12. Traditionally it is management (City-State-County), the employer,

that brings charges against errant employees.

Why should the union be punished? This notion is wrong headed.

[99th_Monkey]

10. If settlement$ were paid out of Police Retirement Funds

This shit would stop overnight, as other cops (the "good cops?&quot would abhor
having to pay for this shit out of their retirement and would totally pressure
the bad cops to get right with the law, and to stop murdering citizens in cold
blood.

[Enthusiast]

14. That would establish an interesting precedent.

I guess we might as well outlaw all unions and collective bargaining.

[99th_Monkey]

15. Cops abuse "unionization" by using it to protect their murderous asses nt

[Enthusiast]

16. So, if I understand you correctly, you are against "unionization".

You think the union was the reason Darren Wilson was not indicted?

I believe the reason was due to questionable practices by county prosecutor Robert McCulloch. The union didn't have a thing to do with it.

Do you happen to be from a "right to work state"? I just wonder how much anti-labor propaganda you have been subjected to.

[99th_Monkey]

20. You are the one who started talking about unions

My post was about retirement funds being tapped to pay for settlements to victims of "bad cops".

You then immediately jump to erroneous conclusion that I'm against collective bargaining and unions.

I have no idea by what process police pension funs are collected and invested, but regardless of
if it's by the municipality or the union, I still stand by my original post.

I live in Oregon fyi, and am most certainly not "anti-union" by any stretch of the imagination.

[Enthusiast]

13. Completely unrecommended.

[Oktober]

17. Unions are awesome except when they are inconvenient it seems...

[joshcryer]

18. Union buster!

It's obviously in a unions interest to support those that they support.

The problem stems from low IQ hires (a real thing, btw, search for it) and a low judicial standard for corrupt cops.

Unfortunately, police unions, because of the self interest that is natural for a union, aren't willing to support reforms. We have similar things in other unions, but I won't name them. OK, I'll name one, the Hollywood pro-SOPA/PIPA unions. There are others, but the further you delve, the more likely you'll get hate speech or hides here.

In summation, unions look out for their own. Everyone else and society be damned.

[True Blue Door]

19. We allow it, we pay. Price of citizenship.

Sticking law-abiding, working-class police officers with the bill because their superiors are douchebags who hired other douchebags would be misguided.