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shenmue

(38,506 posts)
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:51 PM Nov 2014

"Tea Party Leader Claims to be Plotting a Military Coup"

http://www.irehr.org/issue-areas/tea-party-nationalism/tea-party-news-and-analysis/622-tea-party-leader-claims-to-be-plotting-a-military-coup

From the article:

In a November 22 email, Steve Eichler, the executive director of the national Tea Party faction, the 1776 Tea Party, tried to terrify supporters into opening up their wallets with a tale of how cuts to military spending were part of diabolical conspiracy by President Obama to bring about Martial law in the United States.
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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. If I wanted to institute military rule, my first step would be to shrink the military
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:57 PM
Nov 2014

Makes perfect sense!

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
2. How can he state this. Isn't that like a very serious offense? It sounds like he's
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:58 PM
Nov 2014

trying to incite a rebellion or something. That's some pretty serious stuff he's saying. I imagine this guy is being watched pretty carefully.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
3. Yep
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:59 PM
Nov 2014

Hope he gets a talking-to from the FBI or Secret Service. Threats are not protected by the First Amendment.

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
5. 18 U.S. Code Chapter 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:12 PM
Nov 2014
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

18 U.S. Code § 2387 - Activities affecting armed forces generally


(a) Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:
(1) advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or
(2) distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
(b) For the purposes of this section, the term “military or naval forces of the United States” includes the Army of the United States, the Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve of the United States; and, when any merchant vessel is commissioned in the Navy or is in the service of the Army or the Navy, includes the master, officers, and crew of such vessel.

I think this speaks for itself

Response to shenmue (Original post)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. No doubt these dangerous groups feel empowered after seeing the way the authorities
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:22 PM
Nov 2014

fled Clive Bundy's Ranch.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. What do you expect.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 04:50 PM
Nov 2014

When this administration was constituted in 2009,I think they knew that there was going to be threats from the rigties. And,the treats coming out of various Neo-Con run agencies,that tended to feel threatened by this new African American Liberal Senator who never served in the Military. Have talked to many retired Military,and to a person,they carried some type of dislike for Mr. Obama and very harsh comments mostly plain racist hate. There was a article back in 2010 about an interview with Mr. Obama and the bottom line was he and Holder were very concerned by some possible physical action from certain Government Agency It seemed to refer to JFK and MLK.

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