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Sat Nov 29, 2014, 03:47 PM

 

the bizarre compulsion of black men to reach for their waistbands

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/28/the-bizarre-compulsion-of-black-men-to-reach-for-their-waistbands/
by JOHN ESKOW
If police accounts are to be believed, there is a bizarre urge among young, unarmed black men to provoke their own murder by “reaching for their waistbands” when cops are aiming service revolvers at them.

Just this week we heard Officer Darren Wilson claim that one of the reasons he killed Michael Brown was that the young man “reached for his waistband,” and–in what I guess was just an incredibly weird coincidence–we heard Cleveland police claim they killed a 12-year-old kid with a toy gun because he also “reached for his waistband.”

But this odd compulsion is not a new one.  In 2011, fully half of all the young black men shot by LA cops were cut down because–again, if police accounts are to be believed–they too were “reaching for their waistbands.”  The epidemic also spread to Houston, where multiple police accounts cite the same excuse.  Oscar Grant, the young man killed by Oakland cops on a subway platform–and the subject of the movie “Fruitvale Station”–was shot for the exact same reason.

If police accounts are to be believed, this compulsion only exists among young black men.  I have been approached by angry or frustrated cops several times in my life–twice as an angry young protestor, eager to defy them– and have never felt even the slightest urge to reach for my waistband.  Maybe white skin contains a protein that protects against this terrible compulsion?

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marym625 Nov 2014 #2
TBF Nov 2014 #17
marym625 Nov 2014 #18
William769 Nov 2014 #3
WinkyDink Nov 2014 #4
gollygee Nov 2014 #5
uppityperson Nov 2014 #6
Downwinder Nov 2014 #7
treestar Nov 2014 #8
5X Nov 2014 #9
Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #10
logosoco Nov 2014 #11
amandabeech Nov 2014 #12
DesertDiamond Nov 2014 #13
CatWoman Nov 2014 #14
spinbaby Nov 2014 #16
The Wizard Nov 2014 #15

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 03:58 PM

2. Oscar Grant?

He was cuffed, hands behind back on his stomach. Or is that why they said they pulled him from the train?

It does seem to be epidemic, reaching for waistband

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Response to marym625 (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 01:56 PM

17. I first wrote about Oscar ages ago -

and you have to read pretty far into the wiki article to get to the "reaching for the waistband" quote but it's there. Granted he was already face down on the floor of the train but whatever ... I think it is their standard line - http://journals.democraticunderground.com/TBF/23

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Response to TBF (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 02:05 PM

18. Thank you

I read a great deal about this when it happened and watched the movie, which seems to be pretty accurate, and either didn't notice or didn't remember that.

Thanks again

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:00 PM

3. Kick & recommend.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:00 PM

4. Ah, yes, the latest transgression: RFWWB.

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:02 PM

5. Funny how many unarmed African American men reach for their waistbands

when there's nothing there.

K&R

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:03 PM

6. k&r and wondering why waistbands of black men and boys are so much scarier

This has gone on far too long. I am going to take my own mixed-race son to a neurologist today, if not sooner, to have him checked for traces of this horrible Waistband-Reaching Syndrome. I’m concerned that, one day, it could get him killed…

…if police accounts are to be believed.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:03 PM

7. Well, I don't know about black boys. But, my Mom was always

after us to "Pull your pants up and tuck your shirt in." so that 60 years later I am still conscious of whether my shirt is tucked in.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:06 PM

8. Even when they have no gun

making it a true compulsion.

The part where they try to grab the gun from the cop then becomes even more interesting. Why'd they have to do that when they already had their own weapon in their waistband? Wilson is so dumb he did not realize he should not have added that detail. Didn't he already know there was no gun by the fact that Michael tried to get his?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:37 PM

9. For one thing, there is no such thing as a service revolver any more....

they all have semi-auto glocks.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:56 PM

10. It's likely an explanation they've passed around for years and years.

 

Probably happened once, a long time ago, for real,
and it turned out there was a gun, and in the inquiry
they learned that the bad guy was reaching into his waistband.

"Just say he was reaching into his waistband," they whisper
in the bad police locker room, whenever a buddy shoots somebody.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 04:57 PM

11. First everyone complains that they wear their pants too low,

then they get suspicious when they try to pull up their pants!

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Response to logosoco (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 05:02 PM

12. I'm getting old.

 

The appeal of the low pants/show your boxers style is beyond me.

That said, in one of the photos of the Ferguson protesters at some point along the line, there was a young man with navy boxers with a white waist band and white stars and jeans held just below the buttocks with a bright red belt. Very patriotic! I kid you not!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 05:53 PM

13. Reminds me of a cop on Law and Order who once sneered the line "the all-purpose two black guys with

guns."

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 06:20 PM

14. Al Bundy



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Response to CatWoman (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 06:29 PM

16. LOL!

This is one of those times I wish DU had a "like" button.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 06:29 PM

15. Stop going for my gun

stop resisting. The magic words that precede police brutality.

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