Question: Wilson ADMITS Brown ran away...

[uponit7771]

... at the second Brown ran away how in the fuck was he still a threat to Wilson after that?


I've been trying to read something on it for a couple of days....


asking myself .. if I'm STILL a threat while running away black.. then... will I always be a threat just breathing and standing still...


18 of the 20 witness's say Brown had his hands up before he was murdered... 1 of the 2 that differed was a white supremacist...



Just ....


fuckin sick ..man

[Socal31]

1. His story was he was then charged from a mile away...

Until the head-shot which was closer.

I'm not validating that narrative, but if that was the case, that answers the legality question. Again, I'm only answering your posed question in a technical manner.

[uponit7771]

3. so did Wilson run after Brown? If so I missed that part... the GJ testimoney has brought out a lot

... why isn't the feds involved in this murder...

Seems like the 18 of 20 witness's claiming Brown had his hands up is enough to throw wilson in the slammer

[Socal31]

4. According to his interview, he felt obligated to give chase.

Police obviously have no duty to retreat, and constantly escalate force application well above what civilian standards allow (Zimmerman is an out lier).

Wilson could have just as easily decided to temporarily de-escalate the situation, but that didn't happen.

[uponit7771]

5. ah... so, like z, he put himself in a situation where he'd could be more threatened than if he would

... have just sat tight and called for back up...

Then he killed someone...

fuckin wow

[XemaSab]

6. Why did he leave the car to give chase?

Seems like he could have stayed in the car and driven after MB.

[Socal31]

8. My guess is adrenaline, combined with a hero complex...

And a dash of hurt pride. He should have been fired for having such poor awareness and firearm handling ability that Brown actually prevented the first two shots with his hands.

[PsychGrad]

11. Yeah

I think we all know why he did this - but he says, in his testimony, that he felt that Mike Brown was a threat to the other folks around the area - you know, that same area that he was slinging bullets into like a maniac.

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. What was he going to do....pelt them with Swisher Sweets?

[PsychGrad]

31. Well,

Maybe I guess - but I tend to think that would be less lethal than the bullets that Wilson was slinging into the apartment buildings around them.

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. I agree...people trying to justify what Darren Wilson did are so amusing in their line of reasoning!

I have been pointing this out to rightwingers on FB for a week now...

[R B Garr]

19. Probably couldn't get as good of a head shot if he stayed

safe in the car. That and all the shots fired makes it clear he needed Michael dead as someone else noted -- so that he could not tell his side of the story.

[ReRe]

26. Did you notice the angle that he stopped his...

... SUV cruiser? He shot the first 5-6 shots from inside his car while Michael and his friend ran away, took a moment to get out of the car, and by that time, Michael had turned around and was headed back towards him with his hands up (his friend had ducked down behind a car when Wilson started shooting inside his car.) All this happened in the blink of an eye almost. Then he put the last 6 shots into the front of Michael. 2 in the arm, 2 in the chest and the last two at his head as Michael fell. My theory. Lined up with the tape of the shots on the recording.

[BeanMusical]

22. Because psychopath.

[toddwv]

18. He fired at Brown while Brown was running away.

Apparently he missed, but it's clear that he fired shots at his back.

[Socal31]

21. That may have happened....

But unless it's on video, it would be difficult to say missed shots are clear.

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. Which proves the "suspect" was running away....if he hadn't continued to shoot at

someone more than 100 ft away .....much too far away for Wilson's accuracy this could have all been avoided...I believe Brown stopped and turned toward him to allow himself to be arrested because the officer was shooting at he and his friend......mistakenly thinking the officer wanted him to come closer to be arrested he walked toward him....so Wilson took that opportunity to shoot him down to the ground....

[jmowreader]

13. He was then charged from a mile away? I hadn't heard that one before

Okay, let's play with that for a second. Let us pretend Mr. Brown was in good shape and could run a mile in seven and a half minutes., and that Mr. Brown was running toward Officer Wilson at full speed.

Seven and a half minutes is more than enough time for Darren Wilson, Ferguson's stalwart defender of Truth, Justice and the American Way, to get in his car, roll up the windows, lock the doors, start the engine and drive away before the scary black man could get there to kick his ass, offer him a cheap cigar, or whatever in hell he intended to do when he got there.

[Socal31]

14. I may have used a bit of hyperbole in my estimate....

But I appreciate your follow through!

It was 30-40 ft when he started opening fire again after the chase, which would put me in jail were I to engage at that range in defense of my home. Not solely due to distance, however. The fact that he was unarmed and of similar size would make it very tough for a CA DA to not prosecute.

But I digress...

[jmowreader]

15. Thirty to forty feet is still pretty fucking far

[Socal31]

17. Outside?

Absolutely. I was amazed when he stated the range in his TV interview.

[elleng]

2. Exactly, sick.

[99th_Monkey]

7. Wilson "felt like a 5 year old struggling with Hulk Hogan"

Any damn fool, idiotic non-"explanation" will do apparently, when a white cop
wants to murder a young black male.

[uponit7771]

9. Yeap, then Brown is seen as a "demon"... Wilson is one of the bad ones...

[Dan de Lyons]

10. Dead Men Tell No Tales

There is a history of bad cops grabbing somebody's hand and pulling their arm into the car so that they can say, "He went for my gun!" That could have happened here.

If so, when the victim broke away, the arm-puller would then have been at risk of exposure if the victim were to talk. That might have been the fear that led Wilson to run 150 feet before support arrived, and to kill, rather than to apprehend.

[PsychGrad]

12. I agree.

And this is pretty much the scenario that Dorian Johnson tells. I believe him. I think that is exactly what happened that day and Darren Wilson not only freaked out, but was pissed off that his authority was challenged at all.

[KingCharlemagne]

25. Do you have a link to that 'history' to which you refer? I don't disagree with you, just

would like to familiarize myself with the historical tradition.

Much obliged in advance.

[woolldog]

16. 1 of the witnesses is a white supremacist????

Who? Why haven't I heard this?

[Nevernose]

24. Number 40 has a racist diary entry

Submitted into evidence. It's obviously (and hilariously) complete bullshit, but the DA still felt the need to give it to the GJ.

[FuzzyRabbit]

20. will I always be a threat just breathing and standing still..." To many people, yes!

"asking myself .. if I'm STILL a threat while running away black.. then... will I always be a threat just breathing and standing still..."

YES! http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/african-american-man-stopped-by-michigan-cop-for-walking-with-his-hands-in-his-pockets/

[Curtis]

23. The part that did it for me

Is that while Wilson was sitting in the car on the driver's side, and, according to Wilson himself, Brown was able to strike Wilson on the right jaw just before the ear using his right hand. I just do not see how that is even close to physically possible.

Anyway, that's when I realized Wilson is a fucking liar. So, nothing else from him can even ring true.

[KingCharlemagne]

27. Read Johnson's testimony in Volume 4 of the Grand Jury transcript. It reads like the plain-spoken

American prose of a Steinbeck or Upton Sinclair (once one takes into consideration African American dialect) and has a clear ring of truth to it. If one believes Johnson's testimony, Wilson is a monster, a stone-cold killer.

[Curtis]

33. Yes

I read Johnson's testimony, and I do believe Wilson is a stone-cold killer.

[Cha]

30. Good F****** POint, uponit!